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#80065 Apr 13, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't need to know the truth "after it's too late"! I know the truth before it's too late.
Sure we will all physically die but our soul will live forever and it's up to all of us where we choose to live. That, my friend, is the true fact!...
I see, my friend. You say that our souls live forever. You just admitted that our souls are not physical. Presumably they are spirits. So how can Hell's fire hurt a spirit? That is another huge hole in your "eternal punishment" mythology.

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#80066 Apr 13, 2013
Info wrote:
You all are F*ucktards with no life. Get a Life it's Saturday and Your point is that you all have been on this post for most of your life in the last two years. So that only leads people to believe you don't have one. Get a hobby, Losers! Only the people that feel like this has hit home will reply to this post.
And only a loser would take the time to make a post such as yours. My hobby is "spinning up" losers like you.

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#80067 Apr 13, 2013
RNC Rightwing NUT Cases wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't that W ?
Yes, as W was reading "My Pet Goat" to school children in Florida while terrorists were attacking the World Trade Center in NYC.(Bush was already aware of the first two attacks.)

Of course, he did not get up and "attend to business." He said that he "didn't want to upset the children."

There were several thousand people in NYC who were being "upset," while Bush frittered away 11 minutes of precious time in which he could have acted "presidential" and assumed the position of "Commander in Chief."

“this is a dark ride”

Since: Aug 10

Earth

#80068 Apr 13, 2013
One who knows wrote:
<quoted text>You point out another important piece of this puzzle that is often overlooked or disregarded. Biological evolution does not address the existence of a Creator. It neither supports nor refutes God or any god.
Good point....evolutionists and creationists are far more concerned with dispelling each other's beliefs than finding common ground...

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#80069 Apr 13, 2013
One who knows wrote:
<quoted text>Having read many posts you have made and many posts made against you, I have come to the conclusion that you are educated and intelligent even if I do not find myself in agreement with everything you post.
From reading over the last several days worth of posts, the posters on this thread can be loosely placed in two camps. THere seems to be educatinal and intellectual differences in these two camps that are markedly displayed, but not necessarily consciously displayed, by the posters in those camps. Based on my reading, I wouold say that you are one of the biggest targest of the opposing camp because you seem to be one of the most prolific of the more intellectually and factually guided posters on here. What I find interesting is that despite the anonymity of this site, many in the more visceral camp seem to take the comments made here personally. It is a strange thing that people that do not actaully know each other seem to have such an unlikely investment in what others post on here. Would you consider that to be fair and accurate?
If you look further at patterns, there seems to be a camp that spends some time on here ridiculing others for spending time on here. The overlap of this camp with the visceral, less cerebral camp is almost complete as near as I can determine. What do you think of this observation?
I have addressed you specifically on these thoughts because I do not think that my observations would be understood or accepted by those for whom these observations best describe.
Well, thank you for your comments. As the population goes, I consider myself to be educated and intelligent. However, I am not "broadly" educated - meaning there are hundreds of topics which I do not know, or understand. My background is in engineering, not the social sciences, nor liberal arts, nor politics, nor government.

I would be disappointed in you if you DID agree with me entirely. Sometimes, even I do not agree with myself. The world is highly nuanced, with many "shades of gray." No one knows everything.

This is somewhat of a joke, but the more education I got, the more I discovered that I did NOT know. Thus, the more I studied, the dumber I got! So -- I quit taking classes, and now feel very much smarter!_8-)

(To restate: Only the closed-minded know everything.)

Certainly everyone has an "investment" in what we believe and say, and some often are upset when others disagree with them. As my English teacher often said, "What you students say about Shakespeare tells me more about you, than it tells me about Shakespeare."

I do admit to acting somewhat like a "lightning rod" to elicit interesting and contrary responses. This is merely a hobby, and hopefully will slow down the atrophy of my brain.

You are correct. There is a subset of people who post here, saying that no one should post here -- a clear contradiction in itself.

I will also admit to "giving no quarter" to my antagonists. Whatever I must write to "win," I will do. I will not "help" them by being easy on them.

I will state that, when a person comes onto this thread and attempts to engage in a meaningful discussion, I will not attack him, provided I believe that the person is sincere in his beliefs. As a volunteer "crisis counselor," I rode in a police cruiser (weekends) for a few years with a cop who was a "mirror." If he was approached in a belligerent manner, he was belligerent; if he was approached politely, he reflected that same politeness.

I enjoy posting on this thread, and am amazed that the discussion has continued so long, and with such little regard for the original "subject."

