Cardiology Care Confusion in Washingt...

Cardiology Care Confusion in Washington, MO

There are 152 comments on the Fox2Now story from Nov 17, 2009, titled Cardiology Care Confusion in Washington, MO. In it, Fox2Now reports that:

A doctor dispute in Washington, Missouri is leaving patients with a tough choice to make: local hospital or local doctors.

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Stephens

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Nov 18, 2009
I want my Doctor to see me at the Hospital and I am sure many patients do. The hospitals want to use the Hospitalist a Hospital Doctor it is a finacial thing that is all it is not about the patient as far as the hospital is concerned. I am sorry for the patients in Washington Mo. but St. Clair is a wonderful Hospital and all new equipment state of the art.
what

Saint Johnsbury, VT

#2 Nov 18, 2009
Stephens..... i guess you could say it's a financial thing for pts first.... try seeing them for care if you have no insurance or you owe them money and have lost your job and are unable to pay them and see where you end up at.... SJMH yes that's right SJMH helps any and all pts regardless of ability to pay not pt's first... maybe one day people of the community will wake up and smell the roses... SJMH is an outstanding hospital with unbelievable dr.s at hand....SJMH has respect and dignity. Pt.s first dr.s are trying to take jabs at the hospital and it is down right childish.. come on dr. seeck using a flashlihgt to perform a procedure that is ludacris.....i stand behind SJMH 100% and i WAS even a pt of Dr. Mohart's...I have recently changed to Dr. Polizzi and absolutely love him... GOOD LUCK SJMH..
Dan

Jacksonville, AR

#3 Nov 18, 2009
Terri McLain is not relling the whole truth.She refused to let Patients First cardiologists do a new procedure that would save the patients from having to be trannfered to St.Louis to get it done.That is why they chose to have some procedures done at St.Clare hospital,which is closer that St.Johns med center.She needs to quit fighting with them and work together so the community gets the best possible care, and has a choice of doctors.We now have to cardiologist close in case of an emergency we will have to wait for the new St. Johns doctors to get here after being called.Instead of having our own doctors close.
Shannon

Columbia, MO

#4 Nov 18, 2009
I worked for St Johns in Washington as a nurse for 10 yrs and recently have left. I left for much of the same reasons the doctors of Patient's First opened their own office's. If SJMH would treat those that work with the hospital with "the Mercy spirit" all of this would not be taking place! I myself will go the extra mile and drive to a different hospital just because of the way they treat the employee's. The confusion the patient's will have to deal with will be the worst! SJMH not letting local doctor's practice on their own patient's is medically wrong!!! I can only hope that Patient's First will someday open up a Hospital in Washington! That would prove to SJMH and Terri that you can't bully your way around!!
Stacey

Fenton, MO

#5 Nov 18, 2009
If St. John's in Washignton would have a cardiac cath lab then the cardiologist would have never needed to perform some procedures at ST. Clare in Fenton. I don't really think that would have made a difference though. Ever since Terry Mclain has been president of STJM a lot of changes were made and ever since the expansion at PFHC where they could do some of their own testing and procedures the relationship with STJM has deteriorated. I don't even have to be a patient at either facility to know what is going on STJM is upset because they are losing a little money since PFHC is doing some of their own testing and procedures and are not using the hospital for everything. People are not stupid STJM...this was just an easy excuse to blame PFHC and try to make them look bad when all you guys really wanted was to get PFHC out and try to make people see your own DR's. Patient's are the ones that lose in this.....it should not be about money or competition. Healthcare and the well being of people should be a team effort!
ConcernedEmploye e

Wentzville, MO

#6 Nov 18, 2009
"What"....actually it isn't a financial thing for Patient's First. Patient's with Mercy Health Plan insurance thru the hospital cannot see Pt. First cardiologist anymore or have any tests that are ordered under them but St Johns FAILED TO TELL THE PATIENTS THAT. We have patients still coming in and having procedure done that they are going to have to pay out of POCKET and they DONT EVEN KNOW! Patient's First is going to cover it all FREE OF CHARGE til January 1st 2010. That is ridiculously generous. Those patients have nowhere to go.

On another note, Teri McClain completely lied. It was absolutely NOT our choice to leave. If it was why do we have an electronic and paper petition circulating???

