Fluvanna Schools Eliminate 33 Positio...

Fluvanna Schools Eliminate 33 Positions for the 2013-14 Year

There are 100 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Mar 17, 2013, titled Fluvanna Schools Eliminate 33 Positions for the 2013-14 Year. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

In an effort to meet an anticipated budget shortfall, Fluvanna County Public Schools has eliminated 33 positions for the 2013-14 school year.

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Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#87 Apr 20, 2013
Fire the Lamestream Media wrote:
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Teachers teach because of the overly high pay, full-time pay for a part-time job, no accountability because of tenure, and the opportunity to spread liberal lies and indoctrinate children into socialist lines of thought! You get paid well to spread the lies of evolution, the new deal, and conservation, and kick religion out of children's lives! Ask to see the textbook Fluvanna uses that has a picture of Ronald Reagan dressed as Satan! Watch them try to cover it up!
This one is running for President MO RON.

This post is so completely absurd that I have to believe it is a complete joke.
Grace

Silver Spring, MD

#88 Apr 20, 2013
Fire the Lamestream Media wrote:
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Teachers teach because of the overly high pay, full-time pay for a part-time job, no accountability because of tenure, and the opportunity to spread liberal lies and indoctrinate children into socialist lines of thought! You get paid well to spread the lies of evolution, the new deal, and conservation, and kick religion out of children's lives! Ask to see the textbook Fluvanna uses that has a picture of Ronald Reagan dressed as Satan! Watch them try to cover it up!
I've seen that book. I can't believe they use it!

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#89 Apr 20, 2013
Wheres the teachers wrote:
I drove by Carysbrook, Central, and the middle school around 4 this afternoon. There was not a single car in all 3 parking lots! Teachers too lazy to stay after and help kids or grade papers?!?!
Help what kids? Most teachers would be happy to help kids after school, but the kids who need the help have parents who are too lazy to come pick them up. Why exactly were you driving by all three of these schools? If you have the time to drive around checking the parking lots, why don't you volunteer to help tutor kids? Probably because you are too stupid and uneducated.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#90 Apr 21, 2013
Fluvy Gal wrote:
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Help what kids? Most teachers would be happy to help kids after school, but the kids who need the help have parents who are too lazy to come pick them up. Why exactly were you driving by all three of these schools? If you have the time to drive around checking the parking lots, why don't you volunteer to help tutor kids? Probably because you are too stupid and uneducated.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
~Friedrich Nietzsche

Fluvy, this person is clearly a troll. The voters of Fluvanna speak when they vote, and are not represented by a single or a few anonymous morons on the internet.
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Most educated people know that good schools equates to good property values, and that on average, throughout the year, work near a 40 hour work week, which means that when working, they're putting in 60-70 hour work weeks. They also know that teachers, especially those in Fluvanna, earn less than what a baby sitter would if they had to watch a group of 25-30 individuals daily. Most reasonable know that teachers also have to have degrees, and certifications to teach in Virginia, while being paid so low. One of the lowest paid careers that require a degree. We know that teachers are abused by students, neglected by parents, intimidated by bureaucracy, and now vilified by society. But we also know that teachers are the stewards of the future as a nation. The fact that anyone would go into teaching as a career is either saintly or stupid. I for one believe it is the former, rather than the latter. It can only be for altruistic reasons that one would teach, especially in today's climate.

"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done."
~Sydney Carton in a tale of two cities, Charles Dickens.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#91 Apr 21, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
~Friedrich Nietzsche
Fluvy, this person is clearly a troll. The voters of Fluvanna speak when they vote, and are not represented by a single or a few anonymous morons on the internet.
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Most educated people know that good schools equates to good property values, and that on average, throughout the year, work near a 40 hour work week, which means that when working, they're putting in 60-70 hour work weeks. They also know that teachers, especially those in Fluvanna, earn less than what a baby sitter would if they had to watch a group of 25-30 individuals daily. Most reasonable know that teachers also have to have degrees, and certifications to teach in Virginia, while being paid so low. One of the lowest paid careers that require a degree. We know that teachers are abused by students, neglected by parents, intimidated by bureaucracy, and now vilified by society. But we also know that teachers are the stewards of the future as a nation. The fact that anyone would go into teaching as a career is either saintly or stupid. I for one believe it is the former, rather than the latter. It can only be for altruistic reasons that one would teach, especially in today's climate.
"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done."
~Sydney Carton in a tale of two cities, Charles Dickens.
That belongs in some kind of internet discussion board hall of fame. Brilliant.
Typical

