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#80193 Apr 16, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?????
I don't claim superiority nor behave that Christianity is weak....
Christianity has a lot of influence, but your inerrant Bible teaches you that your God is weak:

Genesis 2:2 (KJV) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

A strong god would not have had to rest on the seventh day from the labors of creating the world.

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

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#80194 Apr 16, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text> ... It is an either/or thing. You either believe the Bible or you don't. It cannot be part one way or the other. If only part of it is true, how would you know any of it is true? You can't ride the fence....
If your body has some weakness, are you saying that therefore your body cannot exist?

If only a part of your body is alive, how would you know that any of it is alive?

In your case, let us not "ride the fence." Since, presumably, your body has some weaknesses, let us conclude with certainty that you are not alive.

Goodbye to "Norton." We hardly got to know him.
Get _it_right

Poplar Bluff, MO

#80195 Apr 16, 2013
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Christianity has a lot of influence, but your inerrant Bible teaches you that your God is weak:
Genesis 2:2 (KJV) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
A strong god would not have had to rest on the seventh day from the labors of creating the world.
He chose to rest...didn't have to, but chose to.
guest 2

New York, NY

#80196 Apr 16, 2013
You gotta fight.....
guest 2

New York, NY

#80197 Apr 16, 2013
For your right.....

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

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#80198 Apr 16, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text> ... I have heard other people say ..... well, I don't believe Jonah was in the belly of a whale. Why not? Anything is possible with God....
You are undoubtedly correct, "Norton." Jonah lived in the belly of a great fish for 3 days, and then was coughed up onto the shore -- alive and unhurt. It must be true.

Speaking of other true things, consider the "Ballad of Davy Crockett":

" ... Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree ...
Kilt him a b'ar when he was only three!...

Davy! Davy Crockett! King of the wild frontier!"



(Of course, if any part of that song is false, we must conclude that Davy Crockett never existed -- that is known as "Norton's Law.")

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

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#80199 Apr 16, 2013
Get _it_right wrote:
<quoted text>
He chose to rest ... didn't have to, but chose to.
ROFL! So your "god" CHOSE to rest. Okay. Why did he rest? And HOW does a god rest?

“this is a dark ride”

Since: Aug 10

Earth

#80200 Apr 16, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Norton is a "true believer." He doesn't require facts. He accepts the most outrageous stories as true. When pressed into a corner it is always God did it with magic while lording his supposed superior position over others.
He can't admit the possibility that much of the Bible is allegory intended to convey a message about good and evil, God, theology and morals. It doesn't have to be true in order to deliver that message. He ignores or fails to recognize inconsistencies that are glaringly obvious to those not hypnotized into believing anything they are told without question. Really, he is a good representative of his type. We are fortunate to have his expertise available here. Just don't let him know where his actual expertise lies.
Well said DFS...as I've mentioned before, I respect NORTON's right to follow his beliefs. However, having an IQ slightly greater than plantlife, I'm not able to convince myself that blatant contradictions are irrelevant when faith translates the Bible as inerrant.

As DAWG has so often done, I'll discuss an example and wait, with bated breath, for Norton to correct my sorry simple-mindedness.

Here we go...let's look at the fable of Noah's ark. Since with God anything is possible, I will agree with the following:
1) Noah could acquire the materials and make an ark to God's specifications
2) Noah could gather aboard pairs of every species having the "breath of life"
3) Rain and the wellsprings of the earth could account for a global rise in sea level of 29,049 feet.
4) Adequate food for all on board could be stored
5) Waste matter and disease would not be a problem
6) Reproduction by smaller species would not create a problem with available space

God could take care of all those things and more!!

So, where's the discrepancy? CHRONOLOGY!!!
Of course the Bible is not in cover to cover timeline format. However, Genesis 8:5-8 tells an ORDERED SEQUENCE of events not to be explained away with magic.
1) The water receded until the tops of the mountains appeared, then;
2) After 40 days, Noah sent a raven out which flew until it found a place to land, then;
3) Noah sent a dove out. The dove returned because the ENTIRE surface of the earth was flooded.

