'The War Is Not Over'

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept. Full Story
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285600 Nov 28, 2012
Tinka wrote:
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A Bar beer and peanuts...:) Thank you Lord!!
And thanks for the weed too...
I do not drink or smoke but the peanuts seem OK.

Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285601 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
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How about we just appropriate less for the guvmint...appropriate less for aid to other countries, especially those who dispise us, appropriate less for failed programs...etc..
Obumble's new sogan for the next 4 years...Spare change you can count on...spend more tax more
I agree cut foreign aid. cut corporate welfare, cut tax loopholes that are only in place to benefit the 0.1% of the wealthy, ie Wall Street, AT&T, Exxon/Mobil et cetera.

Then audit the Pentagon with $Billions and $Billions of waste and fraud.

Social Security is solvent and does not add one dime to the deficit.

The wealthiest got a free ride with the Bush tax cuts and now is the time to raise them.

Bush is the only president in American history that did not raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That is un american IMO.
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285602 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
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Can appreciate your faith tinyearl, my son is the same way as I once was, but as we become a more worldly aware nation I can't help but wonder and re-assess, in light of how many are killed and how many are are opressed in the muddle eastern regions simply because they can't agree on who the the real god is...so I ask again, for the sake of discussion, why is it that these pedestal leaders such as muhammid, jesus, the imams, et all...of all major religions derive from the same part of the world, a part of the world with an overwhelming population of religious fanatics? I am simply amazed that so many people can put their faith in a person who professes the moon physically split in half while so many others will curse, condemn and hate people who refuse to accept the virgin story...how many have died for these causes, how many have been murdered and persecuted? And watching the goings on in libya, israel, gaza, egypt, et all...it will never end until one or the other faith is eliminated...very sad indeedy
I agree with most of this post.

An authentic Jew would not commit these crimes.

An authentic Christian would not commit these crimes.

An authentic Muslim would not commit these crimes.

But what does the scriptures teach us about who controls this world system?

Surly ABs you remember what happened in the Garden of Eden.


1 John 4:4

But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won a victory over those people, because the Spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world.
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285603 Nov 28, 2012
"Taxes are what we pay for civilized society"
Tax havens are a major cause of inequality and poverty. They function as a result of collusion between banks and other financial intermediaries and the governments of states and micro-states which host their activities. The major culprits include the United States, Britain, Switzerland and other European countries which promote tax havens and prevent efforts to clamp down on their activities.

Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else / April 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ìthe de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.

France's 'Toughest' Budget: Super Tax on the Super Rich
New budget released Friday has 75% tax on millionaires, still commits to spending cuts / September 28, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/cn6abv8
France unveiled on Friday what it describes as its toughest budget ever, which includes a 75% tax on millionaires in an attempt to tackle its deficit.
"It's a combat budget to fight against a debt that only continues to increase and that rests on the shoulders of French taxpayers and generations to come," Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said Friday morning
"We're asking the wealthiest taxpayers to make an effort," Ayrault added after a cabinet meeting. "As for companies, we're bringing back justice. CAC-40 firms pay less taxes than small companies…now we're asking them to contribute."

The Tea Party sold out to Wall Street
GOP freshmen, big-bucks donors hobnob at resort
March 16, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/85yw3o9
Sandy Adams (Fla.), Quico Canseco (Texas), Rick Crawford (Ark.), Bob Dold (Ill.), Sean Duffy (Wis.), Stephen Fincher (Tenn.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Penn.), Daniel Webster (Fla.), Mike Grimm (N.Y.), Nan Hayworth (N.Y.), Jim Renacci (Ohio) and Cory Gardner (Col).

Marquette, MI

#285604 Nov 28, 2012

Marquette, MI

#285605 Nov 28, 2012
Tinka wrote:
Oh and so Jesus gave us the Nail and then the Hammer so what would his Bro have given
glistening Adventure of the wealth there of to what a Nail and Hammer can do?
It builds...re builds and creates...
Nice...Good Night I think the war will be done soon... Pro-create something the time of it I think is close at hand....tick tack tick tack when the scariest of all Stories will win the Nobel Prize...
little did he know we would use them on him. What’s the difference between the real Jesus and a picture of Jesus? It only takes one nail to hang up the picture.