Charlottesville, VA

#92 Apr 21, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
~Friedrich Nietzsche
Fluvy, this person is clearly a troll. The voters of Fluvanna speak when they vote, and are not represented by a single or a few anonymous morons on the internet.
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Most educated people know that good schools equates to good property values, and that on average, throughout the year, work near a 40 hour work week, which means that when working, they're putting in 60-70 hour work weeks. They also know that teachers, especially those in Fluvanna, earn less than what a baby sitter would if they had to watch a group of 25-30 individuals daily. Most reasonable know that teachers also have to have degrees, and certifications to teach in Virginia, while being paid so low. One of the lowest paid careers that require a degree. We know that teachers are abused by students, neglected by parents, intimidated by bureaucracy, and now vilified by society. But we also know that teachers are the stewards of the future as a nation. The fact that anyone would go into teaching as a career is either saintly or stupid. I for one believe it is the former, rather than the latter. It can only be for altruistic reasons that one would teach, especially in today's climate.
"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done."
~Sydney Carton in a tale of two cities, Charles Dickens.
Typical liberal sewage by someone eager to spend the money of others that actually earned it on appalling waste.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#93 Apr 21, 2013
Typical wrote:
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Typical liberal sewage by someone eager to spend the money of others that actually earned it on appalling waste.
It's clear that you are as simple as your thought and reasoning.
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Education pays:
http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm
It keeps people off welfare, and provides for other's to contribute, which reduces other's tax burdens. They also become makers and not takers.
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School spending increases property values:
http://www.nber.org/digest/jan03/w9054.html

"A $1.00 increase in per pupil state aid increases aggregate per pupil housing values by about $20.00, indicating that potential residents value education expenditure."
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Education is also an investment in our national security:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2012/0...

“Educational failure puts the United States’ future economic prosperity, global position, and physical safety at risk,” says the report, the result of an independent task force cochaired by former secretary of State Condoleezza Rice..."
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You may hate money and wealth creation, you may hate an increase in value on your investments, and you may hate the United States of America, but I don't; and if that is what so called conservatives stand for, then I'll wear your label as a badge of honor.
Fluco

Charlottesville, VA

#94 Apr 21, 2013
A teacher wrote:
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You can lead a student to a future, but you cannot make them think.
A good teacher could make them think. Most Fluvanna teachers are good but you clearly have a rotten attitude.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#95 Apr 22, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
~Friedrich Nietzsche
Fluvy, this person is clearly a troll. The voters of Fluvanna speak when they vote, and are not represented by a single or a few anonymous morons on the internet.
.
Most educated people know that good schools equates to good property values, and that on average, throughout the year, work near a 40 hour work week, which means that when working, they're putting in 60-70 hour work weeks. They also know that teachers, especially those in Fluvanna, earn less than what a baby sitter would if they had to watch a group of 25-30 individuals daily. Most reasonable know that teachers also have to have degrees, and certifications to teach in Virginia, while being paid so low. One of the lowest paid careers that require a degree. We know that teachers are abused by students, neglected by parents, intimidated by bureaucracy, and now vilified by society. But we also know that teachers are the stewards of the future as a nation. The fact that anyone would go into teaching as a career is either saintly or stupid. I for one believe it is the former, rather than the latter. It can only be for altruistic reasons that one would teach, especially in today's climate.
"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done."
~Sydney Carton in a tale of two cities, Charles Dickens.
Thank you.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#96 Apr 22, 2013
Fluco wrote:
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A good teacher could make them think. Most Fluvanna teachers are good but you clearly have a rotten attitude.
No one can make anyone do anything, they can't even make you feel. I'm sure you will be the first to tell other's to take responsibility for themselves, and now you're making excuses for other's shortcomings. I'm sure you'll be one of the first to society for its ills, but fail to blame parents for not being more involved in their own children's lives. My aunt once told me something that stuck with me. It was many, many, moons ago when I was in elementary school and I had just told her that someone "made me mad." She told me that I was responsible for my happiness.
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It sounds like you need to quit relying on the state to provide everything for others.
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"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

~Eleanor Roosevelt
influvanna

Palmyra, VA

#97 Apr 24, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
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Why?
because, he already got his....so when he or his kids were in school, it was fine for everybody else to support and pay for their education...now he can "opt out" because he doesn't want to pay for some other kids schooling...self absorbed, centered retrograde that he is.....
influvanna

Palmyra, VA

#98 Apr 24, 2013
Typical wrote:
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Typical liberal sewage by someone eager to spend the money of others that actually earned it on appalling waste.
Oh and what local school system has a silver medal for its high school,(which is fed by the lower schools)from US News....Fluvanna. An "appalling waste", apparently not! But the next few years will tell of the "waste" inflicted on the kids in Fluvanna by those not wanting to pay whats needed, versus demands to pay less at all costs... especially if its for good schools.

