Panel: Immigration Reform Will Benefi...

Panel: Immigration Reform Will Benefit Country, Economy

There are 81 comments on the ARLnow.com story from May 15, 2013, titled Panel: Immigration Reform Will Benefit Country, Economy. In it, ARLnow.com reports that:

Rep. Jim Moran and a group of like-minded panelists made the case for immigration reform Tuesday night at a community forum in Arlington.

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spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#42 May 19, 2013
Juan wrote:
I've been saying the same thing for a long time. Giving amnesty will allow all those undocumented to pay taxes and help pay off the national debt.
Illegal aliens consume far more than they contribute. When our government picks up the tab for their housing, medical care and education because big business pays them slave wages, that amounts to corporate welfare. The Americans that they displace also become a charge on the government, taxpayer. I'd be surprised if they don't consume double what they contribute.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#43 May 19, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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LOL!!!
Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
Friday, 23 Sep 2011 05:17 PM
By James Walsh
On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."
No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.
******It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data.******
The Treasury report found that "One common type of fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement (Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."
Read more on Newsmax.com : Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax
Benefits
that can't be true. according to illegal alien supporters they get nothing nor do they do any job an American citizen would have and all they do is contribute and never get nothing back.
zeek

Charlottesville, VA

#44 May 19, 2013
Amnesty, just more antigun democrat votes, but its not like we have many real rethugs anymore, but hey at least we can bankrupt our country helping others
ronnie

Pleasant Grove, UT

#45 May 19, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Well if nobody is going to take advantage of legalization then it is no big deal. Why even waste time debating it?
What are your feelings about proud legal white Utah residents like Warren Jeffs who marry little girls? Should we tarring all of the other legal white residents based on his actions?
http://marriage.about.com/od/infamous/p/warre...
Warren Jeff's is in Prison, lived in a two square mile of desert Utah with a few kook's. They don't have anything to do with Utah. Most of Jeffs followers moved to Canada 20 year's ago. It's hilarious you would argue about this clown. No one in this State can stand that loser. He is not a member of this community. In fact most anti-illegal voices here don't get much acclaim because the Mormon Church is a sanctuary for illegals from all over the world.If you are an illegal alien in Utah, you get the red carpet treatment.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#46 May 19, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Warren Jeff's is in Prison, lived in a two square mile of desert Utah with a few kook's. They don't have anything to do with Utah. Most of Jeffs followers moved to Canada 20 year's ago. It's hilarious you would argue about this clown. No one in this State can stand that loser. He is not a member of this community. In fact most anti-illegal voices here don't get much acclaim because the Mormon Church is a sanctuary for illegals from all over the world.If you are an illegal alien in Utah, you get the red carpet treatment.
OK. So Jeff's was an aberration and we should not consider him representative of the entire white legal population in Utah.

However if you can find one brown miscreant out of a sample size of 11 million that is a different story.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#48 May 19, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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OK. So Jeff's was an aberration and we should not consider him representative of the entire white legal population in Utah.
However if you can find one brown miscreant out of a sample size of 11 million that is a different story.
If they are in the country illegally, you bet.
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#49 May 20, 2013
When an employer is caught employing illegal aliens he should be made to pay restitution to all the American workers he displaced plus a 20% penalty. They'd soon change their ways then.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#50 May 20, 2013
The Heritage Foundation recently issued a comprehensive report showing that Sen. Marco Rubio's plan to instantly legalize 11.5 million illegal immigrants would add $6.3 trillion to the nation's budget deficits over the next 50 years. Heritage assumed there are 11.5 million illegals, but other estimates put the number at 33 million, which would mean adding another $18 trillion to the deficit. To put that in perspective, the largest U.S. budget deficit in history was $1.4 trillion in 2009.

Currently, the average illegal alien gets about $24,721 in taxpayer-funded benefits and pays about $10,334 in taxes. After full legalization, they will be eligible for a whole new panoply of government benefits such as direct welfare payments, Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare. Heritage concludes that the total government benefits to these former illegal aliens will then rise to about $43,900 per household, while the taxes paid by them will increase only modestly to around $16,000.
hondacivic

Charlottesville, VA

#51 May 20, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
The Heritage Foundation recently issued a comprehensive report showing that Sen. Marco Rubio's plan to instantly legalize 11.5 million illegal immigrants would add $6.3 trillion to the nation's budget deficits over the next 50 years. Heritage assumed there are 11.5 million illegals, but other estimates put the number at 33 million, which would mean adding another $18 trillion to the deficit. To put that in perspective, the largest U.S. budget deficit in history was $1.4 trillion in 2009.
Currently, the average illegal alien gets about $24,721 in taxpayer-funded benefits and pays about $10,334 in taxes. After full legalization, they will be eligible for a whole new panoply of government benefits such as direct welfare payments, Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare. Heritage concludes that the total government benefits to these former illegal aliens will then rise to about $43,900 per household, while the taxes paid by them will increase only modestly to around $16,000.
Their study is flawed. They only accounted for cost and did not offset it with any economic benefit. This is the same group that is pushing the GOP to not govern, just push "scandals". I am sure they are balanced.
chicagonut