(I must note that if I took any criticisms of me personally, I would have been gone two years ago.)
Ralphie

United States

#80070 Apr 13, 2013
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, as W was reading "My Pet Goat" to school children in Florida while terrorists were attacking the World Trade Center in NYC.(Bush was already aware of the first two attacks.)
Of course, he did not get up and "attend to business." He said that he "didn't want to upset the children."
There were several thousand people in NYC who were being "upset," while Bush frittered away 11 minutes of precious time in which he could have acted "presidential" and assumed the position of "Commander in Chief."
You have to be fricking kidding me. Where was Hillary and Barrak 2:00am when Bengazie was going on? They didn't want to upset the election, keep the ignorant and uninformed like you in their grace.
Gun Grabbing Commies

Reeds Spring, MO

#80071 Apr 13, 2013
One who knows wrote:
<quoted text>Having read many posts you have made and many posts made against you, I have come to the conclusion that you are educated and intelligent even if I do not find myself in agreement with everything you post.
From reading over the last several days worth of posts, the posters on this thread can be loosely placed in two camps. THere seems to be educatinal and intellectual differences in these two camps that are markedly displayed, but not necessarily consciously displayed, by the posters in those camps. Based on my reading, I wouold say that you are one of the biggest targest of the opposing camp because you seem to be one of the most prolific of the more intellectually and factually guided posters on here. What I find interesting is that despite the anonymity of this site, many in the more visceral camp seem to take the comments made here personally. It is a strange thing that people that do not actaully know each other seem to have such an unlikely investment in what others post on here. Would you consider that to be fair and accurate?
If you look further at patterns, there seems to be a camp that spends some time on here ridiculing others for spending time on here. The overlap of this camp with the visceral, less cerebral camp is almost complete as near as I can determine. What do you think of this observation?
I have addressed you specifically on these thoughts because I do not think that my observations would be understood or accepted by those for whom these observations best describe.
I have come to the conclusion that you are a DumbAssLiberal just like DawgShit.

You can't spell shit! Go back to school and get your GED! It's "educational" not "educational", "would" not "wouold", "target" not "targest", "actually" not "actaully".
Gun Grabbing Commies

Reeds Spring, MO

#80072 Apr 13, 2013
SIGN GRASSFIRE'S "I SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENT" PETITION!
As promised President Obama and the liberal statists are taking swift action to ban guns and restrict the constitutional rights of Americans. Senate Democrats have now unveiled their plan to expand the definition of prohibited "assault" weapons and reduce the legal limit for magazine capacity to ten rounds. One thing is certain, our Second Amendment gun rights are squarely in Obama's crosshairs - and sweeping changes and restrictions are now before Congress.

http://www.grassfire.com/978/petition.asp

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Earth

#80073 Apr 13, 2013
Gun Grabbing Commies wrote:
<quoted text>
I have come to the conclusion that you are a DumbAssLiberal just like DawgShit.
You can't spell shit! Go back to school and get your GED! It's "educational" not "educational"
When you correct someone, YOU should be correct lol!!! Please elucidate,,,, "educational" not "educational"?

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Earth

#80074 Apr 13, 2013
Gun Grabbing Commies wrote:
SIGN GRASSFIRE'S "I SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENT" PETITION!
As promised President Obama and the liberal statists are taking swift action to ban guns and restrict the constitutional rights of Americans. Senate Democrats have now unveiled their plan to expand the definition of prohibited "assault" weapons and reduce the legal limit for magazine capacity to ten rounds. One thing is certain, our Second Amendment gun rights are squarely in Obama's crosshairs - and sweeping changes and restrictions are now before Congress.
http://www.grassfire.com/978/petition.asp
Thanks for the update *snicker*
Gun Grabbing Commies

Reeds Spring, MO

#80075 Apr 13, 2013
Can We Say Conflict Of Interest? Biden Rents Cottage On His Property To Secret Service
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/13/can-we-say...

Egypt: Christian Man Dies After Being Doused With Gas And Set On Fire By Muslim Mob…
~ Coming to America soon. Already here in many areas!
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/13/egypt-chri...

Turkey Warns Europe Of New “Holocaust” If They Don’t Accept Islam…
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/13/turkey-war...

Shades Of Obamacare: Illegal Immigration Bill To Be Rushed To Hearing Without Senators Having Time To Read It
~ This is how liberals operate. Chicagoland Thugs!
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/13/shades-of-...
Norton

Kansas City, MO

#80076 Apr 13, 2013
Just a Thought wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe there is not enough hornblowers on the people receiving benefits illegally. The government has no idea how much true waste there is in benefits being received because they don't have the manpower to investigate all the cases. Most people stand by and don't want to get involved.
Perhaps they could spend some of that money they are so freely printing to 'up' their manpower to investigate some of people getting benefits illegally. However, I am sure they won't do that. That would lose them some votes!

