McAuliffe Against Gender-Based Discri...

McAuliffe Against Gender-Based Discrimination Policy Proposal

There are 27 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jun 6, 2013, titled McAuliffe Against Gender-Based Discrimination Policy Proposal. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Thursday, Terry McAuliffe called on lawmakers to strengthen existing laws against gender based discrimination in the workplace.

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Vagal

Martinsville, VA

#1 Jun 6, 2013
This guy is nothing but scum of the earth.
Too bad the GOP has put together a ticket very far right.
I am worried.
Hmmmmm

Spartanburg, SC

#3 Jun 6, 2013
I am neither scum, nor "race baiting" nor "handout wanting" (but that actually goes for most getting public assistance as well), but I will vote for him.
I will mostly vote for him to try keep that wanna be fascist Cuccinelli out of the chair.
But more to the point, what's wrong with policies that try to deter and prevent gender-based discrimination?

The only thing you should say in response to such a thing is "well, of course..."
Willie

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Jun 7, 2013
I am all for fair pay and think everyone should be viewed as equals if they perform the same. However, one gender does appear to use more sick time than the other. Based on that, how can you reward someone who is in attendance less then their peers? It would be good to see a study on this. If attendance is the same or better then I recall my statement...I have not witnessed that though.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Jun 7, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
I am neither scum, nor "race baiting" nor "handout wanting" (but that actually goes for most getting public assistance as well), but I will vote for him.
I will mostly vote for him to try keep that wanna be fascist Cuccinelli out of the chair.
But more to the point, what's wrong with policies that try to deter and prevent gender-based discrimination?
The only thing you should say in response to such a thing is "well, of course..."
If his motives (for merely placating female voters) were not so transparent, it may actually be welcomed.

Look out, next it will be hispanics, blacks, and gays. Let's just hit all the special interest groups while we're at it.
Eaglescout1984

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Jun 7, 2013
Before someone brings up the whole "women make 70% of what men make argument" let me tell you why that argument is misleading.

When you average out pay, women do in fact make about 70% of what men make, but there are logical reasons for this.
-Working class men traditionally work jobs with long shifts and hard labor, meaning they would make more than someone with a similar skill set that gets a job in an office or commercial setting.
-Women, as a result of basic biology, might have to take time off for a pregnancy.
-And speaking of children, mothers are the traditional family caregiver. So, women might be less inclined to take advantage of overtime, business trips or other work assignments that boost pay in order to spend time with her kids.
-Outside of the traditional family, there is the single mom too. She has to balance work with taking full care of her children. It's a tricky balancing act that often results in missed opportunities to be promoted or land a better job.

So, it's not that women are discriminated against, it's that the way traditional roles and biology work against women from being as successful in the workplace.
hondacivic

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Jun 7, 2013
Disillusioned wrote:
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If his motives (for merely placating female voters) were not so transparent, it may actually be welcomed.
Look out, next it will be hispanics, blacks, and gays. Let's just hit all the special interest groups while we're at it.
Well the GOP could try to win their vote too, but tend to drive them away with their tone and policy proposals.
Hmmmmm

Spartanburg, SC

#8 Jun 7, 2013
Eaglescout1984 wrote:
Before someone brings up the whole "women make 70% of what men make argument" let me tell you why that argument is misleading.
When you average out pay, women do in fact make about 70% of what men make, but there are logical reasons for this.
-Working class men traditionally work jobs with long shifts and hard labor, meaning they would make more than someone with a similar skill set that gets a job in an office or commercial setting.
-Women, as a result of basic biology, might have to take time off for a pregnancy.
-And speaking of children, mothers are the traditional family caregiver. So, women might be less inclined to take advantage of overtime, business trips or other work assignments that boost pay in order to spend time with her kids.
-Outside of the traditional family, there is the single mom too. She has to balance work with taking full care of her children. It's a tricky balancing act that often results in missed opportunities to be promoted or land a better job.
So, it's not that women are discriminated against, it's that the way traditional roles and biology work against women from being as successful in the workplace.
Oy. The only thing worse than knowing NO social science at all is thinking that you know some.

Yes, there are many normal job market/human capital (i.e. legitimate) reasons that women, on average, make less than men.

BUT, not one single actual study is ever able to account for all of the wage gap. Furthermore, the actual existence of straightforward discrimination has been very well documented.

So getting to "it's not that women are discriminated against" is just plain wrong. The best you could have done is provide a list of reasons that there is a persistent gender pay gap. This would include normal stuff like hours worked and job market sectors, and etc. etc. But is also includes discrimination.
Hmmmmm

Spartanburg, SC

#9 Jun 7, 2013
Disillusioned wrote:
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If his motives (for merely placating female voters) were not so transparent, it may actually be welcomed.
Look out, next it will be hispanics, blacks, and gays. Let's just hit all the special interest groups while we're at it.
Oh, I see, of course. Our elected representatives are not supposed to try to represents the concerns of their constituents. Now I get it. They are just supposed to represent the concerns of the status quo. I have seen the light. It makes so much sense now.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Jun 7, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
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Oh, I see, of course. Our elected representatives are not supposed to try to represents the concerns of their constituents. Now I get it. They are just supposed to represent the concerns of the status quo. I have seen the light. It makes so much sense now.
If they actually DID something after promising them the moon, that would be different. It is all for political gain and staying in the limelight with free advertising.