Whoa, what happened? REFLOOD?
Guest

United States

#80202 Apr 16, 2013
TO PAAAAAARRRRTYYY!!

“The strength of science is”

Since: Jan 11

founded in facts.

#80203 Apr 16, 2013
Poos ur daddy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said DFS...as I've mentioned before, I respect NORTON's right to follow his beliefs. However, having an IQ slightly greater than plantlife, I'm not able to convince myself that blatant contradictions are irrelevant when faith translates the Bible as inerrant.
As DAWG has so often done, I'll discuss an example and wait, with bated breath, for Norton to correct my sorry simple-mindedness.
Here we go...let's look at the fable of Noah's ark. Since with God anything is possible, I will agree with the following:
1) Noah could acquire the materials and make an ark to God's specifications
2) Noah could gather aboard pairs of every species having the "breath of life"
3) Rain and the wellsprings of the earth could account for a global rise in sea level of 29,049 feet.
4) Adequate food for all on board could be stored
5) Waste matter and disease would not be a problem
6) Reproduction by smaller species would not create a problem with available space
God could take care of all those things and more!!
So, where's the discrepancy? CHRONOLOGY!!!
Of course the Bible is not in cover to cover timeline format. However, Genesis 8:5-8 tells an ORDERED SEQUENCE of events not to be explained away with magic.
1) The water receded until the tops of the mountains appeared, then;
2) After 40 days, Noah sent a raven out which flew until it found a place to land, then;
3) Noah sent a dove out. The dove returned because the ENTIRE surface of the earth was flooded.
Whoa, what happened? REFLOOD?
Another inconsistency. This is a new one for me. I would like to see what kind of answer you get, but likely it will be ignored.

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Since: Aug 10

Earth

#80204 Apr 16, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Another inconsistency. This is a new one for me. I would like to see what kind of answer you get, but likely it will be ignored.
the dam broke....the monkey got choked....and they all went to heaven in a little rowboat....
Gun Grabbing Commies

Reeds Spring, MO

#80206 Apr 16, 2013
WHERE WAS GOD DURING THE BOSTON MARATHON?

As the F.B.I. and Department of Homeland Security sift through the collateral damage in Boston, one thing is abundantly clear: it was an act of terrorism. Questions, like who is responsible and their motivation, remain to be determined. Along with those questions, one cannot help but ask where God is during events like this.

It is a fair question. I’ve asked it myself a time or two, especially after losing my husband some years back. There is something about death that shocks the rest of us into reality. We want answers…we need answers. We need to know that somehow in some way, the pain we are feeling in that moment is of some significance to someone, somewhere in the universe.

Meanwhile, the clock’s pendulum swings, the sun rises and falls, the seasons change, and life moves forward…whether we like it or not. At some point along this pain-filled journey we call grief, we wonder where, exactly, was God during our time of suffering? Did he hear our cries? Did he see our pain…or was he too preoccupied with bigger concerns to notice?

We cast blame. We want justice. What did we do wrong? What could we have done better? Through the pain, we begin to understand how small we actually are… and how precious life is. We begin to recognize the reality of our own mortality. Like it or not, death is a reality for all of us. It comes for us many times when we least expect…and always too soon…in the blink of an eye or the blast of a bomb.

We must come to grips with the reality that we live in a fallen world with all kinds of evil, and there’s nothing we can do to separate ourselves from it. Whether we like it or not, the world is full of people who are bent on taking out their anger and frustration on the innocent. Take heart; the short time we spend on this planet is not all there is to living. There is a hereafter, so it might be wise for each of us to figure out where we are headed here after.