CHEERS!
Norton

Kansas City, MO

#80077 Apr 13, 2013
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
I see, my friend. You say that our souls live forever. You just admitted that our souls are not physical. Presumably they are spirits. So how can Hell's fire hurt a spirit? That is another huge hole in your "eternal punishment" mythology.
You see, my friend, we get new bodies......remember? Our souls live forever and those of us that get new bodies.......well, it's going to be great. Your soul is what you are without your physical body. I don't really know what Heaven or Hell will be like but the Bible say Heaven will be better than we can even imagine and Hell will be terrible. All I know is.....Hell will be suffering for eternity. I am sure you wouldn't want that. I don't even wish that for you, Dawg!

In John's Gospel, chapter 5, Jesus taught so plainly that there will be two resurections. The resurrection of the just and the unjust. The unbeliever is also going to be resurrected out of Hell before the Great White Throne and will appear there bodily in a newly resurrected body, but it will be a body fit not for glory and not for Heaven, but a body fit for the eternal lake of fire. Only those that reject the Lord go there.

CHEERS!

CHEERS!

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#80078 Apr 13, 2013
Ralphie wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to be fricking kidding me. Where was Hillary and Barrak 2:00am when Bengazie was going on? They didn't want to upset the election, keep the ignorant and uninformed like you in their grace.
"Ralphie," Benghazi is so "yesterday." If you want to know what happened, look up and read the conclusions of the various congressional investigating committees.

To prove that YOU are not "ignorant" or "uninformed," tell us precisely what should have been done by the US during the Benghazi attack. You will be graded upon your answer.

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#80079 Apr 13, 2013
Gun Grabbing Commies wrote:
<quoted text>
I have come to the conclusion that you are a DumbAssLiberal just like DawgShit.
You can't spell shit! Go back to school and get your GED! It's "educational" not "educational", "would" not "wouold", "target" not "targest", "actually" not "actaully".
Ah, yes! If as Neo-CONs you have nothing of value to say, then stoop to your usual vulgarity. You are on familiar ground there.

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#80080 Apr 13, 2013
Poos ur daddy wrote:
<quoted text>
When you correct someone, YOU should be correct lol!!! Please elucidate,,,, "educational" not "educational"?
<.snicker @ "GunHugger".>

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#80081 Apr 13, 2013
Gun Grabbing Commies wrote:
Can We Say Conflict Of Interest? Biden Rents Cottage On His Property To Secret Service ...
Can you say, "That's done all the time, by both parties, to provide nearby housing for the Secret Service bodyguards."

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#80082 Apr 13, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
You see, my friend, we get new bodies...... remember? Our souls live forever and those of us that get new bodies....... well, it's going to be great. Your soul is what you are without your physical body. I don't really know what Heaven or Hell will be like but the Bible say Heaven will be better than we can even imagine and Hell will be terrible. All I know is.....Hell will be suffering for eternity. I am sure you wouldn't want that. I don't even wish that for you, Dawg!
In John's Gospel, chapter 5, Jesus taught so plainly that there will be two resurections. The resurrection of the just and the unjust. The unbeliever is also going to be resurrected out of Hell before the Great White Throne and will appear there bodily in a newly resurrected body, but it will be a body fit not for glory and not for Heaven, but a body fit for the eternal lake of fire. Only those that reject the Lord go there.....
"Norton" you forgot to mention a "brand new body" when you said, "Sure we will all physically die but our soul will live forever and it's up to all of us where we choose to live."

John chapter 5 says no such thing, as you state. In no case did Jesus say that there would be two resurrections, nor did He say that the body would be "new," nor for what purpose.

Why do you pretend to know what the Bible says, when it is so easy to check your allegations? As usual, "Norton" -- you flunk Bible 101.
seriously

Houston, MO

#80083 Apr 13, 2013
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
John chapter 5 says no such thing, as you state. In no case did Jesus say that there would be two resurrections, nor did He say that the body would be "new," nor for what purpose.
Why do you pretend to know what the Bible says, when it is so easy to check your allegations? As usual, "Norton" -- you flunk Bible 101.
There are two resurrections. That there is more than one resurrection was predicted in Daniel 12:2 in which it states:“And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.” These resurrections are further described as with different purposes in John 5:28-29 when Jesus states “… an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs shall hear His voice, 29 and shall come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment

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#80084 Apr 14, 2013
seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
There are two resurrections. That there is more than one resurrection was predicted in Daniel 12:2 in which it states:“And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.” These resurrections are further described as with different purposes in John 5:28-29 when Jesus states “… an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs shall hear His voice, 29 and shall come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment
Great! So it makes no difference whether one believes in Jesus, or not! It is only necessary to do "good deeds."

Thanks for clearing that up.

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