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Activists Supporting Same-Sex Marriage Gather in Charlottesville

There are 77 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Feb 12, 2013, titled Activists Supporting Same-Sex Marriage Gather in Charlottesville. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Gay and lesbian activists were front and center Thursday inside Charlottesville Circuit Court.

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real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#77 Feb 15, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
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I'm actually laughing my a off right now. My statement was anthropological.
Yours is pseudo-intellectual "biological anthropological."
The fact that a male and female primate have to have sex to produce offspring and that some form of pair bonding is frequently a good strategy in evolutionary fitness terms does not add up to a) there's only one kind of social structure for that to work in and b) there's a necessary cultural interpretation of "family" that follows from that.
Furthermore, if you do want to go to borrowing off of a strict evolutionary logic and lodging things then in the behaviors of other primates you'll note that a) there's plenty of reason to think that homosexuality in primates is pretty normal and b) that the western notion of life-long monogamous pair-bonding is just that - a western, romantic notion. There's better reason to think that biologically we're rigged for "serial monogamy." So, if that true we should all be switching spouses every few years. I don't think that fits with the western culture notion either.
Trust me. I'm not the one that needs study up on this.(Still laughing).
And all of your 19 years makes you an expert? nuff said.
Umuzbekidding

Charlottesville, VA

#78 Feb 15, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Listen to yourself...no one but you mentioned "absolute truths" , just the accepted definition of marriage as per the dictionary of the english language. And since you brought God into it, I refer you to the bible (which you wished to avoid in your first post). You are incorrect.
dude - this IS a dispute over the very definition of marriage. So guess what - not everyone accepts the traditional definitional definition of marriage. Pointing to a dictionary does not provide any reason to do so. They have no special authority. They just reflect cultural convention. Guess what. The conventional meaning of marriage IS changing. So I have no earthly idea why you think pointing to a dictionary established anything.

And if you want to find a sound footing for establishing meanings, the bible is actually a big step down from the dictionary. If you are serious about the Judeo-Christian tradition - great. Follow it. But that stuff is a matter of personal belief. It isn't public law.
Umuzbekidding

Charlottesville, VA

#79 Feb 15, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>And all of your 19 years makes you an expert? nuff said.
I believe that the poster's comment was a reference to 19yrs of marriage - which we would think would add up to more than 19yrs old.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#80 Feb 15, 2013
Get the government out of marriage all together. Isn't it ironical that those that espouse non-intrusive limited and small government are now not just apologists but active proponents for it when it serves their needs? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#81 Feb 15, 2013
Dude wrote:
Get the government out of marriage all together. Isn't it ironical that those that espouse non-intrusive limited and small government are now not just apologists but active proponents for it when it serves their needs? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
Get the gays out of marriage all together. Isn't it ironical that those that espouse intrusive and bigger government are now not just apologists but active proponents for it when it serves their needs? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#82 Feb 15, 2013
Umuzbekidding wrote:
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I believe that the poster's comment was a reference to 19yrs of marriage - which we would think would add up to more than 19yrs old.
Still doesn't make them an expert at the english language. As stated, words come and go, but something that has been defined for hundreds of years, does not need to be "redefined" by a minority of the population. And the "legal" claims are BS...anyone can have the same legal property rights under law, it's just defined differently because the "union" is different than marriage. Trying to change the definition of marriage so you can try to equate it with heterosexuals is just a flimsy attempt to "normalize" the homosexuals choice of lifestyle. And that is what it comes down to, homosexuals trying to "normalize" their behavior. The behavior is already accepted by many, but it still can't be normalized by changing the meaning of a word. It can only serve to try and make the homosexual feel better about their deviant behavior.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#83 Feb 15, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Get the gays out of marriage all together. Isn't it ironical that those that espouse intrusive and bigger government are now not just apologists but active proponents for it when it serves their needs? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
I don't espouse bigger government, I espouse civil and constitutional liberties and personal property rights. Marriage is either a violation of the First Amendment, or the exclusion of gays is a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#84 Feb 15, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Still doesn't make them an expert at the english language. As stated, words come and go, but something that has been defined for hundreds of years, does not need to be "redefined" by a minority of the population. And the "legal" claims are BS...anyone can have the same legal property rights under law, it's just defined differently because the "union" is different than marriage. Trying to change the definition of marriage so you can try to equate it with heterosexuals is just a flimsy attempt to "normalize" the homosexuals choice of lifestyle. And that is what it comes down to, homosexuals trying to "normalize" their behavior. The behavior is already accepted by many, but it still can't be normalized by changing the meaning of a word. It can only serve to try and make the homosexual feel better about their deviant behavior.
why is marriage different than union?
JCS

