Who do you support for U.S. Senate in Missouri in 2010?

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<quoted text> ... Why do you think (in every instance) in the bible when a person was ready to accept the teachings of Christ, and wanted to be saved - the Apostles (or others) IMMEDIATELY BAPTIZED THEM???
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Now, in reference to the thief on the cross - WE MUST REMEMBER THAT WITH CHRIST - ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!! And, did it ever occur to you that Christ was not yet DEAD when he told the thief that "This day you will be with me in Paradice".
So, if Christ was not yet dead - the thief was not yet under the teachings of new covenant. However, it's quite possible the thief HAD BEEN BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION OF HIS SINS... No person who has ever lived knows for sure... But, it does appear the thief was familiar with Christ's teachings...
"in every instance" ... er ... er ... except for one.

We must remember: With apologists, all things are possible.
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Perfectly clear, "Norton"! You always fear the unknown rather than courageously seeking the truth!
"Courageously seeking the truth"??? You are talking about seeking the truth? Obama,you,and the liberals have no clue what the truth is anymore.This administration and truth have never met. IRS,Bhengazi,NSA,Immigration,F ast&Furious,ACORN,Manipula ted unemployment&Debt figures,Obamacare small print,etc. Give us a break Dawg!
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Hey, "Alumni," I am glad you are educating "Norton," who has his own short checklist.
Why, "Norton" says the only thing one has to do is believe!
Clearly, salvation is not "free"!
Salvation is "free"! All you have to do is accept the fact that Jesus died for your sins. Simple! In fact, it is so simple a lot of very smart people don't believe it. I can't think of anything more free than salvation because Jesus paid the price.
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Well, there you have it, "Norton"! Christianity is merely a Roman religion, derived from the former adolaters of Mithraism.
And your Messiah married Mary Magdellan, just like it says in the book "The Da Vinci Code." Mary Magdalene was clearly present at the "Last Supper," as painted by Da Vinci. Mary Magdalene is seated to the right of Jesus.
http://tinyurl.com/jw8pl8f
The Da Vinci Code is a bunch of bunk!

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Interesting wrote:
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I pop in from time to time to see what is happening on this thread. I believe the same way. I don't go to church much any more unless I am asked to share a talent. God is not only deemed to be in organized religion. God is in the visit to the nursing home and making a new friend who never gets visitors, buying v8 juice because he likes it, the early morning walk outside or late evening walk to appreciate nature, the expanding of my consciousness beyond the old and new testament. And truthfully, I have become a little ticked that someone else thinks that they can determine what should and should not have been put in the bible. My mother married into a catholic family. At one point, she asked the priest about a passage in the bible. He told her not to be concerned about it because she wouldn't understand it. He picked the wrong woman to say that to. She told him off and researched it herself. She was a very obstinate woman and I am turning out just like her. I don't appreciate the guilt of church members telling me I need to come more often. I don't need to. I'm perfectly content discovering the Universal Consciousness of the Cosmos on my own all day long rather than 45 minutes on Sunday morning. Reiki and meditation are awesome.
Norton has no knowledge of history....he doesn't want to know the truth...

Other wise he would understand the enigma of the Magi showing up at the birth of Christ or has he ever heard of the SIBYLLINE ORACLES or their prophesies...

It's just Nortons version of WMDs!!!
Norton"has eyes but cannot see and ears but cannot hear"
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1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
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Norton,
All I know is what the bible commands us to do. The bible also tells us to "lean not upon our own understanding". Now, would a person really want to take the CHANCE on their soul's salvation - because they personally don't believe a person has to be baptised to be saved?? The stakes are VERY HIGH here. And personally, I choose to obey what the bible tells us to do rather than "lean upon my own understanding".
Why do you think (in every instance) in the bible when a person was ready to accept the teachings of Christ, and wanted to be saved - the Apostles (or others) IMMEDIATELY BAPTIZED THEM???
Yes, when you are repentant of your sins & believe in your heart that Christ is the Son of God & that he died on the cross as an atonement for your sins - IT IS OF THE MOST URGENCY THAT YOU BE BAPTIZED IMMEDIATELY FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS!!!
The act of baptism is an renactment of the death, burial & ressurection of Christ. Christ died on the cross, he was buried & he rose again after the 3rd day.
Likewise, when we are baptized - the act of baptism is the washing away of our sins. When we have repented of our sins, and confes our faith that Christ is the Son of God, we are renouncing our old sins (putting them to death). And when we are baptised & (fully) immerced in the water, we are burying our old sins. And when we rise up out of the water - our old sins are dead & buried & we can rise up to walk in a newness of life.
Now, in reference to the thief on the cross - WE MUST REMEMBER THAT WITH CHRIST - ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!! And, did it ever occur to you that Christ was not yet DEAD when he told the thief that "This day you will be with me in Paradice".
So, if Christ was not yet dead - the thief was not yet under the teachings of new covenant. However, it's quite possible the thief HAD BEEN BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION OF HIS SINS... No person who has ever lived knows for sure... But, it does appear the thief was familiar with Christ's teachings...
There is no place in the Bible that says baptism will save you!!!!!!!!!!
Of course, most Christians are baptized and I think they should be. You think they have to be dunked under water. Have you ever thought about people that can never be dunked under water?
What do you think happens to them? You think they go to Hell because they were not dunked under water? Hogwash!
What really gets me are the churches that insist you be baptized in their church (building) in order to be a member of their church. To me, that is legalism! I think once a person is baptized no matter which way they do it is ok. It is a symbolic thing. As long as we believe that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for our sins and rose again and that he is coming back again..........is all he asks!

