Chinese swimmer, 16, stuns with fast ...

Chinese swimmer, 16, stuns with fast time

There are 43 comments on the WAPT-TV Jackson story from Jul 30, 2012, titled Chinese swimmer, 16, stuns with fast time. In it, WAPT-TV Jackson reports that:

When Chinese teenager Ye Shiwen dives into the pool on Monday, all eyes will be firmly on the clock to see if she can repeat her world-beating -- Ryan Lochte-beating -- time in the last 50 meters.

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whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#2 Jul 31, 2012
Judging by some of the crap they pulled with the gymnists and others over the years I wouldn't be surprised if there was somekind of doping her.

The Chinese also have alot of young athletes in their teens. So if you dope a teen in the off season wouldn't the extra hormones in a teenager's body disguise or mask extra hormones already in a teenagers body? Or if you dope a growing teen wouldn't be easier to pull them off a doping regime and let their raging hormones kick in?
whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#3 Jul 31, 2012
tid for tat

http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/olympi...

I'm sure alot of these athletes and teams have learned how to beat the system.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#4 Jul 31, 2012
retarded Americans need to shut the hell up...

its almost a given your half your track team is on juice at these 2012 games....

it is just that Americans are the best at masking their doping...(or hiding it.... see below)

the shock these days is the Chinese have become better at it then you loudmouths

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Lewis:'Who cares I failed drug test?'

Duncan Mackay
The Guardian, Thursday 24 April 2003 01.51

Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up, admitting he had tested positive for banned substances but claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes who were allowed to escape bans.

"There were hundreds of people getting off," he said. "Everyone was treated the same."

Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.

The admission is a further embarrassment for the United States Olympic Committee, which had initially denied claims that 114 positive tests between 1988 and 2000 were covered up. It will add weight to calls by leading anti-doping officials and top athletes for an independent inquiry into the US's record on drug issues.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/apr/24/a...
whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#5 Jul 31, 2012
New drug equals new test. New avoidance technique equals another new test. New regime needs a new test.

Most of these teams and athletes have doctors that see them regulary. Probably to see if they can beat a drug test. Fail for your doctor no big deal because it's doctor-patient confidentiality. Doctor tells you how to beat test.

I just think the metabolism and hormones of a teenage help mask alot of this stuff. Hence the Chinese Olympic team.
whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#6 Jul 31, 2012
She did it again tonight minus a world record. Did have an Olympic record. Even Costas said that Phelps broke records at 15 years old. Her form looks good riding high in the water. But it takes energy and strength to maintain that form. Saw she has large hands and feet just like Phelps. The way the Chinese select for the national team they probably look for stuff like this.

http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/swimmin...
Dan

Upton, NY

#7 Aug 1, 2012
whatsthatsmell wrote:
She did it again tonight minus a world record. Did have an Olympic record. Even Costas said that Phelps broke records at 15 years old. Her form looks good riding high in the water. But it takes energy and strength to maintain that form. Saw she has large hands and feet just like Phelps. The way the Chinese select for the national team they probably look for stuff like this.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/swimmin...
Her final 50m time (4th leg)in a 200m race was faster than the men's world record for the 50m. Come on are u kidding me!!!!!
Dan

Upton, NY

#8 Aug 1, 2012
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
retarded Americans need to shut the hell up...
its almost a given your half your track team is on juice at these 2012 games....
it is just that Americans are the best at masking their doping...(or hiding it.... see below)
the shock these days is the Chinese have become better at it then you loudmouths
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Lewis:'Who cares I failed drug test?'
Duncan Mackay
The Guardian, Thursday 24 April 2003 01.51
Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up, admitting he had tested positive for banned substances but claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes who were allowed to escape bans.
"There were hundreds of people getting off," he said. "Everyone was treated the same."
Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.
The admission is a further embarrassment for the United States Olympic Committee, which had initially denied claims that 114 positive tests between 1988 and 2000 were covered up. It will add weight to calls by leading anti-doping officials and top athletes for an independent inquiry into the US's record on drug issues.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/apr/24/a...
Somebody sounds like they still can't get over what's his name? Oh yeah that's right it was the steroid using Ben Johnson from Canada (Stanozlol I believe it was, right?)
Fishes

Mountain View, CA

#9 Aug 1, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Her final 50m time (4th leg)in a 200m race was faster than the men's world record for the 50m. Come on are u kidding me!!!!!
Wow... talk about a game of telephone.

