Wisconsin lawmakers approve bill requiring ultrasound before abortion

Jun 14, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Fox News

The state Assembly has approved a Republican bill that would require women seeking an abortion to get an ultrasound of the fetus.

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No, zeffy, motherhood is still an OPTION, which any woman can reject for any reason. The "state of being" only applies to a woman who WANTS to be a mother.
Not YOUR pregnancy? Not your decision. Simple.
What you are has nothing to do with what you want. Motherhood is what you are. And what you are is your state of being. Motherhood is a state of being. Motherhood is not an option.

Material objects are persisting three-dimensional individuals wholly present at every moment of their existence, this conception of an individual as always present. The State of Being is not a state of ‘having been’ or ‘will become.’ Atman, the Self, the Soul, is not a ‘has been’ or ‘want-to-be’. Your Real Self is not what you think you were in the past, or want to be in the future—nor is it what you think you are now. You are simply what you are. That is the pure state of ‘is-ness’, the pure State of Being. The thinking mind is not the Self. Now, if the 'to be' of a thing could be conceived apart from that which exists, it should be represented in our mind by some note distinct from the concept of the thing itself .... In point of fact, it is not so. There is nothing we can add to a concept in order to make it represent the object as existing; what happens if we add anything to it is that it represents something else. We imagine ourselves to be something we are not, but we are always who we really are, and not who we have imagined ourselves to be. The law of identity states that: "each thing is the same with itself and different from another": "A is A and not ~A". By this it is meant that each thing (be it a universal or a particular) is composed of its own unique set of characteristic qualities or features, which the ancient Greeks called its essence. Consequently, things that have the same essence are the same thing, while things that have different essences are different things.

A central proposition of existentialism is that existence precedes essence, which means that the most important consideration for the individual is the fact that he or she is an individual—an independently acting and responsible conscious being ("existence")—rather than what labels, roles, stereotypes, definitions, or other preconceived categories the individual fits ("essence"). The actual life of the individual is what constitutes what could be called his or her "true essence" instead of there being an arbitrarily attributed essence used by others to define him or her. Thus, human beings, through their own consciousness, create their own values and determine a meaning to their life. It is often claimed in this context that a person defines himself or herself, which is often perceived as stating that they can wish to be something—anything, a bird, for instance—and then be it. According to most existentialist philosophers, however, this would constitute an inauthentic existence. The notion of the Absurd contains the idea that there is no meaning to be found in the world beyond what meaning we give to it. This meaninglessness also encompasses the amorality or "unfairness" of the world. Because of the world's absurdity, at any point in time, anything can happen to anyone, and a tragic event could plummet someone into direct confrontation with the Absurd.
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motherhood n.
1. The state of being a mother.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/motherhood
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http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2012/10/study-...

Study Shows More Women Are Childless and Happy, So Why The Pressure to have Kids?

October 19, 2012 by "Clutch"

Although it’s a hard pill for some to swallow, the reality is not every woman wants children. There are women who live a full, rewarding and fulfilling life without ever having given birth.

A new study, published in The Journal of Marriage and Family, scientifically supports this truth. It found that although women may feel social pressure to reproduce, those who don’t show little distress about their lifestyle. The takeaway? It is very possible to be childless and happy.

Still, despite the study’s findings, most women feel compelled to have children and beat their “biological clock” due to social constructs. Generally, when we see an adult woman without children, we are socialized to pity her. Assumptions are made about her reproductive abilities (it can’t be that she’s simply chosen not to have children). She’s seen as lacking substance and purpose in her life, as she’s never had that the privilege of being called a mother. These assessments are unfair. A woman’s worth is not just her ability to give birth.

