US gymnast Liukin done in by judge from Down Under

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BEIJING - Of all the strokes, sprints, holds and jabs of these Beijing Games, few, if any, have been more enchanting to watch than Nastia Liukin's uneven bars routine.

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GROW UP AMERICA

Sydney, Australia

#1 Aug 21, 2008
why are the americans pointing their finger at one austrlian judge when nastia's score must be consented by other judges before the final decision? all i see is that american have acted in a horribly irrational and childish manner and have made a huge thing out of something trivial. and as her dad said "waged a three year campaign against nastia...", this is actually no joke- he thinks the world goes around his daught.
plus why wasn't there an uproar from the americans when shawn johnson took the gold at the beam when clearly nastia did better? evidently because she is american and not from another country.
america, be a good sport and grow up from your nutshell.

Since: Aug 08

Kunming, China

#2 Aug 21, 2008
GROW UP AMERICA wrote:
why are the americans pointing their finger at one austrlian judge when nastia's score must be consented by other judges before the final decision? all i see is that american have acted in a horribly irrational and childish manner and have made a huge thing out of something trivial. and as her dad said "waged a three year campaign against nastia...", this is actually no joke- he thinks the world goes around his daught.
plus why wasn't there an uproar from the americans when shawn johnson took the gold at the beam when clearly nastia did better? evidently because she is american and not from another country.
america, be a good sport and grow up from your nutshell.
I cannot agree with you more. America has been ranking the first two in medal standing in the past 28 Olympics. This time they get a little more than half of China's total, so they are pissed. They cannot accept the truth that they have already fallen behind in many ways. The nation is full of self-conceited, presumptuous and arrogant people. This is while the nation dooms. American should learn to be modest and accept advantages from other countries, or they will continue to lose in more ways.
Jealous Aussies a shocker

Melbourne, Australia

#3 Aug 21, 2008
As an American living down Under, I am shocked at the blatant anti-American media coverage and negative tone written and covered by every Australian media source one can consume here. The Aussies are pretty two faced... they speak of a fair go and mateship, but that was their grandparents. Todays Aussies are NOT friends of Americans, are needlessly rude and their coverage of the Olympics is SHOCKING. It lacks the human interest stories from olympians the world over, as we see in most other first world countries... instead they only celebrate their own victories (which are on the decline) and skip most coverage of events they are not strong in. Its deplorable. Yanks wake up, these people are not the great mates they pretend to be. I love the country their parents and grandparents built, but 8 of 10 modern-day Aussies are bloody wankers. Massive case of sour grapes.
dfgpoihr

Sydney, Australia

#4 Aug 21, 2008
-what is `a fair go` to do with anything?
-how can you say we're rude when you've called us bloody wankers?
-who are you calling two-faced?
-talking about `negative tone`, wasn't it an american who wrote this article targetting helen and accusing the integrity of this sport?
-and what's sour grapes to do with this when its america against china?
-have you thought maybe all judges need to consent before reaching a final decision instead of just helen herself?
-how is our coverage of the olympics shocking when it is the american's whining and using vulgar language to attack helen that we keep hearing and seeing?
-how can you make the assumption that aussies are no friends of americans from this one thread?
-can you name an example of when we only celebrate our own victories without consideration of our weaknesses?
-your comment implies we only seek the flaws in others, but what about you?
again, a perfect exemplary of attacking australians without evidence.
raju

United States

#5 Aug 21, 2008
australians sucks .. convicts mentality and abusing the oceanic region.. they suck anyway.. cant help it low mentality
lol

Sydney, Australia

#6 Aug 21, 2008
speaking of `abusing`, who is saying a nation sucks?
and please use more sophisticated educated language to attack whom you ironically term `low mentality`. perhaps you should back up your reasons too instead of targetting australians without a touch of integrity or maturity.
at this rate, i can only roll my eyes and laugh at you but my pity for you restrains me.
kdd

Wasilla, AK

#7 Aug 21, 2008
Nobody complains after being beat fair and square. Many of the Chinese "women" gymists did not win or deserve the medals by were awarded. There was definantly so bias towards the host country. Why that is I cannot say I can only comment on the competion that I saw. And its not only American gymnists that were cheated. How can u completely blow a vault and the landing and still get a score high enough to get you a bronze?
eli

