Should people who get welfare/ssi be ...

Should people who get welfare/ssi be drug tested?

Created by Proud American on Jul 20, 2008

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#189 Nov 8, 2012
Florida drug testingis just like the other states.
Florida drug testing
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"Welfare drug testing" refers only to TANF parents of TANF children (TANF = cash assistance), it is not an entitlement program.
It violates federal law to drug test for food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, other welfare programs.
The case of Florida is often cited by liberals,(with much misinformation) and a fine example of what occurs with current federal laws.
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Beginning in July 2011, Florida began requiring adults who were otherwise eligible for welfare cash assistance to submit a negative drug test before receiving benefits. Since the program has been in effect for a full quarter, this report looks at the state’s experience during these first three months, and updates projections of the law’s likely fiscal impact during the first full year of operation. The program is currently subject to a lawsuit in federal court filed by the ACLU of Florida challenging the constitutionality of this requirement, which is explicitly allowed by federal law.
FIRST QUARTER RESULTS
• 48% drop in cash assistance approvals since drug test requirement
The impact of drug testing for welfare cash assistance is having a dramatic impact on approvals for cash assistance. Approvals for September 2011 (for cash assistance applicants for eligible adults subject to the drug testing requirement) were 62 percent lower than September 2010 and 48 percent lower than in June 2011, the month before the drug testing requirement took effect.
This reduction is exclusive to cash assistance. Food Stamps and Medicaid approvals are consistent with levels seen throughout 2010 and to date in 2011.
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In the first quarter, 7,028 applicants completed the drug test and tested negative for drug use, completing their eligibility requirements for welfare cash assistance. Of these 7,028 approved applicants, only 2,163 adults (from 1,971 families) requested and received reimbursement for their drug testing fees. That means just 28 percent of approved applicants have requested and received reimbursement in the first quarter. Average reimbursement per adult is $26.78 with a total of $57,920.95 in testing fees reimbursed.
http://www.floridafga.org/2011/10/floridas-dr...
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"In the last line they (newspapers) do admit that there are about 800 and some people who refuse to take the drug test," he said, "which tells me if you add 'em all together there's 1,000 people out there on drugs. Nine out of ten of them are smart enough not to take the drug test."
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Who started their application but didn’t take the test: Kreegel said 800 or so people walked away before taking the drug test. The department reported a number nearly three times as high -- 2,306.
We asked the department if it had any way to know why people didn’t take the test.
"There is no way to determine why someone did not take the test," said Joe Follick, DCF spokesman. "We did not have the capacity or legal authority to survey each applicant's decision-making process."
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/...
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In May 2011, the Florida Legislature passed and Governor Rick Scott signed into law HB 353 requiring applicants for Temporary Cash Assistance (TCA, Florida’s TANF program) to have a negative drug test before receiving cash benefits. Federal welfare reform legislation signed by President Clinton in 1996 specifically allows states such discretion. Florida’s DCF implemented the drug testing requirement on July 1, 2011. On September 7, 2011, the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida announced a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the new law.
http://www.floridafga.org/2011/09/the-impact-...

Since: Mar 13

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#190 Mar 25, 2013
Coal Country Gal wrote:
I agree that any person recieving financial asistance from the government should be drug tested.
I also agree that any person who is able-bodied enough , should certainly work! Sometimes, we have to make sacrifices for our families in order to make a decent life for them. There are many people who work two jobs to support their family. These may be minimum wage jobs, but by golly they get up and go to work for that pay! A decent person wants to make life better for their children. A person working for their minimum wage pays his or her taxes the same as any other person. I, myself would be more willing to help a person who is helping themselves, rather than give my money toward someone who chooses to stay home and collect a monthly check!
You know who else should be tested? Let's start with politicians, then add teachers, farmers, truck drivers, heavy equipment operators, construction workers, school administrators, DOH workers. How about a drug test, before anyone is allowed to use a car or get on the internet? Once we know who is on drugs, let's get them treatment. Jail does not cure drug use.
blant

Saltville, VA

#191 Mar 28, 2013
who cares.. drugs are awesome they shouldn't even be illegal..
blant

Saltville, VA

#192 Mar 28, 2013
you should complain and have prohibition rally like when alcohol was illegal..
blant

Saltville, VA

#193 Mar 28, 2013
drugs are as bad for you as ciggarettes and alcohol.. with drugs being illegal people kill themselves on the legal stuff anyway..

it tricks people into believing that the legal stuff is safe...

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