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“I have upset the hand of god”

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TheJokster wrote:
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My bad. I guess I should have said one of his daughters. For anyone to be worthy of impressing on here I would have to actually care about their thoughts and/or ideals. Being I don't care, they are not worthy of impressing. Like some on here I don't need the support, pats on the back and/or the applause of others to feel like I am witty, good or funny.
Then you are here purely as an intellectual exercise perhaps. I will just point out that while several of us are friends on here and will back each others play, does not mean that any form of adulation or codependence is required. I would say that for some of us, we have just come to like and respect each other.
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Yes Norton do tell tell the book, chapter, and verse. And as well Yellowdawg on the many sons you speak of that God had, do tell tell the book, chapter, and verse as well. For in the Bible the word "son" is a term expressing a relationship with someone or something. It indicates origin, but it is also used to express close association or identification with persons or things. Even when indicating origin the term does not limit oneself to one's father and mother. One may be called the "son" of the his father and mother, the son of his family, the son of his tribe, the son of his people, the son of his place of birth (city or country).
Acts 2:22,23
'Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know,'Him (This Jesus), being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, Ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:" What does the determinate counsel mean? It means the Trinity, the Triune God, Three Persons yet One, consulted within this Godhead before anything was ever created. They agreed within the Trinity, knowing everything that would take place: that fallen man would need a Redeemer, and salvation would be that Second Person of the Trinity who would step down from the invisible Godhead, take on flesh and go the way of the finished work of the Cross for man's redemption. Now all of that was foreknown and consummated in the thought process of the Trinity. It implies that all Three persons of the Godhead had agreed that this is the way it would be done......and that is exactly what this verse means,.........BY THE DETERMINATE COUNSEL. They are co-equal.

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Gooberment Handouts

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LIBERAL TIT SUCKERS ELECTED OBAMA

Mitt Romney got a lot of flack, and probably lost the election, about saying 47% of the people are pathetic losers, to the Kenyan Muslim Socialist Barack Obama.

Well, he was right. In fact, according to some estimates 96% of you are deadbeat leeches. This is why our country WILL collapse, unless someone takes over and changes the course of our country!

This graph http://liberalbias.com/images/content/deadbea... clearly proves his claim.

Living off handouts: it's not just the poor
http://www.economist.com/blogs/buttonwood/201...

How Government Handouts Foster Dependency
http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/09/how-gov...

It's Easier to Get Welfare Than to Work
http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/03/its-eas...

More than half of Americans depend on government subsidies
http://rt.com/usa/half-government-million-per...

Government assistance programs encourage poverty
http://www.dailybarometer.com/government-assi...

Do welfare recipients have an incentive to work?
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/10/do-welf...

Stossel’s State of the Union Address
http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/ind...

“Now do whats right!”

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Gooberment Handouts wrote:
LIBERAL TIT SUCKERS ELECTED OBAMA
Mitt Romney got a lot of flack, and probably lost the election, about saying 47% of the people are pathetic losers, to the Kenyan Muslim Socialist Barack Obama.
Well, he was right. In fact, according to some estimates 96% of you are deadbeat leeches. This is why our country WILL collapse, unless someone takes over and changes the course of our country!
This graph http://liberalbias.com/images/content/deadbea... clearly proves his claim.
Living off handouts: it's not just the poor
http://www.economist.com/blogs/buttonwood/201...
How Government Handouts Foster Dependency
http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/09/how-gov...
It's Easier to Get Welfare Than to Work
http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/03/its-eas...
More than half of Americans depend on government subsidies
http://rt.com/usa/half-government-million-per...
Government assistance programs encourage poverty
http://www.dailybarometer.com/government-assi...
Do welfare recipients have an incentive to work?
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/10/do-welf...
Stossel’s State of the Union Address
http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/ind...
Or has the GOP just failed to put forth a electable canadate?