San Antonio, TX

#8 Aug 21, 2008
kdd wrote:
Nobody complains after being beat fair and square. Many of the Chinese "women" gymists did not win or deserve the medals by were awarded. There was definantly so bias towards the host country. Why that is I cannot say I can only comment on the competion that I saw. And its not only American gymnists that were cheated. How can u completely blow a vault and the landing and still get a score high enough to get you a bronze?
I totally agree...now that's where I get confused also. There are smart people over there so they will find a "fair" way to make her win. It's not just Americans who got screwed over. If it was proven that the US was screwing other countries out of the metals they deserved, I'd be ashamed.
MeanandNasty

Penrose, CO

#9 Aug 21, 2008
dfgpoihr wrote:
-what is `a fair go` to do with anything?
-how can you say we're rude when you've called us bloody wankers?
-who are you calling two-faced?
-talking about `negative tone`, wasn't it an american who wrote this article targetting helen and accusing the integrity of this sport?
-and what's sour grapes to do with this when its america against china?
-have you thought maybe all judges need to consent before reaching a final decision instead of just helen herself?
-how is our coverage of the olympics shocking when it is the american's whining and using vulgar language to attack helen that we keep hearing and seeing?
-how can you make the assumption that aussies are no friends of americans from this one thread?
-can you name an example of when we only celebrate our own victories without consideration of our weaknesses?
-your comment implies we only seek the flaws in others, but what about you?
again, a perfect exemplary of attacking australians without evidence.
I'm just curious. How do you feel about Americans? If you don't like them, do you differentiate between government figures most of us didn't want and didn't vote for, or the common American public?

I have always thought the Aussies were friends. What their government does cannot be controlled by the common people once that government is in power. Most time we vote to the best of our knowledge, but our leaders betray us (speaking for the U.S.).
dfgpoihr

Sydney, Australia

#10 Aug 22, 2008
to MeanandNasty : i don't quite understand how politics comes into this n why you thought my comment implied i didn't like americans. it is not true. all i was doing is replying to the person above me by the name of `Jealous Aussies a Shocker` who accused australians of gosh knows what n called us `bloody wankers`, and a whole lot of other insults which s/he seemed to bear themselves. i simply wanted to question.
i never not liked americans, its just i didn't like their sportsmanship in this particular case n the way they attacked helen (if you happened to watch the news) with hatemails. and simply, i replied to another hatemail with questions.
why how do you view australians?

Since: Aug 08

AOL

#11 Aug 22, 2008
People still go around talking about countries like they are an individual human being. Why? Grow Up America says "Why are the Americans pointing fingers...." What a stupid thing to say? Is there a big finger in the shape of the America pointing at someone? There are many many Americans who have no problems with the judging, many of the new anti-American Americans are glad America got less golds, and many don't care about gymnastics and don't even think it's a sport, and many just don't give a damn about the Olympics, and then of course you have those weirdos that don't think there should be Olympics.

People who watched the women's gymnastics were confused throughout. Is there a discussion about any of the other events besides boxing as far as unfair scoring that may have inhibited American athletes? Stop pretending like something is happening in an overall way and not exclusively about specific events. And only a couple of them. If you didn't watch the entire women's gymnastics then you just don't know.

Bob Costas said something about Bolt's showboating and people start saying "America" is jealous, even though the Belgian IOC president said it too and so did an ex-athlete from Trinidad. You antis are so obvious with your motives. You've got problems and these problems don't have anything to do with the Olympics, it has to do with America.
MJO