In the meantime, instead of focusing on all the evil that seems to permeate every crack and crevice of this planet, we must look for the goodness around us. Like in the marathon runners who ran through the smoke and risked their lives to help the injured and others who crossed the finish line and continued running to the hospital to donate blood for the victims. Where was God? He showed up in the form of first responders and everyday bystanders who applied makeshift tourniquets, carried victims, or simply prayed.

God gets it. He understands our hurts. He feels our pain, empathizes with us in our grief, and hears our cries because He knows what it feels like to watch a loved one die. He’s been there. So He cries along with us, reminding us along the way to breathe in… and breathe out… as we wait for history to finish the last pages of the story. Someday, we will look back at this brief moment we called life… and exceptionally bad days like Monday in Boston will somehow make sense…in light of eternity.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/where-was-go...
guest 666

Saint Louis, MO

#80207 Apr 16, 2013
Guest1 wrote:
HERE'S YOUR SIGN
Red Light District?

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Earth

#80208 Apr 16, 2013
Gun Grabbing Commies wrote:
WHERE WAS GOD DURING THE BOSTON MARATHON?
A little ethereal but....KUDOS!!!! You didn't mention guns!!!
old Thread

Newmarket, NH

#80209 Apr 16, 2013
This thread is OLD, crusty and boring!!! Not sure why it is showing in my home town. All of you are lifeless. Go get a job.
Guest

United States

#80210 Apr 16, 2013
old Thread wrote:
This thread is OLD, crusty and boring!!! Not sure why it is showing in my home town. All of you are lifeless. Go get a job.
Yes this thread is pretty much like a soap opera. You can stay away for awhile and the same old things are being said by the same base participants. Boring is right.
Guest 666

Saint Louis, MO

#80211 Apr 17, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes this thread is pretty much like a soap opera. You can stay away for awhile and the same old things are being said by the same base participants. Boring is right.
YAWN...boring like your post
Guest 666

Saint Louis, MO

#80212 Apr 17, 2013
Gun Grabbing Commies wrote:
WHERE WAS GOD DURING THE BOSTON MARATHON?
As the F.B.I. and Department of Homeland Security sift through the collateral damage in Boston, one thing is abundantly clear: it was an act of terrorism. Questions, like who is responsible and their motivation, remain to be determined. Along with those questions, one cannot help but ask where God is during events like this.
It is a fair question. I’ve asked it myself a time or two, especially after losing my husband some years back. There is something about death that shocks the rest of us into reality. We want answers…we need answers. We need to know that somehow in some way, the pain we are feeling in that moment is of some significance to someone, somewhere in the universe.
Meanwhile, the clock’s pendulum swings, the sun rises and falls, the seasons change, and life moves forward…whether we like it or not. At some point along this pain-filled journey we call grief, we wonder where, exactly, was God during our time of suffering? Did he hear our cries? Did he see our pain…or was he too preoccupied with bigger concerns to notice?
We cast blame. We want justice. What did we do wrong? What could we have done better? Through the pain, we begin to understand how small we actually are… and how precious life is. We begin to recognize the reality of our own mortality. Like it or not, death is a reality for all of us. It comes for us many times when we least expect…and always too soon…in the blink of an eye or the blast of a bomb.
We must come to grips with the reality that we live in a fallen world with all kinds of evil, and there’s nothing we can do to separate ourselves from it. Whether we like it or not, the world is full of people who are bent on taking out their anger and frustration on the innocent. Take heart; the short time we spend on this planet is not all there is to living. There is a hereafter, so it might be wise for each of us to figure out where we are headed here after.
In the meantime, instead of focusing on all the evil that seems to permeate every crack and crevice of this planet, we must look for the goodness around us. Like in the marathon runners who ran through the smoke and risked their lives to help the injured and others who crossed the finish line and continued running to the hospital to donate blood for the victims. Where was God? He showed up in the form of first responders and everyday bystanders who applied makeshift tourniquets, carried victims, or simply prayed.
God gets it. He understands our hurts. He feels our pain, empathizes with us in our grief, and hears our cries because He knows what it feels like to watch a loved one die. He’s been there. So He cries along with us, reminding us along the way to breathe in… and breathe out… as we wait for history to finish the last pages of the story. Someday, we will look back at this brief moment we called life… and exceptionally bad days like Monday in Boston will somehow make sense…in light of eternity.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/where-was-go...
I magine God was in the very same place when your beloved capital Richmond was in flames and your NeoConfederate dreams were going up in smoke!