My opinion, they still must compare their canadates with Bush 47.{Palin, Romney, Paul}

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... Moreover, and importantly, I would also ask you to support the nonprofit gun rights organizations that are down in the trenches and on the front lines, tirelessly defending our rights (including yours) day in and day out....
Oh, YEAH! "NONPROFIT"! ROFL! Just like the NRA is "nonprofit." The NRA is the "bootlicker" to the armament industry, which is more interested in the "freedom to make profit" than the "freedom to bear arms."
WTF is Norton is CRAZY

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Norton wrote:
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Acts 2:22,23
'Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know,'Him (This Jesus), being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, Ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:" What does the determinate counsel mean? It means the Trinity, the Triune God, Three Persons yet One, consulted within this Godhead before anything was ever created. They agreed within the Trinity, knowing everything that would take place: that fallen man would need a Redeemer, and salvation would be that Second Person of the Trinity who would step down from the invisible Godhead, take on flesh and go the way of the finished work of the Cross for man's redemption. Now all of that was foreknown and consummated in the thought process of the Trinity. It implies that all Three persons of the Godhead had agreed that this is the way it would be done......and that is exactly what this verse means,.........BY THE DETERMINATE COUNSEL. They are co-equal.
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WTF is this "BY THE DETERMINATE COUNSEL". what church is that?Determinate Counsel on Kolob????

your as nuts as Mittwitt and Glenn Beck...funny you
attack obama because your are not a Christian...you're a NUTTY Cultist!

you are a disgrace to Christians and the state of missouri

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TheJokster wrote:
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Yes Norton do tell tell the book, chapter, and verse. And as well Yellowdawg on the many sons you speak of that God had, do tell tell the book, chapter, and verse as well. For in the Bible the word "son" is a term expressing a relationship with someone or something. It indicates origin, but it is also used to express close association or identification with persons or things. Even when indicating origin the term does not limit oneself to one's father and mother. One may be called the "son" of the his father and mother, the son of his family, the son of his tribe, the son of his people, the son of his place of birth (city or country).
Why, shore, "Jokster." Try Genesis chapter 6 (KJV):

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

Mind you -- I am not a Bible scholar like "Norton" is, but when I look at the word "son" and the relationship "sons of God," I figure that Jesus was not God's only "son."

In fact, John 3:16 says as much: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

The word "begotten" means born of a woman. Thus, we see that Jesus was God's only BEGOTTEN son. The rest of them presumably remained in Heaven, until they noticed that the "daughters of men" were pretty cute.

Of course, the "purists" such as "Norton" dislike the idea that God had multiple sons. So, over the years, they have been "cleaning up" that little verse, to get rid of the word "begotten."

Thus, we see that the NIV Bible says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Like so many revisions of the Bible, the NIV ("New and Improved Version") cleans up the messy little fact that (Biblically) God had many sons, and that Jesus presumably had many Heavenly brothers who were never "begotten.

(It is obvious that only one of God's sons had to come to earth in fleshly form to be tempted and die without sin on the cross to redeem mankind of its sins, original or otherwise.)

“Exercise Your Brain”

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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I just wanted to make sure. When in doubt ask. Less mistakes that way. Yes, it has and I have a bad habit of dragging it into the wee hours.
Your new avatar threw me. I sort of didn't realize it was you at first. I have been away a while longer than I thought. Good talking to you.
Pleasure talking to you too! I never diss the Dawg.

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TheJokster wrote:
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Yellowdawg did I step on the toes of one of your sons(albtraum? So you are coming to take up for and rescue him? If he doesn't like getting stepped on maybe he should not lay his little mind out there in the open. And no I am not too concerned with rules and/or details and not trying to impress anyone, for on here there is no one worthy to impress.
For starters, "albtraum" is female. Apparently you missed her last three prior icon photos, all three of which were women.

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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks Dawg. I think he may have come pre-drilled from the factory. There is something wrong with that fellers head.
I do enjoy the pseudo intellectuals like him, but sometimes they make it too easy. Two easy? To easy? I am sure TripleNeuroses will correct me even though it is a monumental waste of his valueless time.
Ah, I agree wholeheartedly. But you have raised a dilemma: If his time is valueless, can it be wasted?