Marquette, MI

#285607 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
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Well then I am glad you cleared that up Lane...at least we now know for sure that christianity borrowed NOTHING from Islam since it was invented 700 years after, eh?
swallow the santorum, it isn,t mouth wash, now try repeating yourself.

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#285608 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
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News you will not see in KSA...
LOS ANGELES — Fuming for two months in a jail cell here, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has had plenty of time to reconsider the wisdom of making “Innocence of Muslims,” his crude YouTube movie trailer depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.
Does Mr. Nakoula now regret the footage? After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world and led the unlikely filmmaker to his own arrest for violating his supervised release on a fraud conviction.
Not at all. In his first public comments since his incarceration soon after the video gained international attention in September, Mr. Nakoula told The New York Times that he would go to great lengths to convey what he called the ACTUAL truth about Muhammad. I thought, before I wrote this script, he said, that I should burn myself in a public square to let the American people and the people of the world know this message that I believe in.
In explaining his reasons for the film, Mr. Nakoula, 55, born in Egypt, cited the 2009 massacre at Fort Hood, Tex., as a prime example of the violence committed under the sign of Allah.
The guys like Nakula need a "separate treatment" than what he is getting now.

These people who pollute the mind of thousands with their baseless mass communication aids, should be given "exemplary Punishment"

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#285609 Nov 28, 2012
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News


CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)

On August 17, the DOE released an additional extensive analysis, once again observing, as had the IAEA, that Iraq had previously used tubes with “the same specifications” to manufacture rockets. The DOE reiterated that the tubes were not well suited for a centrifuge and that the aluminum used “provides performance roughly half that of the materials Iraq previously pursued.” Furthermore, the diameter of the tubes was smaller than any known centrifuge and “too thick for favorable use as rotor tubes, exceeding the nominal 1-mm thickness of known aluminum rotor tubes by more than a factor of three.” In other words, as the Senate Committee later noted,“The dimensions of the tubes seized do not ‘match’ the dimensions of any of Zippe’s centrifuge designs.” Moreover, the DOE also noted, the anodized surface “is not consistent with a gas centrifuge application”, which was “unlikely”. Rather,“a rocket production application is the more likely end use for these tubes.”

Apparently still relying entirely upon the CIA’s assessment, the DIA issued a report in November acknowledging that “alternative uses for the tubes are possible, such as rocket motor cases or rocket launch tubes” but parroting once again the false claim that “the specifications are consistent with earlier Iraqi gas centrifuge rotor designs.” The DOE tried to set the record straight yet again in a report in December that stated,“The wall thickness is three times greater than that for metal rotor designs used in high-speed centrifuges”—including the Zippe design. The DOE’s experts pointed out the inefficiency of any centrifuge built using these tubes, concluding,“In short, we judge it unlikely that anyone could deploy an enrichment facility capable of producing weapons significant quantities of HEU [highly-enriched uranium] based on these tubes.” One analyst later expressed his view to the Senate Committee that if Iraq truly intended these tubes for use in a centrifuge, then “we should just give them the tubes.”

The CIA was undeterred, publishing another report on August 1, 2002 ignoring the DOE assessment and claiming that the tubes’ supposed high tolerances, high cost, and secrecy in procurement were evidence that they were intended for centrifuges. The DIA the following month once again repeated the false claim that alternative uses were “possible” but “less likely because the specifications are consistent with late-1980s Iraqi gas centrifuge rotor designs.” Again in September, the CIA repeated as evidence for an intended centrifuge application its false claims of secrecy in procurement, high cost, tight tolerances, the anodized coating, and that the tubes “matched” known centrifuge specifications. It concluded that it was “unlikely” they were intended for a rocket program.