Motherhood is indeed a beautiful thing, but it ain’t for everybody. And women shouldn’t be made to feel inadequate if they don’t choose to bear children, especially when, as the study proves, they can be completely fulfilled and content with their lifestyle without kids. Now that science has caught on, hopefully, the rest of society will too.
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zef wrote:
What you are has nothing to do with what you want. Motherhood is what you are. And what you are is your state of being. Motherhood is a state of being. Motherhood is not an option.
Motherhood IS an option, which many women DON'T want any part of. Whether you accept that or not, it's the truth nonetheless.

Not YOUR pregnancy? Not your decision. Simple.
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Motherhood IS an option, which many women DON'T want any part of. Whether you accept that or not, it's the truth nonetheless.
Not YOUR pregnancy? Not your decision. Simple.
A woman either is a mother. Or a woman is not a mother. What a woman is is her state of being. A woman can choose options that could cause her to become a mother. And while their are options to becoming a mother, being a mother is not an option, because motherhood is the state of being a mother.

Material objects are persisting three-dimensional individuals wholly present at every moment of their existence, this conception of an individual as always present. The State of Being is not a state of ‘having been’ or ‘will become.’ Atman, the Self, the Soul, is not a ‘has been’ or ‘want-to-be’. Your Real Self is not what you think you were in the past, or want to be in the future—nor is it what you think you are now. You are simply what you are. That is the pure state of ‘is-ness’, the pure State of Being. The thinking mind is not the Self. Now, if the 'to be' of a thing could be conceived apart from that which exists, it should be represented in our mind by some note distinct from the concept of the thing itself .... In point of fact, it is not so. There is nothing we can add to a concept in order to make it represent the object as existing; what happens if we add anything to it is that it represents something else. We imagine ourselves to be something we are not, but we are always who we really are, and not who we have imagined ourselves to be. The law of identity states that: "each thing is the same with itself and different from another": "A is A and not ~A". By this it is meant that each thing (be it a universal or a particular) is composed of its own unique set of characteristic qualities or features, which the ancient Greeks called its essence. Consequently, things that have the same essence are the same thing, while things that have different essences are different things.

A central proposition of existentialism is that existence precedes essence, which means that the most important consideration for the individual is the fact that he or she is an individual—an independently acting and responsible conscious being ("existence")—rather than what labels, roles, stereotypes, definitions, or other preconceived categories the individual fits ("essence"). The actual life of the individual is what constitutes what could be called his or her "true essence" instead of there being an arbitrarily attributed essence used by others to define him or her. Thus, human beings, through their own consciousness, create their own values and determine a meaning to their life. It is often claimed in this context that a person defines himself or herself, which is often perceived as stating that they can wish to be something—anything, a bird, for instance—and then be it. According to most existentialist philosophers, however, this would constitute an inauthentic existence. The notion of the Absurd contains the idea that there is no meaning to be found in the world beyond what meaning we give to it. This meaninglessness also encompasses the amorality or "unfairness" of the world. Because of the world's absurdity, at any point in time, anything can happen to anyone, and a tragic event could plummet someone into direct confrontation with the Absurd.
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motherhood
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1. the state of being a mother; maternity.
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A woman either is a mother. Or a woman is not a mother. What a woman is is her state of being. A woman can choose options that could cause her to become a mother. And while their are options to becoming a mother, being a mother is not an option, because motherhood is the state of being a mother.
Your idiotic BELIEF, which is hardly a fact. But hey, you're free to believe whatever nonsense you want. Thank goodness I don't have to believe the same idiocy you do.

If a woman chooses NOT to be a mother, then motherhood is NOT her "state of being," even if you are too dense to get that.
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Your idiotic BELIEF, which is hardly a fact. But hey, you're free to believe whatever nonsense you want. Thank goodness I don't have to believe the same idiocy you do.
If a woman chooses NOT to be a mother, then motherhood is NOT her "state of being," even if you are too dense to get that.
Whatever a woman chooses has nothing to do what her state of being is. Only what a woman is is her state of being. Motherhood is a state of being, regardless of what a woman chooses to do, until she becomes something other than a mother. A state of being is never an option. Motherhood is always a state of being.