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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Put them together and with half a brain, they are TripleInsane.
Is it "Jokster," or is it "Harvey," who completes the Trinity?

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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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For starters, "albtraum" is female. Apparently you missed her last three prior icon photos, all three of which were women.
Yes, I am a female. Trained professionals informed my parents as soon as I was born...."You've got a girl!"
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TheJokster wrote:
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The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons.(Now don't confuse that with this saying there are three Gods). Being that the word “Trinity” is not found in scriptures, it is a word made by man that is used as a term to "attempt" to describe the triune God—three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who make up God.
:) I'm not the one that is confused! Trinity may not be found in scripture but the implication is and it is very clear to those that read the scriptures.

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WTF is Norton is CRAZY wrote:
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WTF is this "BY THE DETERMINATE COUNSEL". what church is that?Determinate Counsel on Kolob????
your as nuts as Mittwitt and Glenn Beck...funny you
attack obama because your are not a Christian...you're a NUTTY Cultist!
you are a disgrace to Christians and the state of missouri
You actually made me laugh! It is not a church. I am trying to prove a point. You act like you know about things of which you know not! Make sense?

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albtraum wrote:
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Pleasure talking to you too! I never diss the Dawg.
I can't imagine why anyone would even want to.

The Dawg abides.
Norton

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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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Why, shore, "Jokster." Try Genesis chapter 6 (KJV):
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Mind you -- I am not a Bible scholar like "Norton" is, but when I look at the word "son" and the relationship "sons of God," I figure that Jesus was not God's only "son."
In fact, John 3:16 says as much: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
The word "begotten" means born of a woman. Thus, we see that Jesus was God's only BEGOTTEN son. The rest of them presumably remained in Heaven, until they noticed that the "daughters of men" were pretty cute.
Of course, the "purists" such as "Norton" dislike the idea that God had multiple sons. So, over the years, they have been "cleaning up" that little verse, to get rid of the word "begotten."
Thus, we see that the NIV Bible says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Like so many revisions of the Bible, the NIV ("New and Improved Version") cleans up the messy little fact that (Biblically) God had many sons, and that Jesus presumably had many Heavenly brothers who were never "begotten.
(It is obvious that only one of God's sons had to come to earth in fleshly form to be tempted and die without sin on the cross to redeem mankind of its sins, original or otherwise.)
I agree........you are not a bible scholar! Neither am I! Perhaps I just understand the Bible a little (lot) better than you. Sorry, don't mean to sound snobbish. It's just that you talk about things that you know nothing about. God had ONE son and that is Jesus Christ!(second person of the trinity that was sent to earth in human form)

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Norton wrote:
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I agree........you are not a bible scholar! Neither am I! Perhaps I just understand the Bible a little (lot) better than you. Sorry, don't mean to sound snobbish. It's just that you talk about things that you know nothing about. God had ONE son and that is Jesus Christ!(second person of the trinity that was sent to earth in human form)
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If you understand the Bible better than others on here, you have done a tremendous job of disguising that fact.

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Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
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Is it "Jokster," or is it "Harvey," who completes the Trinity?
The jury is still out on that. Again, the introduction on this thread of completely new posters that come from out of nowhere yet all maintain a similar position, attitude and inate knowledge of various posters does seem miraculous. They come and go like leaves blowing on the breeze. What if this thread has a foursome instead of a threesome. Would that be a Quarternity, a Quartet or Bridge?
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Norton wrote:
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You actually made me laugh! It is not a church. I am trying to prove a point. You act like you know about things of which you know not! Make sense?
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Yes ...Norton I know what you do ...you just make stuff up...you pull it out of your a@@...where your head is.

Norton your life like your Rapture are lies

You Make NO sense?
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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>If you understand the Bible better than others on here, you have done a tremendous job of disguising that fact.
Who on here understands the Bible? One or two, maybe, a while back. I am just hoping there is someone on here that understands it just a little bit.

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