Some States May Require Random Drug T...

Some States May Require Random Drug Tests for People Receiving ...

There are 26 comments on the FindingDulcinea story from Mar 28, 2009, titled Some States May Require Random Drug Tests for People Receiving .... In it, FindingDulcinea reports that:

Some states propose cutting public assistance benefits for drug users. Will mandatory drug tests become law? Welfare and Drug Abuse As the number of people receiving welfare, food stamps and unemployment compensation increases, the state legislatures of West Virginia and at least 7 other states are proposing legislation requiring recipients to take ...

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Since: Dec 08

Corning, CA

#1 Mar 29, 2009
IMO I think this is a good idea. I know that when there has been sweeps in my county there was a good percentage of the welfae recipients brought in that were positive for drugs. These were parents with children that were using the money for drugs instead of feeding their children.

I am subjected to random testing in my career field so should it be any different for recipients of government programs? I would think that the government could get a special pricing discount on the rapid tests and hire a lab tech/nurse to run it. If the recipient fails then you can do a send out.

Hemet, CA

#2 Mar 29, 2009
Here is what that future sounds like:

"Congress is considering adding Nicotine as a banned substance for welfare recipients, as an anonymous staffer said,'if the can afford the luxury of cigarettes, they don't need benefits'.

...also in welfare benefits discussion,
should the monthly ration of alcohol be raised to one one liter...."

United States

#3 Mar 31, 2009
As the number of people receiving welfare, food stamps and unemployment compensation increases, the state legislatures of West Virginia and at least 7 other states are proposing legislation requiring recipients to take random drug tests.
we this done in el paso,tx

Norfolk, VA

#4 Apr 6, 2009

“Results, one vote at a time!”

Since: Dec 06

Oklahoma City, OK

#5 Apr 7, 2009
I have thought long and hard about this issue since it was first brought up to me by a gentleman with whom I talk politics regularly.

I'm not a big fan of drug testing as I think it's an invasion of privacy, but I understand its necessity. If an airline pilot is shooting up in the cockpit and has the plane on autopilot, then, by all that's holy, please catch him and remove him from his duties.

Receiving assistance is hard on some people. I have had to do so in the past and it absolutely was the most embarrassing thing I've ever had to do. I think assistance should be available as there are many cases where it is truly necessary. I don't want children to starve because of some ideological opposition to welfare. Opinions should not trump whether a child eats. Ever.

That being said, I think drug testing should be performed for those accepting assistance. For anyone who comes up positive, I think they should be given assistance for one month and referred to free drug counseling programs. If the recipient does not follow the drug program or tests positive, then all assistance stops. If that person has children, then DHS should be notified so they can intervene and make sure the children are cared for on a moments notice. There should be policies and procedures in place that will allow for the person to reattain custody if all requirements are met.

The problem I see with this is the one that plagues all such programs: MONEY!!! Who will run the testing program? Who will insure that all procedures are followed? Who will do follow-up on individual cases? The logistics would be a nightmare, but they are doable. They would just have to be implemented very, very carefully and diligently as we would be dealing with people's lives.

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Oct 20, 2009
Drug tests will be ineffective because when you have a free medical card you can claim you have chronic pain and a doctor will prescribe you the narcotics you need or want. My brother quit his job to live on welfare he was healthy but the day he quit his job he qualified for general assistance, He lied to collect cash and I reported him, no punishment just stopped sending him cash. Thank god he could google doctors because when Rochester mayo clinic refused to operate on his back. He seriously had to shop for doctors because for the first year and a half most specialists kept referring him to see a shrink. They were concerned he was a drug addict. Welfare does not care that the first ten doctors think all you need is a shrink and that you have to drive out of state to find a doctor who will operate on you. He actually did not care that he got busted on the cash assistance fraud because his ticket to spending every day partying and neglecting his kids came with his medical card! His big dream is to collect social security. The problem with that is social security had doctors look him over head to toe and he was healthy. They also noticed his job history which he only worked every other year and he only got a job because he was in-danger of going to jail for not paying child support. Well as long as he keeps getting doctors notes he can stay on welfare and not go to jail for not paying child support. He stopped seeing his kids because he meets people on line to get high with and drunk with every day. My brother actually upgraded from pot he could barely afford to narcotics prescribed by a doctor.