He was sitting on the board of BAIN Capital-HALLIBURTON...lol
Guest

United States

#80213 Apr 17, 2013
Yawn
Gun Grabbing Commies

Reeds Spring, MO

#80214 Apr 17, 2013
OBAMA’S WATERGATE
The story of what happened in Benghazi on September 11, 2012 has been narrated by a schizophrenic.

Or so it seems.

On September 11, 2012, four Americans were murdered in Benghazi: Ambassador Chris Stevens, Communications Specialist Sean Smith, and former SEALS Ty Woods and Glen Doherty.

For weeks, the Obama administration blamed a “protest turned violent” over an amateurish anti-Muslim YouTube video.

Susan Rice hit the Sunday news show circuit with this story—five news shows in one day!

Hillary Clinton crooned for the State Department hit parade, even co-starring with Barry Obama in a $70,000 commercial apologizing to “our Muslim friends in Pakistan” who were rioting and tearing apart their countries because they hated America so much.

And our own rock star President took his “protest turned violent” road show to the United Nations, delivering a long-winded speech about how evil it was for an American citizen to exercise his right to free speech by making the “anti-Muslim” YouTube video.

And as a cherry on top, they imprisoned the producer of the video for so-called “probation violations.” Where the producer of the video—Nakoula Basseley Nakoula—now is, God only knows. Obama probably whisked him off to some rendition camp in Karachi.

Well, it turned out that it was a terrorist attack, except no one seemed to know who told Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, and the President of the United States that it was caused by a YouTube video.

It turned out that Obama was informed that the al-Qaeda-linked group Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the attack within two hours.

It turned out from a series of hacked emails from Bill Clinton crony Sidney Blumenthal to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that Ansar al-Sharia attacked the consulate and CIA annex in retaliation for the CIA’s involvement in the Libyan civil war—on Muammar Gaddafi’s side. We also know from a Blumenthal February 16, 2013 email that the attack on the consulate was funded by our so-called allies, the Saudis.

And it turned out that Benghazi was a hub for funneling weapons and cash to the al-Qaeda-linked Syrian rebels.

But this only scratched the surface. There was something much more nefarious going on in Benghazi—if that’s possible—and the Obama administration wanted to keep a tight lid on it.

What was the Obama administration doing in Benghazi that was so top secret, in which the thirty odd survivors have been kept under lock and key, prohibited from speaking to Congress or anyone else for that matter?

We know from the recently published book, Benghazi: The Definitive Report, that Obama’s chief counter terrorism officer at the time, John Brennan—now CIA chief—had been secretly involved in the Libyan civil war. Through a secret black ops unit—operating not only outside the purview of Congress, but outside the purview of the Pentagon and the CIA—John Brennan, like an errant knight over his own fiefdom, conducted his secret war in Libya. And that was just one of the secret wars he was involved in. This while he was a lowly chief counter terrorism officer! Now that he’s CIA chief, it is hard to even imagine what this man, operating outside of the Constitution, is involved in!

Obama, like a fox guarding the hen house, promised the American people he’d get to the bottom of what happened in Benghazi and “bring the perpetrators to justice.” Not one single person has been “brought to justice.” And the result of his “investigation” was the so-called “Benghazi Accountability Report,” released on December 17, 2012, that didn’t actually find anyone accountable. The Report’s chief author was Islamic apologist Thomas Pickering, who is tied to the National Iranian American Council. He also hobnobs with leftist billionaire George Soros, sharing the Board of Directors table at the think tank International Crisis Group.

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