Seven Hills, Australia

#12 Aug 22, 2008
Jealous Aussies a shocker wrote:
As an American living down Under, I am shocked at the blatant anti-American media coverage and negative tone written and covered by every Australian media source one can consume here. The Aussies are pretty two faced... they speak of a fair go and mateship, but that was their grandparents. Todays Aussies are NOT friends of Americans, are needlessly rude and their coverage of the Olympics is SHOCKING. It lacks the human interest stories from olympians the world over, as we see in most other first world countries... instead they only celebrate their own victories (which are on the decline) and skip most coverage of events they are not strong in. Its deplorable. Yanks wake up, these people are not the great mates they pretend to be. I love the country their parents and grandparents built, but 8 of 10 modern-day Aussies are bloody wankers. Massive case of sour grapes.
Go Home Yank. My fair go, give a bloke a go grandparents would not want you here. You people have started all this as trouble and inuendo as you do for all world issues. Can't you see that it is not only Australia who has had enough. As for the forum issue. There were six judges on that panel. The highest and lowest score comes out, so how can Helen rob you of your precious gold?
Jealous Aussies a shocker

Melbourne, Australia

#13 Aug 22, 2008
MJO wrote:
<quoted text>Go Home Yank. My fair go, give a bloke a go grandparents would not want you here. You people have started all this as trouble and inuendo as you do for all world issues. Can't you see that it is not only Australia who has had enough. As for the forum issue. There were six judges on that panel. The highest and lowest score comes out, so how can Helen rob you of your precious gold?
Youll have to tell me which world issues you are referring to, as at last check Australia was right there side by side with America, from Afghanistan and Iraq to Darfur and Kyoto targets (Kevin's empthy rhetoric and symbolism doesnt count until he does something). The issue being discussed here is cheating. But I beleive the Asutralian reation to the outcry against the bias noted with antagonistic remarks resembles unounded nationalistic chest thumping and needed to be addressed, long overdue. I'll be moving on soon enough, with my Australian wife and little girl. We will miss Australia and a few of your people, but probably wont return. This move was never permanent, and despite a lot of positives I wont miss attitudes like yours, which are surprisingly common down under. Thanks for confirming any lingering confusion this panel may have had. Our forefathers who gave their lives in WWII pushing back Japan from the South Pacific are probably rolling in their graves. Shame to people who speak like you.

One request though... please encourage your countrymen to put their money where their mouth is and end the great alliance with the US that your wise grandparents built... do it now... block trade with the US, cut all importation of US Culture form your media and entertainment, join the ranks of others who have done so like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and North Korea. You could all form a trading block, and share your newfound values accodingly.

Alternatively, simply continue to wear another face when we welcome your people with open arms to our country, when we create jobs here and opportunity with Free Access to our marketplace, and when we welcome your Prime Minister with Diplomatic Accolades the likes of Kevin-07's last visit a few short months ago. Sure would be interesting to see what Australia would look like 12 months afterward... wouldnt that be great!??

Good Luck with that.

"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

-Albert Einstein, Citizen of the USA by choice

Since: Aug 08

AOL

#14 Aug 22, 2008
Jealous Aussies a shocker wrote:
<quoted text>
Youll have to tell me which world issues you are referring to, as at last check Australia was right there side by side with America, from Afghanistan and Iraq to Darfur and Kyoto targets (Kevin's empthy rhetoric and symbolism doesnt count until he does something). The issue being discussed here is cheating. But I beleive the Asutralian reation to the outcry against the bias noted with antagonistic remarks resembles unounded nationalistic chest thumping and needed to be addressed, long overdue. I'll be moving on soon enough, with my Australian wife and little girl. We will miss Australia and a few of your people, but probably wont return. This move was never permanent, and despite a lot of positives I wont miss attitudes like yours, which are surprisingly common down under. Thanks for confirming any lingering confusion this panel may have had. Our forefathers who gave their lives in WWII pushing back Japan from the South Pacific are probably rolling in their graves. Shame to people who speak like you.
One request though... please encourage your countrymen to put their money where their mouth is and end the great alliance with the US that your wise grandparents built... do it now... block trade with the US, cut all importation of US Culture form your media and entertainment, join the ranks of others who have done so like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and North Korea. You could all form a trading block, and share your newfound values accodingly.
Alternatively, simply continue to wear another face when we welcome your people with open arms to our country, when we create jobs here and opportunity with Free Access to our marketplace, and when we welcome your Prime Minister with Diplomatic Accolades the likes of Kevin-07's last visit a few short months ago. Sure would be interesting to see what Australia would look like 12 months afterward... wouldnt that be great!??
Good Luck with that.
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
-Albert Einstein, Citizen of the USA by choice
I was a bit confused about all the Australian comments in the Olympic forums. I keep hearing accusations against America, yet everyone of them can easily be looked up and shown that Australia is right there with them. Didn't the Aussie government just blatantly admit they participate in wars for resources? Sounds like someone is trying to distract from something by constantly ridiculing others. Their is a lot of hate going on there it seems and too much energy focused on America when they have just as many of their own problems.
Hello