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#285610 Nov 28, 2012
While administration officials stated as fact that the tubes were intended for centrifuges and that they couldn’t be used for any other purpose, that the nation’s top experts on centrifuges at the DOE disagreed became public information long before the invasion of Iraq. David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) released a report on September 23, 2002 that noted,“In fact, the intelligence community is deeply divided about the purpose of the tubing, with a significant number of experts knowledgeable about gas centrifuges dissenting from the CIA view.” Furthermore, Albright wrote,

“ISIS has learned that U.S. nuclear experts who dissent from the Administration’s position are expected to remain silent.” In a second later report, Albright relayed that one expert “said that people in the administration can ‘release whatever they like, and they expect us to be silent.’” The New York Times similarly later reported that on September 13, after the administration had leaked information about the tubes to the press and made their rounds on the talk shows touting their claims,“the Energy Department sent a directive forbidding employees from discussing the subject with reporters.” Albright also made publicly known that the tubes would have to be modified significantly in order to be used for centrifuges, and also that UNSCOM had seen thousands of similar tubes in Iraq—for use in its rocket program. Further public information contradicting the U.S. government’s claims came when the British government released a dossier on September 24, 2002 admitting that “there is no definitive intelligence that it is destined for a nuclear programme.”

The CIA released an unclassified version of its National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraqi WMD in October 2002, which stated that the tubes “could be used in a centrifuge enrichment program. Most intelligence specialists assess this to be to be the intended use, but some believe that these tubes are probably intended for conventional weapons programs.” Thus “most intelligence specialists” included “Joe” and a number of analysts within the CIA and DIA, while excluding the nation’s top experts on centrifuges who had repeatedly pointed out that the CIA and DIA assessments were relying on false information.

By contrast, the classified version of the NIE noted that the DOE “assesses that the tubes probably are not part of” a nuclear weapons program. The State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), it also noted,“accepts the judgment of technical experts at the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) who have concluded that the tubes Iraq seeks to acquire are poorly suited for use in gas centrifuges to be used for uranium enrichment and finds unpersuasive the arguments advanced by others to make the case that they are intended for that purpose. INR considers it far more likely that the tubes are intended for another purpose, most likely the production of artillery rockets. The very large quantities being sought, the way the tubes were tested by the Iraqis, and the atypical lack of attention to operational security in the procurement efforts are among the factors, in addition to the DOE assessment, that lead INR to conclude that the tubes are not intended for use in Iraq’s nuclear weapon program.”

The NIE included an assessment from the Army

Marquette, MI

#285611 Nov 28, 2012
The names Sam Bacile, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, Nicola Bacily, Erwin Salameh all appear to point to a single creator of Innocence of Muslims -- the film that has caused the on-going riots in the Middle East.

Southern California reporters have discovered a complex web of pseudonyms and a potential history of financial fraud, establishing a pattern that points to a classic Hollywood-inspired con game: gathering "investors" (marks) by promising a percentage of gross receipts of a film (the con) that will never be made.

Signs of scam and con abound here. No one in Hollywood has any knowledge of "Sam Bacile," and there are no listings on IMDb for Bacile or Nakoula — virtually impossible even for an unsuccessful writer or producer. Bacile originally gave a brief interview to the AP in which he identified himself as a Jewish real estate developer, launching a firestorm of anti-Israel coverage. The initial scenes in the trailer depict what appear to be uncaring and corrupt Israeli police, qualifying the film as anti-Israel as well as anti-Islam.

A phone number provided by Coptic Christian activist Morris Sadek led to a home in Cerritos, California, a middle-class community approximately 25 miles southeast of Hollywood. When reporters visited the location, a man stating he was Nakoula Basseley Nakoula answered the door, denying he was Bacile. By way of proof he was not Bacile, he showed reporters a California drivers' license with his thumb obscuring the name.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula was convicted of bank fraud in 2010, sentenced to 21 months in prison, and ordered to pay $794,700 in restitution. A number of additional pseudonyms were listed on the bank fraud conviction.

The casting notice for the film is viewable online, listing Sam Bassiel, Producer, and Alan Roberts, as the director. The trailer's costume designer lists Abanob Nakoula and Sam Basselley as co-producers. There are many Alan Roberts on IMDb, but none are active directors with anything like this film listed.

