confused..living in Wyoming..

confused..living in Wyoming..

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c-los

Taylors, SC

#1 Jan 24, 2007
I am confused..I have been lurking here for a week or so..Interested in Wyoming and what it's like to live there..have been reading a post dedicated to that subject. Everything I have seen and read looks pretty good. I checked out Wyoming lately, because I am interested in getting back to country living..I grew up in a small rural area here in South Carolina..always enjoyed the life..When I grew up I moved closer to city..greenville (where I live) is about 250,000 people or so. Lately, I have gotten a little cynical in my old age (35 y.o. now)..anyway, I know that Wyoming has a very low population density..so I decided to see what it's like..Started doing some searches online..Came across this board and took a look. Everything sounds pretty good..I'd have to get used to the winter as we do not really have one here. It has not been below 30 this year to the best of my recollection. That is one thing I like about the South.
Anyway, this all leads me to a question..Everything sounds good about wyoming, so why is it that no one lives there.? Seems weird to me. You have wide open spaces..mountains, plains, small cities, low unemployment, low poverty rate, etc. So why are people not flocking there like sheep.?
I looked at Montana also..same general question..Only, I think Montana has more of a poverty rate than Wyoming..
Anyway, does anyone have an idea about that.? Does seem like job market is limited though..I did a search for my profession (architecture) and did not see anything online for Wyoming. Looks like most jobs are in mining, tourism, Engineering (as associated with mining), etc. Could that be a reason for the lack of population.?
I don't really have any answers..and that is fine..If I could find employment there, then I don't really care that no one is moving there..that is what interested me in the first place..less people=less problems as far as I am concerned..being inquisitive is sometimes my downfall..My wife thinks I am a weirdo for even thinking/asking about these things..

Since: Jan 07

Rock Springs, Wyoming

#2 Jan 28, 2007
I understand your dilema. When we told people we were moving to Wyoming, everyone said the same thing, "Wyoming?" as if they had never heard of the place before. I don't know why people aren't flocking to Wyoming, but I am glad they aren't. I would hate to see it developed like Illinois, where, for nearly 100 miles from Chicago there is nothing but houses towns and stores. We went back at Christmas, and I felt claustrophobic standing outside at the park! Maybe it is because people like to say they want to get away from it all, but this place really is away from it all. Maybe too much for some people to handle.
Wonderful Wyoming

United States

#3 Feb 1, 2007
Wyoming is truly wonderful. I have moved away twice and missed it almost immediately. I think people just don't realize that Wyoming is more than Yellowstone Park. We are a large state, low population, friendly people. However, there are large stretches of "nothing" You can drive for hundreds of miles without seeing a city. Most people say they want to get away from it all, but this may be a bit too much. Our winters, until this year, have not been bad. Of course I am typing this while it is -10 with a wind chill of -30. So you have to be willing to deal with occasional fridged weather. The wind also seems to drive a lot of people crazy. I think that you start to get used to it after awhile (I have lived here a total of 25 years). Jobs can be difficult to find and the pay is not as high as the larger cities in other states. Health care is okay, depending on where you live. We do not have a state tax, and currently we do not have tax on food (this is before legislature right now). Property tax is okay depending on where you live. In Cheyenne the current housing market is quite high. Our crime rate is VERY low. I believe we were ranked number 3 or 4 as far as lowest rate (North Dakota had the lowest) One big problem in Wyoming, and most of the country, is the meth problem. Wyoming does have serious meth problems.

I am probably rambling now, so I will close it out. Wyoming is truly wonderful!
schmoo joe

Denver, CO

#4 Feb 8, 2007
The meth problem is overblown. More kids in the state are using inhalants than meth. Meth is a problem but nothing compared to alcohol and other substance abuse problems.
north dakota

Rapid City, SD

#5 Feb 13, 2007
hey ,,, look up the gillette police dept. look at the crime listing,, lots of crimes there .
i cant believe they dont get caught.
i want to go to college there but not sure abouot the crime thing.. read the crime list, you'll be amazed. later peeps...
in dubois

Dubois, WY

#6 Feb 14, 2007
c-los, your research is probably fairly accurate in that the economy is fairly narrow (drilling/mining, tourism, ranching) The unemployment rate is possibly the lowest in the nation, but so is the total population.
north dakota, do you want to go to college in Gillette? Crime varies around the state, and should really be checked specifically where you want to go.
Gillette can't get enough people to work in coal mines and related support so many newcomers in recent years havce brought crime with them from Rust Belt cities.(also there is a severe housing shortage in Gillette)
BlueMerle

United States

#7 Feb 16, 2007
in dubois, If you don't mind I'd like to know what the situations is in Dubois regarding Housing and employment.

