Shumlin: Vermont is strong

Shumlin: Vermont is strong

There are 81 comments on the The Bennington Banner story from Jan 5, 2012, titled Shumlin: Vermont is strong. In it, The Bennington Banner reports that:

The state of Vermont is strong, despite "unprecedented challenges dumped upon us by mother nature," Gov.

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ABO

Westland, MI

#1 Jan 6, 2012
What it really shows is that private enterprise and private vermonters can get the job done despite over bearing governmental regulation. Government did nothing in this crisis called Irene except pay and get put of the way.
It also showed how practically overburdened we are with regulation as rivers and streams troughtout the state are just fine today despite a host of excavators and bull dozers driving right into the river bed and working.
Good work all you vermonters with your trucks and excavators.
wishing on stars

Gouldsboro, ME

#2 Jan 6, 2012
Well if Vermont is "strong" then ban Axe cologne from public buildings. It only makes environmental sense to ban frivolous polluting products from our boundaries. Instead offer a local product like Ram Lanolin.
ABO

Elizabeth, NJ

#3 Jan 6, 2012
wishing on stars wrote:
Well if Vermont is "strong" then ban Axe cologne from public buildings. It only makes environmental sense to ban frivolous polluting products from our boundaries. Instead offer a local product like Ram Lanolin.
That would not be strong smelling.
wishing on stars

Gouldsboro, ME

#5 Jan 6, 2012
ABO wrote:
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That would not be strong smelling.
exactly

Since: Feb 11

McHenry, MD

#6 Jan 6, 2012
"Despite challenges from Irene, Vermont continued an economic recovery, too, according to Shumlin. He cited the stateís 5.3 percent unemployment rate, noting it is among the lowest in the nation. New jobs in the state grew by 62 percent, he said, more than any other state."

Holy shit!!!!!!
Has anyone told this news to McNutt????
He'll need years of therapy when he reads this about a democratic governor.....
ABO

Westland, MI

#7 Jan 6, 2012
It isn't the lowest in the nation. Try north Dakota. And it was already that low when he was elected so it is Douglas that deserves the credit.

Shumlin says no to broad based taxes but has no problem with hidden taxes like forcing the utilities to pay outrageous prices for alternative energy. Those costs are passed on to the rate payees and the average residence will pay an additional $150/year. And he is forcing local communities to raise property taxes. Very clever he thinks. Very transparent says I.
wishing on stars

Gouldsboro, ME

#13 Jan 7, 2012
Alexs Tavern LLC wrote:
"Despite challenges from Irene, Vermont continued an economic recovery, too, according to Shumlin. He cited the stateís 5.3 percent unemployment rate, noting it is among the lowest in the nation. New jobs in the state grew by 62 percent, he said, more than any other state."
Holy shit!!!!!!
Has anyone told this news to McNutt????
He'll need years of therapy when he reads this about a democratic governor.....
What can we say people disasters are great for creating temporarily employment; an economic bridge if you will. An economic bubble will not likely save Vermontís economy from this disaster of a Governor however. We are an energy driven economy and Shumlin has done everything within his power to remove affordable power in the state. Our future is as a playground for city folk and we are here to serve the wealthy (like Shulim family travel tourism clientele). So party on people but you will have to face the morning soon.
ABO

Westland, MI

#14 Jan 8, 2012
Elmers Offshore Services wrote:
80% of in-staters get a property tax abatement/adjustment for income. That means that the evil rich pay for most of the VT welfare state.
Works great for the locals.
Until the last of the gravy train leaves.
What? Most of the rich out of state land owners get current use tax abatement paid for by those of us who live here.

We need to get rid of the subsidies everywhere especially current use and green energy.
markey

Shutesbury, MA

#15 Jan 8, 2012
Elmers Offshore Services wrote:
Wow. Four fcking minutes and the east bennville village idiot has already rated the post. A new neanderthal record!
DUH... tanks..you is so kind.DUH.....
Not Happy

Gouldsboro, ME

#16 Jan 8, 2012
ABO wrote:
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What? Most of the rich out of state land owners get current use tax abatement paid for by those of us who live here.
We need to get rid of the subsidies everywhere especially current use and green energy.
What of retired Vermonters who retain their ancestral home in VT but become FL residents due to the tax shelter and $27,000 affordable condos available there? Do we ignore that reality? I find it odd how Vermont endorses the race to the economic bottom and believes that it is just and good.
Good morning markey