I'm not trying ot be biased just because I'm an employee. I'm also a patient and this is ridiculous on SJMH's part. They have NEVER liked us but now its gone too far.
what

Saint Johnsbury, VT

#7 Nov 18, 2009
I work for SJMH and have for going on 8 yrs and i absolutely love my job and feel that SJMH treats their employees pretty good... Every place has its downfalls and the grass is usually NOT greener on the other side.... SHANNON... Not sure wich floor you worked on but possibly it was your direct supervisor that you had problems with not the hospital as whole... all of these people want to bad mouth SJMH and how bad they are but GOD forbid if you or a family member became ill or injured most likely you will come to SJMH and they will help you or your loved ones and possibly have a hand in saving your life along with GOD and still won't be good enough for you... my heart goes out to people of the community and can only pray that you continue supporting your local hospital
Heather

Hillsboro, MO

#8 Nov 18, 2009
Just for the record this has been an on going feud for many years. If every one would have played nice a long time ago we wouldn't be having this problem now. Patients first says that they want to support our local hospital however before they were no longer allowed to admit patients and see them at St. John's they were admitting and transferring patients to St. Clare Hospital. They were also having patients have tests done at their building or drive all the way to St. Claire hospital in Fenton for testing that could have easily been done at our local hospital. They say they want to keep things locally and support our local hospital but all they are interested in is making money that is why they have earned the nick name "Profits First" instead of Patients First. I am not disputing the fact that they have good physicians however their tactics of fighting with the hospital are only hurting two sets of people, the community and the workers. The community is upset with the hospital and I really wish that they would see that all the workers of the hospital want to do is take the best care of them as possible. This feud is between administrations of the two entities. When it comes down to it we still just want to care for you. Coming from someone who actually enjoys their job and enjoys taking care of their patients I just wish everyone could get along so that our patients felt that they could be taken care of without any worries. I hope all patients in the community know that if they come to St. John's the staff will care for them no matter who their physicians are.
Shannon

Columbia, MO

#9 Nov 18, 2009
What from Kalamazoo, MI- I worked on Tele/med and had NO problem with Lora or Pat! I also floated to 6th/7th/ICU/ER.... NEVER did I have a problem with ANY of the floors/dept! I also worked at the McAuley Clinic for a 1 1/2 yrs. I miss every person I worked with there but do not miss the company. Upon leaving SJMH I attempted to have a meeting with Terri to explain to her why I was leaving(for the good of the hospital/Clinic/patients.), she couldn't even make time for that and she knew why I wanted to see her. I myself wish things were different with SJMH and PFHC but I'm sure it never will be, that's why I look forward to PFHC "hopefully" someday opening a hospital of it's own in Washington!!
HeyGirl

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Nov 18, 2009
St. Clare is a great facility and I am glad my physicians are going there. All this talk about a local facility. St. Clare is still local to Washington and you see your docs locally. Now, we have an option to go to a great facility with state-of-the art equipment. SSM is known for working with physicians and employees. They can also do open heart surgery...
Larry

Macon, GA

#11 Nov 18, 2009
Most of you people have no idea what you are talking about. Patients First created this problem for themselves. They were power and money hungry and have gotten in over their heads. SJMH worked with PFHC and Terry was not lying, it was PFHC's choice. Maybe not the doctors at PF, but definitely the administration. It's ashame the the patients are the ones losing out.
Shannon

Columbia, MO

#12 Nov 18, 2009
I'm sorry Larry but I don't believe any one of us are wrong for having our own opinions!
Anonymous

United States

#13 Nov 18, 2009
Terry McLain is a complete liar. The Patient's First cardiologists DID NOT choose to leave St. John's. St. John's decided to get rid of them because they didn't want any competition. The PF doctors diligently tried to get St. John's to open their cath lab so that procedures could be done here in Washington rather than making people drive up to the "Palace on Ballas". St. John's refused. And furthermore, going to St. Clare didn't "meet their financial interests and needs". How 'bout it Terry? Would you like to explain to the community how you prevented the docs from viewing echo tapes that would help determine a patient's care? Why don't you explain how you directed your nurses to physically block a patient who wished to be transferred from your hospital (you know, the one that is really just a nursing home at this point)? Suggesting that doctors use flashlights during procedures? Yes, I saw you deny that on tv last night. But it was true. How do you sleep at night with all those lies weighing you down?
what

Saint Johnsbury, VT

#14 Nov 18, 2009
anonymous.. do you work for sjmh or pts first to back up your accusations.... indirectly i believe pts first chose this... by their actions... and they were alowed to do cardiac caths at sjmh they just couldnt pick and choose their pts like they wanted to. sjmh treats everyone that comes through their door regardless of ability to pay or anything of that nature...
Sue