I have been considering a move to Wyoming and Dubois is on the short list. It's just hard to get any real info.

Thanks
Just My Own Opinion

Farson, WY

#8 Feb 18, 2007
schmoo joe wrote:
The meth problem is overblown. More kids in the state are using inhalants than meth. Meth is a problem but nothing compared to alcohol and other substance abuse problems.
WOW! I'm not sure where you live? But, come out from under the rock! Meth is one of the worst problems in Wyoming right now! I am in a position to see this on a daily basis. The number of drug labs here now is beyond your belief. Maybe you should look up Meth on the internet. Or better yet, go to a class. You would definitely come away with a new awareness. Do you realize a meth lab in a nice little rental house can be a health hazard for whoever occupies that residence for years after. Actually it should be condemned for health reasons, but are they? No, need a place for your kids to live?

Just My Own Opinion

Farson, WY

#9 Feb 18, 2007
Wake Up Schmoo Joe,

Meth has exploded. Do you realize that a DUI isn't just alcohol. So, all those DUI's of record could easily be DRUGS. DUI stands for Driving Under The Influence. Under the influence of what depends.

Meth is the feel good drug of this generation. I could but wish that it were as lethal as alcohol. Alcohol for the most people doesn't grab a hold and not let go. You can go have a drink and know that it isn't going to consume your every thought for the rest of your life. And it won't destroy your children because they are living in the home too. And I said for most people. There are always the extremes (alcoholics). Meth is not so forgiving!
Just My Own Opinion

Farson, WY

#10 Feb 18, 2007
Don't get me wrong. Wyoming is a great place to live. But, let's be real. It has the same problems that every state has!! We are no better nor worse than any other. Just please don't sugar coat it. Tell it like it is. Because we don't have the population that other states have we may just not have as much of it. But nevertheless the same problems.
my two cents

Casper, WY

#11 Feb 21, 2007
I have just recently moved back here from Nevada. My Husband and I were so excited to get back here. The economy was booming and there was so many jobs that we could be very picky. I love Wyomings little towns and the friendly people.( I don't think you really appreciate this until you leave the state for a while.) Anyway I would say the only major problem Wyoming has at the moment is housing. Since our pay scale is only average (and I am speaking more industrial types jobs such as coal mining, construction and oil field since that is what my husband does) I can not believe how expensive housing is. That is the only problem we have encountered is finding affordable housing! Trying to rent a three bedroom house in Casper, Douglas, Gillette or Wyoming that is somewhat affordable is impossible! Other than that I love Wyoming!
coolmom

Mechanicsburg, PA

#12 Feb 21, 2007
c-los wrote:
I am confused..I have been lurking here for a week or so..Interested in Wyoming and what it's like to live there..have been reading a post dedicated to that subject. Everything I have seen and read looks pretty good. I checked out Wyoming lately, because I am interested in getting back to country living..I grew up in a small rural area here in South Carolina..always enjoyed the life..When I grew up I moved closer to city..greenville (where I live) is about 250,000 people or so. Lately, I have gotten a little cynical in my old age (35 y.o. now)..anyway, I know that Wyoming has a very low population density..so I decided to see what it's like..Started doing some searches online..Came across this board and took a look. Everything sounds pretty good..I'd have to get used to the winter as we do not really have one here. It has not been below 30 this year to the best of my recollection. That is one thing I like about the South.
Anyway, this all leads me to a question..Everything sounds good about wyoming, so why is it that no one lives there.? Seems weird to me. You have wide open spaces..mountains, plains, small cities, low unemployment, low poverty rate, etc. So why are people not flocking there like sheep.?
I looked at Montana also..same general question..Only, I think Montana has more of a poverty rate than Wyoming..
Anyway, does anyone have an idea about that.? Does seem like job market is limited though..I did a search for my profession (architecture) and did not see anything online for Wyoming. Looks like most jobs are in mining, tourism, Engineering (as associated with mining), etc. Could that be a reason for the lack of population.?
I don't really have any answers..and that is fine..If I could find employment there, then I don't really care that no one is moving there..that is what interested me in the first place..less people=less problems as far as I am concerned..being inquisitive is sometimes my downfall..My wife thinks I am a weirdo for even thinking/asking about these things..
I think people don't flock to wyoming because they would have to do things for themselves. there is no one nearby to do it for them. I am in Pennsylvania right now and it amazes me how stupid and lazy people are. They would rather wait for the snow to melt than pick up a shovel.
KPM1642

Missoula, MT

#13 Feb 24, 2007
Yes Wyoming is a good place to live. The boom and bust of the extractive industries in the state do cause housing prices in Gillette, Rock Springs and casper to rise considerably. But the contraction takes place in towns like Hanna where Uranium is not being mined any longer.