Shutesbury, MA

#17 Jan 8, 2012


Here is to you and the UAW you dirtbag.
RIP

Danby, VT

#19 Jan 8, 2012
Not Happy wrote:
<quoted text>What of retired Vermonters who retain their ancestral home in VT but become FL residents due to the tax shelter and $27,000 affordable condos available there? Do we ignore that reality? I find it odd how Vermont endorses the race to the economic bottom and believes that it is just and good.
That is Florida's problem. They have a different revenue stream entirely and can afford it. We can't afford to subsidize out of state rich owners of our land.
Not Happy

Gouldsboro, ME

#21 Jan 8, 2012
RIP wrote:
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That is Florida's problem. They have a different revenue stream entirely and can afford it. We can't afford to subsidize out of state rich owners of our land.
Sorry to have used such a big word on you!

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ABO

Westland, MI

#23 Jan 9, 2012
It isn'ttheword it is the thought that made no sense.
Not Happy

Gouldsboro, ME

#24 Jan 9, 2012
ABO wrote:
It isn'ttheword it is the thought that made no sense.
Someoneís living in a home in VT that has been in their family for generations and as a Vermonter can no longer afford to pay their taxes. They have three choices 1.Sell the home and move out. 2. Sell rights to the Vermont land trust. 3. Buy a cheap property in another state (like FL) in order to claim residency in that state in order to lower their overall tax burden. These are the choices that our retired Vermonters are faced with.
Not Happy

Gouldsboro, ME

#25 Jan 9, 2012
I would hardly label them wealthy out of state land owners. Instead they are long time Vermonters who have been taxed out of their own home by their own state.
RIP

Danby, VT

#26 Jan 9, 2012
Not Happy wrote:
I would hardly label them wealthy out of state land owners. Instead they are long time Vermonters who have been taxed out of their own home by their own state.
It is obvious that no one was labelling retired Vermonters who have moved to Florida for the winter as wealthy out of state land owners. Why be so difficult?

It is obvious we are talking about people who either moved here with money or have only brought their money here from out of state and bought up property and then take advantage of the subsidies in the current use system. Current use results in an artificial support of land prices and a resultant reduction in use of the land productively. The beneficiaries are wealthy people who don't need it and don't make productive use of the land. The taxpayers who can't afford to pay the subsidies are the victims of the system. Bag the whole current use system and let the fair market establish what land is worth. Then land will be owned by people who will use it productively and it will create jobs.
Alex

Williston, VT

#27 Jan 9, 2012
So what's the REAL story here?
Shummy is quoted as saying:
"The state of Vermont is strong, despite "unprecedented challenges dumped upon us by mother nature."
-Wikipedia's page on Shumlin says nothing abiut him being having any religion, but we see from the above quote that he does- Paganism!
He also likes to direspect other people's religious-based beliefs like the sanctity of marriage- and institution that was created by the religions. No one here had to get a marriage 'license' over a hundred years ago and marriages ain't supposed to be performed by the govt. anyhow but Shummy made a big to-do with this perverted que er sh't--> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/pete...
everybody is special

Windsor, VT

#28 Jan 9, 2012
RIP wrote:
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Then land will be owned by people who will use it productively and it will create jobs.
If that were the case, we wouldn't have had to put sweet heart deals on the prop taxes so someone would buy it...
and the result is lots of open land that natives can use their ATV's and hunt on...
How about this, you get the land use reduction as long as the land is not posted...
but its one or the other, no one wants to pay full tax on all that land just so YOU can have a place to hunt...

I would like to hear a decision by ANY native vermonter...do you want strip malls, corporate parks and jobs or open land and tax rebates?

Or do you envision some kind of new farm community? The I have to ask, what happened to the OLD farm community?

The conflicting opinions then blamed on flatlanders has to stop...WHAT DO NATIVES WANT ANYWAY!
(I mean realistically, I know this poster wants to sell the land, yet still own it...he wants to pave the road for jobs but keep it unpaved because this is rural land...he wants development so we can have cheap housing, just not disturb any open land to get it)
ABO

Elizabeth, NJ

#29 Jan 9, 2012
The strip mall argument is scare tactic number one. Stop the crap. If we get rid of current use prices will drop to fair market value and the rest of the tax payers won't have to subsidize rich people.

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