New Bern, NC

#8 Feb 25, 2010
I think this is a violation of our civil rights. I can understand employers to drug test for insurance purposes, but the government assistance programs come on now. If the people were not in need than they surly wouldn't go through the bull**** of getting it. You go through a hell of a time every time you go to the welfare office.

Montgomery, AL

#9 Feb 26, 2010
I get drug tested. My taxes go towards those receiving these benifits. They should be drug tested as well. End of discussion.

Montgomery, AL

#10 Feb 26, 2010
Yes, welfare recipients should be drug tested. And, those that are able bodied should also have to perform some sort of public service to receive their benefits. Pick up trash, clean grafitti, something. The U.S. is fast becoming a welfare state. Wouldn't it be nice for the taxpayers funding these programs to actually get something for their money?

United States

#11 Apr 8, 2010
I think that in order to pass a drug test law for people who get government assistance is violating our civil rights. we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and that is not only our civil rights but God given. however, with that being said i feel that people who use drugs at taxpayers expense should be outed and done something with to prevent this. This means Gov't officials who recieve pension funds and taxpayer money to represent them that are using illegal controlled and prescribed substances including alcohol. leave the poor people alone who are trying to get ahead in this world, make marijuana legal, and stop taking my hard earned money to fund golf tournaments, boating adventures,and private dances for these people who want to drug test for stat and federal assistance while using tax dollars to snort up cocaine and take oxycotin for the s's and g's of it.

Broken Arrow, OK

#12 Apr 8, 2010
The only place drug tests should be legal is in the work place.

Owatonna, MN

#13 Apr 13, 2010

Broken Arrow, OK

#14 Apr 13, 2010
This is just another waste of tax payers money.

Owatonna, MN

#15 Apr 14, 2010
I agree with you because there is another alternitive to drug testing, for example my brother quit his job and went down to welfare and qualified, he qualified because he lied about how long he had been unemployed there is a 12 month waiting period. THEY NEVER CHECKED TO VERIFY. He quit his job to get welfare but that does not matter because THERE IS NO LAW THAT SAYS YOU CANT QUIT YOUR JOB. He claimed he was homeless to qualify and gave them an adress he has lived at for the last 10 years. THEY NEVER CHECKED TO VERIFY!I turned him in for fraud and it took 3 seperate calls and me drawing a map through his house before they stopped sending him cash. The welfare people just need to do there job and stop working on an honor system

High Springs, FL

#16 Feb 21, 2013
Drug testing west virginia

CHARLESTON, W.Va.(AP)Ė A bill proposed in the West Virginia House of Delegates would require three separate drug tests before teenagers could get a driverís license. It is the latest in a string of proposals to expand government-mandated drug testing in the state.

The bill introduced Tuesday would require potential drivers to pass a drug test before they receive a learnerís permit, an intermediate license and a full license.

No doubt the introduced drug testing laws are to support drug testing labs at the cost of the taxpayer dollars and for expansion of the drug rehabilitation centers for the Mental Health Industry who created the problem in the first place for the Republican ALEC investors. When a driver's license is up for renewal, he/she can be called in at any time, six months prior to the expiration date, for random drug testing. If the driver fails, he/she loses his or her license and must go to drug rehab at their own expense (or at taxpayer expense, if the driver makes under a certain income level) to get it back. The rehab centers would be private facilities with government contracts.

There are violations like in the Florida, South Carolina proposals of the Constitution by the Republicans. The Florida REPUBLICAN Governor owned ( prior to his political office ) a drug testing lab , that was passed down to wife. The South Carolina Republican Governor attempted to lie to the states people that the operators of their nuclear electrical plant failed the drug testing to gain leverage on passing the bill.

Lots of horse manure in the violation of Constitutional provisions
Rational Tulsans

Tulsa, OK

#17 Feb 21, 2013
Good idea. Include alcohol in the mix, and corporate welfare recipients.

“too busy lookin' good!”

Since: Jan 13

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#18 Feb 21, 2013
Rational Tulsans wrote:
Good idea. Include alcohol in the mix, and corporate welfare recipients.
Include crack for those in your community.
White Knight

Tulsa, OK

#19 Feb 21, 2013
Rational Tulsans wrote:
Good idea. Include alcohol in the mix, and corporate welfare recipients.
As well as all people holding any type of political or public office.

High Springs, FL

#20 Feb 21, 2013
Violating the Constitution should be interesting.
White Knight

Tulsa, OK

#21 Feb 21, 2013
If this doesn't make the hair on the back of your neck stand up, you are not understanding the real problem in this country.

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