Tourism and wealth makes places like Jackson very pricy.

Cheyenne is dealing with growth because of proximity to transportation ( I80, I25, Railroad) and Denver being 99 miles away. No state income tax attracts commuters from Denver and the surrounding metro area. Property taxes are low in relation to other states. Job opportunities are somewhat limited outside of the extractive industries(mining and energy).

Climate almost constant wind drives some people crazy but gives us the cleanest air in America. Isolation is high in relation to most other states. Once you get off the interstates you can be alone in minutes.

Not a bad place to raise a family.

The education system here is paid for almost exclusively by mineral royalties.

Health care is difficult because of isolation and realtively limited opportunities for medical professionals.

I have left twice and come back. The American dream is to live in a small town and feel safe. Here you can.

I cannot speak to the meth problem as I have no experience with it.

Outside of the state government the largest employer in the state is the F E Warren AFB. Many smaller companies here with positive futures.

Winters can be long if your not use to them, but the spring, summer and fall make you want to stay.

Natural beauty everywhere.

1 4 year college UW but education is becoming much more of an internet product anyway. Community colleges are in most places.

I'm staying!
forrest chambers

United States

#14 Feb 24, 2007
RSWY Jonathan wrote:
I understand your dilema. When we told people we were moving to Wyoming, everyone said the same thing, "Wyoming?" as if they had never heard of the place before. I don't know why people aren't flocking to Wyoming, but I am glad they aren't. I would hate to see it developed like Illinois, where, for nearly 100 miles from Chicago there is nothing but houses towns and stores. We went back at Christmas, and I felt claustrophobic standing outside at the park! Maybe it is because people like to say they want to get away from it all, but this place really is away from it all. Maybe too much for some people to handle.
My wife and I live in Laramie and I can tell you why the population is so low. The state and local governments want to keep good businesses out and wages low. It is a good place to live; we love it here, but good jobs are tough to come by and the cost of living is above average in comparison to wages.
George

AOL

#16 Mar 1, 2007
She asked me how it went, I said fine.
keepscallingmyna me

Plymouth, NH

#17 Mar 1, 2007
I too have a fascination with Wyoming. Don't need a job as I work on the internet and can live anywhere I can get broadband. Love nature and outdoors and don't mind the cold, grew up in WI.
Is Cody a nice place to live? What about Sheridan?
Any info on reasonable housing and access to stores and access to broadband would be appreciated. I am someone who likes to have a Walmart nearby, too. Also, are the people nice, friendly and helpful, i.e. western hospitality alive and well?
nameless in WA

Post Falls, ID

#18 Mar 8, 2007
I was born and raised in Rock Springs, WY. It's cold and there isn't much for young folks or old folks to do. But I love Wyoming. I love every barren wild inch of it. I live in Washington now and have for almost seven years. But I always think about the serenity I felt (feel) when I was (am) down there visiting. Wyoming is a great place, you just have to have the right kind of mind set to live there. You have to step back and live life a little bit slower there.
Tom

Victorville, CA

#19 Mar 9, 2007
I ive in southern California,but I have a summer home in the Black Hills of north east Wyoming.This is off the beaten path even for Wyoming.
My family is from the state and my dad is retired there.He gets very good health care from the medicare system because so few people are there to use it.His Doctor actually calls to see how he is doing!Would that ever happen in California?When I retire I will pack my bags and happily move to my summer home Year round.
Wyoming Native

Sacramento, CA

#20 Mar 10, 2007
I am a Wyoming native but have been living in Scramento, CA for 17 years. When I moved here, Sacramento was often referred to as the meth capitol due to the rampant problems with this drug. It breaks my heart that this terrible drug has become a problem in Wyoming. Maybe the Wyoming police departments should send some of their people to California to learn about what was done here to curb these problems. There is still meth here but it is not like it was.
Wyoming Native

Sacramento, CA

#21 Mar 10, 2007
By the way, I love the big wonderful and will go there to visit whenever I have an opportunity but I really do not think I will ever return. The state is beautiful and the people are great, but the weather is extreme and the opportunities for education, employment, ect are just not there and I hope it never is. Because with these things come people and the best part of Wyoming is the open country and scarce population.

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