It was her 50m split in the 400IM, not the 200IM that was unusually fast. Her 4th leg 50m split in the 200IM was 29.32. The women's world record is under 24 seconds (that's 5 second faster). Ye's last 50m in the 400m was 28.93. That's unusually fast... but again, several second slower than the world record for the women's 50m.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Netherlands

#10 Aug 1, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Somebody sounds like they still can't get over what's his name? Oh yeah that's right it was the steroid using Ben Johnson from Canada (Stanozlol I believe it was, right?)
dude im not the Americans being whiny

im perfectly aware... that there are many Cheaters using Juice...

and you Americans have been able to get away with it yet no one says anything until you get caught...

and thats the whole point of it... you dont hear the Chinese complain

hell they dont even complain when a person gets caught...

but loudmouth americans like you complain without proof...
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Netherlands

#11 Aug 1, 2012
btw as for Ben Johnson.... yes I was disappointed he cheated...

but then it was put to me way back then... that

the Americans were just better at masking their cheating...

eventually most if not all the sprinters in that 100 meter final were caught juicing

turns out 5 years later... Carl Lewis admitted he cheated...

yet your out here to single out one racer...

where there are people on the US Olympic team right now who were caught using and served out their bans...

Chinese should say Phelps was juicing up... old dude like him who only trained these last 2 years for these Olympics...
whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#12 Aug 1, 2012
The US coaches and experts need to tread lightly because their athletes might have been given or taken 'stuff' without their knowledge for plausable deniability.

I don't think the US is necessarily cheating more BUT lets face it in the US with money you can buy anything you want. You also have more choice meaning our athletes can doctor shop.

Until she's found guilty I'm giving her credit. Certain athletes truely understand their sport along with having passion. Say what you will but B Bonds understood baseball and the science of hitting. He also developed a nack for working out/sport medicine, he could read his body, he knew how far he did and could push it. I do think he used but setting that aside he knew his sport and body above and beyond.
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#13 Aug 1, 2012
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
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dude im not the Americans being whiny
im perfectly aware... that there are many Cheaters using Juice...
and you Americans have been able to get away with it yet no one says anything until you get caught...
and thats the whole point of it... you dont hear the Chinese complain
hell they dont even complain when a person gets caught...
but loudmouth americans like you complain without proof...
I see, you're still in possession of the worst people skills on Topix....born without a personality, eh?
Leeporter

Bangkok, Thailand

#14 Aug 1, 2012
I don't know about the others, but Phelps definitely on doping.
Olympian

San Francisco, CA

#15 Aug 1, 2012
Sebastien Coe did not recognized Michael Phelps as the greatest Olympian of all time because of videos showing him doing coke and other illegal drugs. It has also been rumored that he took performance enhancing drugs by many of his inner circle. Before we jumped on other people we need to shut up and let the testers do their job. Ye has been tested before the Olympic , before each race and after each race and chances she will be tested after the Olympics, all clean and negative. So she has been tested by the most advanced equipment and numerous times so let it be.
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#17 Aug 2, 2012
Really, videos doing coke? You mean your own?
whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#18 Aug 2, 2012
Olympian wrote:
Sebastien Coe did not recognized Michael Phelps as the greatest Olympian of all time because of videos showing him doing coke and other illegal drugs. It has also been rumored that he took performance enhancing drugs by many of his inner circle. Before we jumped on other people we need to shut up and let the testers do their job. Ye has been tested before the Olympic , before each race and after each race and chances she will be tested after the Olympics, all clean and negative. So she has been tested by the most advanced equipment and numerous times so let it be.
Not to get side tracked but... To obtain any ILLEGAL drug wether it's pot or steroids unless you have a doctor's script you have to deal with CRIMINALS or professional drug dealers. For Phelps to have to done pot or coke he would've have to been dealing or traveling with a CRIMINAL element. I'd venture to say if he had no problems getting pot or coke his dealer would've had no problems getting steroids or any other performance enhancer even if it was a 'special order'.