Sydney, Australia

#15 Aug 24, 2008
I am a Chinese-Australia girl and I want to mention that perhaps the US are getting a bit too jealous and trying to make the "less-important" countries seem bad.
Mel

Lilyfield, Australia

#16 Aug 24, 2008
Jealous Aussies a shocker wrote:
As an American living down Under, I am shocked at the blatant anti-American media coverage and negative tone written and covered by every Australian media source one can consume here. The Aussies are pretty two faced... they speak of a fair go and mateship, but that was their grandparents. Todays Aussies are NOT friends of Americans, are needlessly rude and their coverage of the Olympics is SHOCKING. It lacks the human interest stories from olympians the world over, as we see in most other first world countries... instead they only celebrate their own victories (which are on the decline) and skip most coverage of events they are not strong in. Its deplorable. Yanks wake up, these people are not the great mates they pretend to be. I love the country their parents and grandparents built, but 8 of 10 modern-day Aussies are bloody wankers. Massive case of sour grapes.
Wow, I feel as if I have read this shit some place else...

HAHAHA
Mel

Lilyfield, Australia

#17 Aug 24, 2008
MeanandNasty wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just curious. How do you feel about Americans? If you don't like them, do you differentiate between government figures most of us didn't want and didn't vote for, or the common American public?
I have always thought the Aussies were friends. What their government does cannot be controlled by the common people once that government is in power. Most time we vote to the best of our knowledge, but our leaders betray us (speaking for the U.S.).
Just to get the facts straight...

Australia know there is alot more to America's idiocy other than Bush ok?
Mel

Lilyfield, Australia

#18 Aug 24, 2008
Hello wrote:
I am a Chinese-Australia girl and I want to mention that perhaps the US are getting a bit too jealous and trying to make the "less-important" countries seem bad.
Holy shit, I live like 10 minutes from you :O
Mel

Lilyfield, Australia

#19 Aug 24, 2008
Jealous Aussies a shocker wrote:
<quoted text>
Youll have to tell me which world issues you are referring to, as at last check Australia was right there side by side with America, from Afghanistan and Iraq to Darfur and Kyoto targets (Kevin's empthy rhetoric and symbolism doesnt count until he does something). The issue being discussed here is cheating. But I beleive the Asutralian reation to the outcry against the bias noted with antagonistic remarks resembles unounded nationalistic chest thumping and needed to be addressed, long overdue. I'll be moving on soon enough, with my Australian wife and little girl. We will miss Australia and a few of your people, but probably wont return. This move was never permanent, and despite a lot of positives I wont miss attitudes like yours, which are surprisingly common down under. Thanks for confirming any lingering confusion this panel may have had. Our forefathers who gave their lives in WWII pushing back Japan from the South Pacific are probably rolling in their graves. Shame to people who speak like you.
One request though... please encourage your countrymen to put their money where their mouth is and end the great alliance with the US that your wise grandparents built... do it now... block trade with the US, cut all importation of US Culture form your media and entertainment, join the ranks of others who have done so like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and North Korea. You could all form a trading block, and share your newfound values accodingly.
Alternatively, simply continue to wear another face when we welcome your people with open arms to our country, when we create jobs here and opportunity with Free Access to our marketplace, and when we welcome your Prime Minister with Diplomatic Accolades the likes of Kevin-07's last visit a few short months ago. Sure would be interesting to see what Australia would look like 12 months afterward... wouldnt that be great!??
Good Luck with that.
"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
-Albert Einstein, Citizen of the USA by choice
Poor girls, seriously.

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