Coachella, CA

#52 May 20, 2013
hondacivic wrote:
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Their study is flawed. They only accounted for cost and did not offset it with any economic benefit. This is the same group that is pushing the GOP to not govern, just push "scandals". I am sure they are balanced.
What economic benefit? We have 23 million Americans out of work. These people are low wage earners and just like now will be a net negative to our country. They will take out way more in taxes than they will ever put in.
zeek

Charlottesville, VA

#53 May 20, 2013
spud wrote:
When an employer is caught employing illegal aliens he should be made to pay restitution to all the American workers he displaced plus a 20% penalty. They'd soon change their ways then.
Wont happen, the elite in office want them here to help bankrupt the country
Juan Too

Charlottesville, VA

#54 May 20, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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What economic benefit? We have 23 million Americans out of work. These people are low wage earners and just like now will be a net negative to our country. They will take out way more in taxes than they will ever put in.
When I first came to this country, I used to stand at Home Depot to get spot jobs. Usually, I made up to $300 in one day. 6 yrs and I never ever saw an American there.
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#55 May 20, 2013
zeek wrote:
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Wont happen, the elite in office want them here to help bankrupt the country
But the "panel" says they will benefit our country. Could it be this panel is composed of idiots? No, Americans are too smart to elect imbeciles, aren't we?
zeek

Charlottesville, VA

#56 May 20, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>But the "panel" says they will benefit our country. Could it be this panel is composed of idiots? No, Americans are too smart to elect imbeciles, aren't we?
I wish you were right
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#58 May 20, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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What economic benefit? We have 23 million Americans out of work. These people are low wage earners and just like now will be a net negative to our country. They will take out way more in taxes than they will ever put in.
Do you have any facts? It seems like your argument is "I just know". How many of these "low wage earners" will be making more once legal? How many incomes will rise from making minimum wage after they will be protected by minimum wage laws? How much of this increase in income will be put back into the economy? How many will start their own business after becoming legal? How many will have health insurance after becoming legal?

Do you know what the tax situation of the illegal immigrants? If not, then how do you know if they will pay in or get a refund? Most of the "low wage earners" are stuck in just a couple industries that are open to paying their workers under the table. After become legal, they will be able to work in different idustries.
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#59 May 20, 2013
zeek wrote:
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I wish you were right
Me too
chicagonut

Coachella, CA

#60 May 20, 2013
Juan Too wrote:
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When I first came to this country, I used to stand at Home Depot to get spot jobs. Usually, I made up to $300 in one day. 6 yrs and I never ever saw an American there.
That's because Americans go about acquiring a job the legal way unlike you illegals who work under the table and don't pay taxes.$300 a day in untaxed earnings and you're proud of committing the crime of income evasion along with working without authorization in this country?
chicagonut

Coachella, CA

#61 May 20, 2013
hondacivic wrote:
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Do you have any facts? It seems like your argument is "I just know". How many of these "low wage earners" will be making more once legal? How many incomes will rise from making minimum wage after they will be protected by minimum wage laws? How much of this increase in income will be put back into the economy? How many will start their own business after becoming legal? How many will have health insurance after becoming legal?
Do you know what the tax situation of the illegal immigrants? If not, then how do you know if they will pay in or get a refund? Most of the "low wage earners" are stuck in just a couple industries that are open to paying their workers under the table. After become legal, they will be able to work in different idustries.
How will allowing them to remain here and be legalized free up jobs for Americans? They'll still be sending billions out of this country to their long lost relatives in their homelands. How does that help our economy? Illegals get billions back in taxes that they never even paid into the fund.

http://factcheck.org/2012/05/tax-credits-for-...

I have facts saved on every possible negative about illegal immigration. You're the one who is misinformed.
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#62 May 20, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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How will allowing them to remain here and be legalized free up jobs for Americans? They'll still be sending billions out of this country to their long lost relatives in their homelands. How does that help our economy? Illegals get billions back in taxes that they never even paid into the fund.
http://factcheck.org/2012/05/tax-credits-for-...
I have facts saved on every possible negative about illegal immigration. You're the one who is misinformed.
That's great that you have facts. That is what I asked for. Why don't you share with the class?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#63 May 20, 2013
hondacivic wrote:
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Do you have any facts? It seems like your argument is "I just know". How many of these "low wage earners" will be making more once legal? How many incomes will rise from making minimum wage after they will be protected by minimum wage laws? How much of this increase in income will be put back into the economy? How many will start their own business after becoming legal? How many will have health insurance after becoming legal?
Do you know what the tax situation of the illegal immigrants? If not, then how do you know if they will pay in or get a refund? Most of the "low wage earners" are stuck in just a couple industries that are open to paying their workers under the table. After become legal, they will be able to work in different idustries.
if they become legal they will no longer be working the same jobs.we all know the dems will never enforce laws or secure our borders,so it will cause another flood just like all the other shamnesties have. those who hire illegal aliens will replace them with more illegal aliens.

say what you will yet most know illegal aliens are hurting this country. taking up for them shows lack of loyalty of country and fellow citizens.

not start the name calling like all petty supporters of illegal aliens do when known to fail.

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