Also if one is willing to break the law and risk CRIMINAL penalties what is one willing to do with the rules of these swimming & athletic organizations. He could be banned for life but he still walks the streets as a free man with no criminal record.

The second any US swimmer under Phelps coaching or support staff gets banged for doping so will Phelps. But until there is any concrete evidence of doping for Phelps or Shewin I give them credit for their feats.
Skorchie

Blue Springs, MO

#19 Aug 2, 2012
Holy ignorance Batman! So there's no chance Phelps was at a party, or with some friends that happened to have a bag o' weed? Your post reeks of mis-information and assumptions that simply are not the way things are. As a former pot smoker during my early 20's, I can tell you that no, no one I ever bought illegal street drugs from, had any idea how to get PED's/Steroids, and the guys that did do 'roids, did not get them from their coke buddies. Also, I played HS and College baseball, and to be honest, I didn't partake during the season whatsoever, as I did have *some* respect for the sport. Not saying it's that way 100% of the time, but for you to make a blanket statement like that is just plain ignorant.

As for the rest of your post, whatsthatsmell, I agree with. If Phelps, or any athlete, performs well, there's no point making accusations until it's been proven something wrong was done. I mean, it's bad enough the Olympic Committee's basically accuse everyone of doping by testing before, during, and after every event.
whatsthatsmell

Bryn Mawr, PA

#20 Aug 2, 2012
Skorchie wrote:
Holy ignorance Batman! So there's no chance Phelps was at a party, or with some friends that happened to have a bag o' weed? Your post reeks of mis-information and assumptions that simply are not the way things are. As a former pot smoker during my early 20's, I can tell you that no, no one I ever bought illegal street drugs from, had any idea how to get PED's/Steroids, and the guys that did do 'roids, did not get them from their coke buddies. Also, I played HS and College baseball, and to be honest, I didn't partake during the season whatsoever, as I did have *some* respect for the sport. Not saying it's that way 100% of the time, but for you to make a blanket statement like that is just plain ignorant...
During my years in a gym I've known steroid users. The biggest user openly talked about his usage AND his biggest fear was getting arrested with his steroid dealer. Why because when the dealer opened the trunk to get him his 'stuff' he also noticed and was offered things like coke. His dealer/supplier did eventually get arrested for drug dealing(he still found and used them for a few years more). Also some of the biggest users in the gym at the time crashed and burned because of illegal drugs other than pot. This is one reason why Barry Bonds trainer remained silent for so long. It wasn't about loyalty it was about staying out jail because if he gave out or distributed steriods(illegal without a script) he was criminally distributing prescription drugs.

Different parts of the country stuff like pot and coke might be dealt differently. I can see diy growers selling some pot but if someone is getting the biggies like coke, crack, meth or pain pills they are or they are dealing with illegal street level crimal drug dealers.
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#21 Aug 2, 2012
He got caught, hitting a pot bong once.....yet, everyone feels the need to make it into something much worse.....that is an awful feature of human nature.....

Since: Jun 11

Bedford, UK

#22 Aug 2, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
He got caught, hitting a pot bong once.....yet, everyone feels the need to make it into something much worse.....that is an awful feature of human nature.....
Hi Go Blue you told me to watch the womens volleyball but the water polo is more revealing LOL!!

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