Tomball, TX

#15 Nov 18, 2009
I felt that interview was all for poor Patient's First. You need to get the facts. Ask Patient's First why they have an empty building and can't find no one to fill it. The hospital let Mohart and Seeck come in and order state of the art equipment and tests. Then Patient's First greed got involved. They wanted all the profit and this would have left the hospital high and dry. So to make the hospital pay they moved alot of the testing to St. Claire. This in my book is not Patient's First but the patient is last. Lets play fair on the playground.
Steve

Jacksonville, AR

#16 Nov 18, 2009
Someone needs to ask Terri McLain what happens when an emergency comes in the ER and they have to wait 1 to 1 1/2 hours for their cardiologist to get to the hospital. At least patients first doctors are in the community and could be in the ER within a matter of minutes. What is it going to take someone to die before something happens.Also what other doctors is she planning on kicking off staff just because they chose not to be a Mercy doctor.
Steve

Jacksonville, AR

#17 Nov 18, 2009
what wrote:
anonymous.. do you work for sjmh or pts first to back up your accusations.... indirectly i believe pts first chose this... by their actions... and they were alowed to do cardiac caths at sjmh they just couldnt pick and choose their pts like they wanted to. sjmh treats everyone that comes through their door regardless of ability to pay or anything of that nature...
I know for a fact yes pts. first drs. could do cardiac caths but they wanted to do surgery here if needed so the patient did not have to transfered to the "palace on Ballas" as another person said. They did not want to lose that money for the procedure. that is the only reason they chose to become afialated with st.clare.
Steve

Jacksonville, AR

#18 Nov 18, 2009
Sue wrote:
I felt that interview was all for poor Patient's First. You need to get the facts. Ask Patient's First why they have an empty building and can't find no one to fill it. The hospital let Mohart and Seeck come in and order state of the art equipment and tests. Then Patient's First greed got involved. They wanted all the profit and this would have left the hospital high and dry. So to make the hospital pay they moved alot of the testing to St. Claire. This in my book is not Patient's First but the patient is last. Lets play fair on the playground.
For your information the building is not enmpty.They have the offices filled,but are in the process of remodeling for the new occupants.Why don't you ask Terri McLain how many empty offices she has in the drs. building connected to the hospital. I guarantee its more empty offices than pts. first has.How would you know anyway if you don't live in this area?
fred

Sullivan, MO

#19 Nov 18, 2009
there are wrongs done on both sides, but pts first is profit first. they did have the cath lab to use until they wanted to expand and it was not in the best interest to hire an interventionalist and thoracic surgeon when we have those in St. Louis. I have heard rumors that at St. Clare hospital has said when the made a deal with Dr. Mohart they made a deal with the devil. and yes no matter how well you liked you co-workers or working for a place there are reasons why everyone leaves and usually you dont leave because you are happy and everything is peachy and you never had a talking to. I admit that Terry is a more aggressive director than the previous but hey we are all born not liking our "boss". and while she cant please everone she has to please the one who matters and that is the pt.. yes our new cardiologists live in town and they are wonderful and knowledgeable.. and even though they may not "know you" a new set of eyes is what every pt needs.. and NO the hospital has not refused to pay for tests it is cheaper and people were warned that some tests at other facilities may not be covered... ignorance is no excuse. If you work for them then you must support them.. I mean the money eventually comes back to you if you are earning a paycheck from them.. it will all work out and I feel better now that we have had some time to get used to the idea that one day this all would come the separation... but people do have a choice.. the nurses are the same we are here to care for the pts..
also a note Dr. Seeck had said, "that if a new dr. had seen his pt that they may not know the little stuff about the pt and how to adequately treat that pt." but in reality ALL the other Drs. with pts first tag team their pts and the pts see a different everyday they are in the hospital so there is no difference.. either you are with the hospital or you are against it.. you have choices.. God Bless SJMH
Bereaved Parent

Warrenton, MO

#20 Nov 18, 2009
So in the mean time if you have a very serrious heart condition and end up in the ER in Washington, you will be paying for the air lift ride. Why Because there new doctors have not set up their part time practices yet, that's still one of those little things that need to be done yet. Problem is that we as a community are the ones who suffer here. There's also the reason it's called Little St. John's - they transfer anyone to "specialist" in a heartbeat to the Palace on Ballas.

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