Performers and creative crew for the 14-minute film say they were duped. The casting call is for a film called Desert Warrior, and the main male character is named "George." The 80-member cast and crew has told news outlets they performed in an "Arabic Desert adventure film." They report that the lines they performed were not about Mohammed or Islam. It is obvious from the film trailer that the offensive and bizarre dialog is poorly-dubbed over the original performers.

All of this adds up to many clues pointing toward potential fraud, albeit on a lesser-scale than many recent film scams. In 2011, the FBI broke up a large ring of film scammers led by a former CIA agent that defrauded investors of over $25 million. Other scams operate on a smaller scale, preying on aspiring performers by asking them to pay thousands of dollars to act in films that don't exist.

If Innocence of Muslims was intended to part unsuspecting marks from their cash, it has gone horribly wrong. Bacile, Nakoula, Basselley, or whatever pseudonym he is using these days, has graduated from bank fraud straight to the big time: accessory to murder, and on an international level.

United States

#285612 Nov 28, 2012
Stephen Lendman, A Look Back and Ahead In An Age of Neocon Rule, January 2007
Today's corrupted society armed to the teeth for endless wars with the most destructive weapons in human history deployed on over 800 known military bases in about 155 of the 192 countries of the world.

Marquette, MI

#285614 Nov 28, 2012
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Marquette, MI

#285615 Nov 29, 2012

Marquette, MI

#285616 Nov 29, 2012
On October 25, 2002, The New York Times headlined “Minnesota Senator Is Among 8 Dead in Crash,” saying:

Wellstone “was killed today when his campaign plane crashed approaching a small airport in a wooded region in the northern part of his state.”

Campaigning for a third term, he “perished along with seven other people when the chartered King Air A100 went down near Eveleth around 10:20 a.m. Central Time, the Federal Aviation Administration reported.”

Weather conditions weren’t abnormal. Light rain mixed with snow was reported. Flights without incident occur normally under these and harsher conditions. Wellstone perished with his wife, one child, three staff members, and two highly experienced pilots.

From the time the news broke, suspicions arose that perhaps what happened wasn’t accidental. Professors James Fetzer and Don “Four Arrows” Jacobs examined the tragedy. They concluded that Wellstone was assassinated.

In 2004, they published “American Assassination: The Strange Death of Senator Paul Wellstone.” More on what they said below.

Like former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, Wellstone was a rare exception that proves the rule. He was uncorrupted by money and power ambitions. He left academia to run for office. Explaining why, he said:

“I don’t represent the big oil companies, the big pharmaceuticals, or the big insurance industry. They already have great representation in Washington. It’s the rest of the people that need representation.”

His voting record explained why he was called “the conscience of the Senate.” He opposed the Gulf War and 2002 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution.

He was also against NAFTA, oil drilling in Alaska’s National Wildlife Refuge, sending troops to Haiti in 1994 without congressional approval, and bankruptcy legislation benefitting financial giants at the expense of working people.

He supported labor rights, children’s and women’s rights, universal healthcare, public and higher education, good jobs with livable wages, small farmers, campaign finance and lobbying reforms, and retirement security.

He once told his students,“Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak.” He stood for saying what you believe and doing what you say. At a time destructive neoliberalism took hold, he was a living, breathing antidote. His voting record showed it.

He supported progressive activism. He believed in backing principles with action. He battled hardliners supporting anti-populist measures he opposed.

At a fall 1990 White House reception for newly elected congressional members, he urged GHW Bush to spend more time on education and other social issues.

He also advised him against attacking Iraq. Not at all pleased, Bush privately asked an aide,“Who is this chickenshit?” His activism and outspokenness cursed him with the mark of Cain. He’d learn later how hard it stings.


Marquette, MI

#285619 Nov 29, 2012
May 8, 2012 - 92 min - Uploaded by TheTruthAlwaysAddsUp
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Marquette, MI

#285620 Nov 29, 2012
On November 27, Arafat's body was exhumed. Samples were taken from his remains and surrounding soil. Tests are being conducted. International experts are involved.

