Anybody that calls themselves a Christian should know that they are saved FIRST and then comes the water baptism, if they choose. There is a difference between water baptism and being baptized in the Holy Spirit! Water baptism will not save you from Hell......period! That is stupid!<quoted text>
Yellow Dawg Democrat,
How can you say you are a long standing southern baptist & then turn around in another post & say you doubt seriously if Christ ever existed???
Now, I don't in anyway agree with the Baptists & their mis-interpretation of the bible - BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT ALL BAPTISTS AT LEAST BELIEVED IN CHRIST! Maybe, I've given Baptists more credit than they are due.
When you say you believe you know the plan of salvation (in light of your other remarks) I had to laugh. No, Dawg - you do NOT KNOW THE PLAN OF SALVATION - if you don't believe that you must be baptized in water (immerced in water) for the remision of your sins). You also do not know the plan of salvation if you believe you are saved before baptism...
I can't help wonder - if you're not thinking with a clear head. It also makes me wonder what's got your thinking processes so foggy & mixed up... Could it be something you drank or smoked...?