A person on their deathded certainly cannot be dunked in the water. It's called common sense! People tend to too legalistic with manmade ideas.

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Truth Teller wrote:
<quoted text>"Courageously seeking the truth"??? You are talking about seeking the truth? Obama,you,and the liberals have no clue what the truth is anymore.This administration and truth have never met. IRS,Bhengazi,NSA,Immigration,F ast&Furious,ACORN,Manipula ted unemployment&Debt figures,Obamacare small print,etc. Give us a break Dawg!
Here is some truth for you:

After all your crazy ranting BS...Much to your great surprise, Next year when ObamaCare is set up...IT WILL BE A GREAT SUCCESS!!!!

just like RomneyCare has been in MA!

Your GOP is going the way of the Whigs... Extinct!!!

LOL!!!!
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Sin is forgiven when you show true sorrow and regret of the sin you committed and turn awayv from it and never do it again. That is true repentence.

You are relying on the NT which is sorely flawed. Scholars cannot even say for sure who wrote the NT. If the NT is true, why did Justinian, a contemporary of Jesus, not mention his name one time in any of his writings? Your NT is nothing more than a fable.

The historical Jeshu lived 400 years before the NT Jesus came on the scene. The NT does not compute, and it is full of contradictions.

The only text that says you must be baptised is the NT. Does that not raise red flags in your brain? hmmmmm
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
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Norton,
All I know is what the bible commands us to do. The bible also tells us to "lean not upon our own understanding". Now, would a person really want to take the CHANCE on their soul's salvation - because they personally don't believe a person has to be baptised to be saved?? The stakes are VERY HIGH here. And personally, I choose to obey what the bible tells us to do rather than "lean upon my own understanding".
Why do you think (in every instance) in the bible when a person was ready to accept the teachings of Christ, and wanted to be saved - the Apostles (or others) IMMEDIATELY BAPTIZED THEM???
Yes, when you are repentant of your sins & believe in your heart that Christ is the Son of God & that he died on the cross as an atonement for your sins - IT IS OF THE MOST URGENCY THAT YOU BE BAPTIZED IMMEDIATELY FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS!!!
The act of baptism is an renactment of the death, burial & ressurection of Christ. Christ died on the cross, he was buried & he rose again after the 3rd day.
Likewise, when we are baptized - the act of baptism is the washing away of our sins. When we have repented of our sins, and confes our faith that Christ is the Son of God, we are renouncing our old sins (putting them to death). And when we are baptised & (fully) immerced in the water, we are burying our old sins. And when we rise up out of the water - our old sins are dead & buried & we can rise up to walk in a newness of life.
Now, in reference to the thief on the cross - WE MUST REMEMBER THAT WITH CHRIST - ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!! And, did it ever occur to you that Christ was not yet DEAD when he told the thief that "This day you will be with me in Paradice".
So, if Christ was not yet dead - the thief was not yet under the teachings of new covenant. However, it's quite possible the thief HAD BEEN BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION OF HIS SINS... No person who has ever lived knows for sure... But, it does appear the thief was familiar with Christ's teachings...
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I'm starting to think this yellow dog democrat is really Brenda in disquise

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Jun 19, 2013
 
haha
My hair might be yellow but I aint no demcrat. Thats what kweers and weirdos vote for LOL
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Jun 19, 2013
 
Hey Brenda since there is alot of so called politicians in this thread do you think we can find Katy a man here?

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I dunno. There seems to be alot of weidos here that voted for Obama LOL
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Jun 19, 2013
 
Even they need to be loved by a big boned 6 foot gal

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Gassy Girl wrote:
Even they need to be loved by a big boned 6 foot gal
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You are cruisin for a bruisin if you dont stop telling people that I am big boned LOL
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#83728
Jun 19, 2013
 
YOure right Katy. I should also mention that you have very long legs that dont stop until they get that your onion booty
LMAO

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Gassy Girl wrote:
YOure right Katy. I should also mention that you have very long legs that dont stop until they get that your onion booty
LMAO
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ROFL! You are cracking me up
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onion booty?????
are you druinking again? LMMFAO
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Jun 19, 2013
 
Nope! Just google onion booty. Its a good thing

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Norton wrote:
<quoted text>{To "Contraire"} You are a false prophet putting out untruths! Garbage! What Book of Thomas? It isn't in my Bible!
So tell me, when you die what happens to your soul? You think you just turn back to dust? I plan on spending eternity in Heaven. What if you are right and I am wrong ....... it won't make any difference, will it? BUT, what if I am right (and I know I am) and you are wrong? That will make a lot of difference, won't it? It's either Heaven or Hell .......... your choice! You have sold your soul out to Satan! I pray you will think about it before it is too late....
"Norton," you say, "What if you are right and I am wrong....... it won't make any difference, will it?"

That's right, "Norton." It makes no difference.

(Heh! "sell your soul to Satan"! That has a ring to it! I understand Satan is giving top dollar today, what with all the economic problems. Better get yourself down to the "used-soul" lot right away!)

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<quoted text>"Courageously seeking the truth"??? You are talking about seeking the truth? Obama, you, and the liberals have no clue what the truth is anymore. This administration and truth have never met. IRS, Bhengazi, NSA, Immigration, Fast&Furious, ACORN, Manipulated unemployment & Debt figures, Obamacare small print, etc. Give us a break Dawg!
The way you are rambling, you should give yourself a break!

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