Surely you can see through the smoke? I guess not.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jun 7, 2013
hondacivic wrote:
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Well the GOP could try to win their vote too, but tend to drive them away with their tone and policy proposals.
For example?
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Jun 7, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
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Oy. The only thing worse than knowing NO social science at all is thinking that you know some.
Yes, there are many normal job market/human capital (i.e. legitimate) reasons that women, on average, make less than men.
BUT, not one single actual study is ever able to account for all of the wage gap. Furthermore, the actual existence of straightforward discrimination has been very well documented.
So getting to "it's not that women are discriminated against" is just plain wrong. The best you could have done is provide a list of reasons that there is a persistent gender pay gap. This would include normal stuff like hours worked and job market sectors, and etc. etc. But is also includes discrimination.
While I agree that there are MULTIPLE forms of discrimination, how do you propose to prevent and/or correct it?
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Jun 7, 2013
Willie wrote:
I am all for fair pay and think everyone should be viewed as equals if they perform the same. However, one gender does appear to use more sick time than the other. Based on that, how can you reward someone who is in attendance less then their peers? It would be good to see a study on this. If attendance is the same or better then I recall my statement...I have not witnessed that though.
Now, now, Willie. Let's not go there.

You must realize that women are more often the ones to stay home with sick children.

And if men had menstrual cycles, I would bet their attendance would decline as well.

Yes, I said it.
Gru

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jun 7, 2013
Vagal wrote:
This guy is nothing but scum of the earth.
Too bad the GOP has put together a ticket very far right.
I am worried.
The far left has so completely f***** everything up that I'm more than willing to give the extremist Right a chance!!! At least they won't sell us out to the izlams !!!! This America is NOT the America I grew up in, and I want her back!
Gru

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Jun 7, 2013
Willie wrote:
I am all for fair pay and think everyone should be viewed as equals if they perform the same. However, one gender does appear to use more sick time than the other. Based on that, how can you reward someone who is in attendance less then their peers? It would be good to see a study on this. If attendance is the same or better then I recall my statement...I have not witnessed that though.
I suspect you speak of my gender; however, as one with no children, I concur -- because many of them call out sick with sick children. I'd like to see parents take turns staying home with sick children; however this always seems to fall on the "Mom."
Sarah

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Jun 7, 2013
I refuse to vote for a Socialist candidate and supporter of socialist programs.

“Don't Drink The Obama Kool-Aid”

Since: Aug 09

You don't need to know, Va.

#17 Jun 7, 2013
From the story:"Thursday, Terry McAuliffe called on lawmakers to strengthen existing laws against gender based discrimination in the workplace. He's proposing raising the maximum penalty for employers 50 percent, from two times to three times the amount of wages withheld."
Well Terry, if you were serious, why not make it a 1000% increase? Could it be that your God Nerobama might be busted?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21285...
Hmmmmm

Spartanburg, SC

#19 Jun 7, 2013
Disillusioned wrote:
<quoted text>
If they actually DID something after promising them the moon, that would be different. It is all for political gain and staying in the limelight with free advertising.
Surely you can see through the smoke? I guess not.
Oy. Grow up. That interpretation of political process is popular common sense tripe. But it is tripe.
Hmmmmm

Spartanburg, SC

#20 Jun 7, 2013
Sarah wrote:
I refuse to vote for a Socialist candidate and supporter of socialist programs.
Bwaaa hahahahahaha. What socialist programs? Name one.
i loves me some democrats

Port Tobacco, MD

#21 Jun 7, 2013
Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
From the story:"Thursday, Terry McAuliffe called on lawmakers to strengthen existing laws against gender based discrimination in the workplace. He's proposing raising the maximum penalty for employers 50 percent, from two times to three times the amount of wages withheld."
Well Terry, if you were serious, why not make it a 1000% increase? Could it be that your God Nerobama might be busted?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21285...
Terry best git on board with his imposter-in-chief on this issue.
Hmmmmm

Spartanburg, SC

#22 Jun 7, 2013
Gru wrote:
<quoted text> The far left has so completely ****** everything up that I'm more than willing to give the extremist Right a chance!!! At least they won't sell us out to the izlams !!!! This America is NOT the America I grew up in, and I want her back!
What planet are you living on? The far left?! What the....?

(If you want the America you lived in to come back, stop looking at the gubmint, and start looking at the corporation).

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