We made it and now are going to throw it all away...to save your sorry a.... a few bucks. sad
Jim2051 Charlottesville

AOL

#99 Apr 24, 2013
Ice Dogg wrote:
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What did you do, carve it in stone? Or get educated in Fluvana
You are as bad as Ice Doog. You can not spell either unless you did that on purpose. Last time I looked Fluvanna had 2 n's.
influvanna

Palmyra, VA

#100 Apr 24, 2013
taxpayer wrote:
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The only lies being spread are by teachers trying to line their pockets at taxpayer expense. I guess this teacher didn't get the memo about lying about the lipids each student was issued!
The Fluvanna Taxpayer Association continues to ferret out the truth and expose the lies and reckless overspending of the teachers in our school system. Read their expose in this weeks Review showing how Fluvanna school have the third largest spending among school systems!
The FTA? its a joke. i looked at their "research" it was statistical crap; numbers/localities hand selected to push a point, without analysis of differences or need. The only one I see lying is you to yourself through your exposed ignorance of the topic as found in your post.
Jim2051 Charlottesville

AOL

#101 Apr 24, 2013
Just read FHS ranked one of the best and now you are cutting 33 jobs. Hope you start at the top.Better cut some jobs from Fluvanna County supervisors. They sound as bad as Charlottesvile and Albemarle council!
real central Va Marine

Crozet, VA

#102 Apr 25, 2013
Liberalace wrote:
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First of all, how much of the current total per pupil expenditure is related to the cost of the new high school and its financing? You wanted it, you got it.
Secondly, where are per pupil expenditures tied to the success of the school district? I see many who spend less doing a good job (Salt Lake City) and many spending lots doing horribly (Philly, Detroit, DC, etc.).
Thirdly, teachers have not been getting raises. While they are not leading a cushy life, for years they have--as a group--sat by and accepted across the board pay increases. However, like many private sector employees, they have been foregoing raises during the tough economic times. Unlike many private sector industries (but in line with all government workers), the bad ones and mediocre ones had received the same raises as the good and great ones; and the really bad ones were even kept on, receiving raises and racking up seniority.
Wanna know how it works in real life? The bosses allocate a set amount for pay increases. Middle-managers are given a pool from which they can allocate increases based on merit and performance. From that pool, the excellents receive a higher amount, the goods a lower raise, and the mediocre nothing. The poor performers get replaced.
So, now teachers, let's go back to your elementary statistics and look at the bell curve. Out of all the teachers in Fluvanna, most perform in that middle area of the curve, a small percentage at the right end and some at the left end. Does it make sense that the ones on the right end get the same pay increase as the ones on the left?
Why is Keller asking for a 2% increase in teachers' salaries? Shouldn't the ones at the right end of the performance curve be getting 4-5% and the ones in the middle 1.5% and the ones to the left nothing?
The problem for this fiasco cannot be laid at the feet of Barack Hussein Obama or the hack Tim Kaine. It lies squarely with the old Boards of Supervisors and the old School Boards. It was the old BOS who slid through the idiotic high school while for years blocking development of the Crossroads area in the name of "rural preservation." Now there is no business base of any kind in this county, population growth has slowed, and we are crying poormouth. Thank the BOS members from the 1995 to 2010 the next time you see them plowing them thar fields. As for the previous school boards (and, it seems,the current one), they simply do what school boards like to do: play god, collect money, help out pals with contracts and work, and do it all in the name of "the kids."
R.I.P.: Thurman Munson
"So, now teachers, let's go back to your elementary statistics and look at the bell curve. Out of all the teachers in Fluvanna, most perform in that middle area of the curve, a small percentage at the right end and some at the left end. Does it make sense that the ones on the right end get the same pay increase as the ones on the left?"
There is no other way to do it, because your "corporate managers" aren't forced to accept workers(students) who don't perform and are able to fire those who don't perform. Teachers can do neither, fire students or "pick (interview) those they do get. I've seen great kids who are motivated excel in spite of bad teachers, and kids who don't give a darn fail even with the best teachers. Tying pay to the kids performance is not realistic. Never will be...just look at the university way of "paying" it's staff, and the "graduates" who result. The difference is the college student is there because they want to be, or they paid to be there. Big difference from the school kid.
real central Va Marine

Crozet, VA

#103 Apr 25, 2013
taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
The only lies being spread are by teachers trying to line their pockets at taxpayer expense. I guess this teacher didn't get the memo about lying about the lipids each student was issued!
The Fluvanna Taxpayer Association continues to ferret out the truth and expose the lies and reckless overspending of the teachers in our school system. Read their expose in this weeks Review showing how Fluvanna school have the third largest spending among school systems!
Students are issued lipids? No wonder we have overweight kids.
Rid of Waste

Charlottesville, VA

#104 Aug 7, 2013
They only fired the fat and lazy teachers, and only 33 of them. There are hundreds left to demand big pay raises.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#105 Aug 8, 2013
Due strikes a again with a mature, insightful retort. For myself, I need only look back at my own schooling, thank the gods I grew up in the north where education actully means something.
toughen up

Charlottesville, VA

#106 Aug 11, 2013
Who cares. They are just kids. You can easy fit another 3 or 4 in a classroom. If a teacher can't handle that then they should eliminate 34 positions.

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