Material objects are persisting three-dimensional individuals wholly present at every moment of their existence, this conception of an individual as always present. The State of Being is not a state of ‘having been’ or ‘will become.’ Atman, the Self, the Soul, is not a ‘has been’ or ‘want-to-be’. Your Real Self is not what you think you were in the past, or want to be in the future—nor is it what you think you are now. You are simply what you are. That is the pure state of ‘is-ness’, the pure State of Being. The thinking mind is not the Self. Now, if the 'to be' of a thing could be conceived apart from that which exists, it should be represented in our mind by some note distinct from the concept of the thing itself .... In point of fact, it is not so. There is nothing we can add to a concept in order to make it represent the object as existing; what happens if we add anything to it is that it represents something else. We imagine ourselves to be something we are not, but we are always who we really are, and not who we have imagined ourselves to be. The law of identity states that: "each thing is the same with itself and different from another": "A is A and not ~A". By this it is meant that each thing (be it a universal or a particular) is composed of its own unique set of characteristic qualities or features, which the ancient Greeks called its essence. Consequently, things that have the same essence are the same thing, while things that have different essences are different things.

A central proposition of existentialism is that existence precedes essence, which means that the most important consideration for the individual is the fact that he or she is an individual—an independently acting and responsible conscious being ("existence")—rather than what labels, roles, stereotypes, definitions, or other preconceived categories the individual fits ("essence"). The actual life of the individual is what constitutes what could be called his or her "true essence" instead of there being an arbitrarily attributed essence used by others to define him or her. Thus, human beings, through their own consciousness, create their own values and determine a meaning to their life. It is often claimed in this context that a person defines himself or herself, which is often perceived as stating that they can wish to be something—anything, a bird, for instance—and then be it. According to most existentialist philosophers, however, this would constitute an inauthentic existence. The notion of the Absurd contains the idea that there is no meaning to be found in the world beyond what meaning we give to it. This meaninglessness also encompasses the amorality or "unfairness" of the world. Because of the world's absurdity, at any point in time, anything can happen to anyone, and a tragic event could plummet someone into direct confrontation with the Absurd.
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motherhood
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the state or time of being a mother
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Whatever a woman chooses has nothing to do what her state of being is. Only what a woman is is her state of being. Motherhood is a state of being, regardless of what a woman chooses to do, until she becomes something other than a mother. A state of being is never an option. Motherhood is always a state of being.
Again, NONSENSE. Motherhood is an OPTION, nothing more or less, and any woman can opt OUT of motherhood, either by using contraception to prevent it or abortion to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

Motherhood: OPTIONAL, not required. Get over it.
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Again, NONSENSE. Motherhood is an OPTION, nothing more or less, and any woman can opt OUT of motherhood, either by using contraception to prevent it or abortion to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
Motherhood: OPTIONAL, not required. Get over it.
Motherhood is not an option, motherhood is a state of being. An individual either is a mother, or an individual is not a mother.

motherhood
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Again, NONSENSE. Motherhood is an OPTION, nothing more or less, and any woman can opt OUT of motherhood, either by using contraception to prevent it or abortion to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
Motherhood: OPTIONAL, not required. Get over it.
Becoming a mother is optional. Once you are one (motherhood), you can't opt out.

I think that's what zef's trying to explain. He's saying that the slogan is technically incorrect. Motherhood is the state of being a mother, so once you're at "motherhood", it's not optional.

For what it's worth.
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Come now, and I will tell you, and you, hearing, preserve the story,
the only routes of inquiry there are for thinking;
the one that it is and that it cannot not be
is the path of Persuasion (for it attends upon truth)
the other, that it is not and that it is right that it not be,
this I point out to you is a path wholly inscrutable
for you could not know what is not (for it is not to be accomplished)
nor could you point it out… For the same thing is for thinking and for being.

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