Earlier evidence proved he died from radioactive polonium poisoning. Tests will check for all possible toxic substances.

Israel had motive and opportunity. Mossad and Shin Bet have long histories of targeted assassinations. They use poisons and other means. Ariel Sharon's government bears full responsibility.

Fourteen months earlier, then Israeli Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told Israeli radio after a cabinet meeting:

"How are we going to" remove Arafat? "Expulsion is certainly one of the options, and killing is also one of the options."

In July 2000, Arafat fell out of favor. Bill Clinton hosted him and then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak at Camp David.

Barak insisted Arafat sign a "final agreement" and declare an "end of conflict." Doing so would have renounced any legal claim to Palestine land.

Nothing was put in writing. No documents or maps were presented. Barak wanted Palestinian land divided into four isolated bantustans surrounded by expanding settlements and other Israeli controlled territory.

He offered terms no responsible leader would accept. He demanded unconditional surrender. Arafat refused and was unfairly blamed. It very likely led to his death by assassination.

On September 29, 2000, a second Intifada erupted. Sharon provoked it. On September 28, accompanied by 1,000 Israeli troops and police, he staged a provocative visit to Islam's third holiest site - the Haram al-Sharif sacred shrine and Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Lugau, Germany

#285621 Nov 30, 2012
Linktv org wrote:
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I do not know why GOD chose the Hebrews as His chosen people.
What I do know is THREE largest religions came from it.
Judaism, Christianity, Islam.
GOD hates the sin but loves the sinner that is why HE sent His SON.
God never existed and he had never such a thing like a human being!

Lugau, Germany

#285622 Nov 30, 2012
Linktv org wrote:
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All Churches are not perfect.
The best way: forget all churches for ever!

Lugau, Germany

#285623 Nov 30, 2012
Linktv org wrote:
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You taking the text out of context.
GOD said offer them Peace first.
GOD never approves rape.
Slavery as in a fair wage, fair shelter, as in treat someone as you would want to be treated.
Deuteronomy 20
20 “When you go out to fight your enemies and you face horses and chariots and an army greater than your own, do not be afraid. The Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, is with you! 2 When you prepare for battle, the priest must come forward to speak to the troops. 3 He will say to them,‘Listen to me, all you men of Israel! Do not be afraid as you go out to fight your enemies today! Do not lose heart or panic or tremble before them. 4 For the Lord your God is going with you! He will fight for you against your enemies, and he will give you victory!’
5 “Then the officers of the army must address the troops and say,‘Has anyone here just built a new house but not yet dedicated it? If so, you may go home! You might be killed in the battle, and someone else would dedicate your house. 6 Has anyone here just planted a vineyard but not yet eaten any of its fruit? If so, you may go home! You might die in battle, and someone else would eat the first fruit. 7 Has anyone here just become engaged to a woman but not yet married her? Well, you may go home and get married! You might die in the battle, and someone else would marry her.’
8 “Then the officers will also say,‘Is anyone here afraid or worried? If you are, you may go home before you frighten anyone else.’ 9 When the officers have finished speaking to their troops, they will appoint the unit commanders.
10 “As you approach a town to attack it, you must first offer its people terms for peace. 11 If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. 12 But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. 13 When the Lord your God hands the town over to you, use your swords to kill every man in the town. 14 But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the plunder from your enemies that the Lord your God has given you.
15 “But these instructions apply only to distant towns, not to the towns of the nations in the land you will enter. 16 In those towns that the Lord your God is giving you as a special possession, destroy every living thing. 17 You must completely destroy[a] the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 This will prevent the people of the land from teaching you to imitate their detestable customs in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply against the Lord your God.
19 “When you are attacking a town and the war drags on, you must not cut down the trees with your axes. You may eat the fruit, but do not cut down the trees. Are the trees your enemies, that you should attack them? 20 You may only cut down trees that you know are not valuable for food. Use them to make the equipment you need to attack the enemy town until it falls.
The bible is full of fakes, errors and of course of lies!

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