Stuart, VA

#85 Feb 15, 2013
open minded wrote:
<quoted text>..and I suppose you think Blacks should still be sold as slaves, and jews should be put to death...I tell you what, its people like you that make me sick!
On both of your suppositions, I say no. I have never believed that Blacks should still be sold as slaves nor should they ever have been sold as slaves. I have visited Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps and any human being with a heart for humanity would never have allowed the Jewish people to be gassed nor to be shot in the head by fellow Jewish people and family members! I think everyone is entitled to their opinions but for you to say that it is people like me who make you sick then so be it.
Big C

Charlottesville, VA

#86 Feb 15, 2013
JCS wrote:
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On both of your suppositions, I say no. I have never believed that Blacks should still be sold as slaves nor should they ever have been sold as slaves. I have visited Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps and any human being with a heart for humanity would never have allowed the Jewish people to be gassed nor to be shot in the head by fellow Jewish people and family members! I think everyone is entitled to their opinions but for you to say that it is people like me who make you sick then so be it.
my family owned many slaves and I am proud of it!!as far as same sex marriage I cannot imagine why two men would want to pack each others turds or two women to imagine one was a man its just sick!this issue is thanks to OBAMA Voters!!! men who wish they were women and women who wish they were men.
Just so you know

Palmyra, VA

#87 Feb 15, 2013
Big C wrote:
<quoted text>my family owned many slaves and I am proud of it!!as far as same sex marriage I cannot imagine why two men would want to pack each others turds or two women to imagine one was a man its just sick!this issue is thanks to OBAMA Voters!!! men who wish they were women and women who wish they were men.
You haven't thought about any of that before have you?!? Seems like you know EXACTLY what goes on in other people's bedroom and how things work. It's not all about the sex. It's about love, something you are lacking by the sound of your rant.

I guess OBAMA made me say that too?

Grow up and get over this issue already! It's not ALL about the marriage, it's about being treated equally and respecting others.
Well now

Charlottesville, VA

#88 Feb 15, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
In response to "Well Now":
-"Oh yea, and you no little about the law if you believe that the Judeo-Christian religions are not the basis for current laws (both statutory and common law)."
Yes, yes, yes. No matter how you slice it our legal system reflects the values of a population of people that over time have been predominantly Judeo-Christian. However, this is a far cry from trying to say that any kind of biblical literalism is a valid basis for making decisions about marriage law or any other kind. If we wanted to do that we'd actually have to get rid of capitalism too, btw.
- "What is annoying about the pro gay marraige crowd is their insistance that everyone agree with their views while they insult/ridicule the beliefs of others."
I call that a complete misinterpretation. While certainly individuals who support such a movement will vary a great deal in the specifics of what they express and how, the "crowd" position - and the only thing being legally requested - is to have the same basic legal rights as heterosexual couples. There are HUGE piles of laws that apply the stuff about spouses (health insurance; bereavement benefits; social security; next of kin rights in medical situations; inheritance; etc. etc.) Most people take this for granted. For gay couples it creates really big issues and problems. So this has absolutely nothing to do with making anyone agree with anyone's views.
I, btw, am not an activist on this issue, and am a 19yrs married hetero male. I just happen to know that a) its none of my business whom someone chooses to love; and b) that this issue creates lots of problems for people who are just trying to live their lives.
At least you had a reasoned response... and yet were drawn into the nonsense that is posted on this type of site. I don't believe that marriage should be governed by the... well.. government at all. It is a commitment to another person, plain and simple. Why should the government intervene or why should anyone care? The government should not regulate "love" or many other things. Stop buying into the myth of "fairness" because that is such a subjective belief.
Fairness, yes,some have more than others. However, on the global stage, 99% of those bitching in the U.S.are better off than their neighbors in other countries.
Big C

Charlottesville, VA

#89 Feb 15, 2013
Just so you know wrote:
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You haven't thought about any of that before have you?!? Seems like you know EXACTLY what goes on in other people's bedroom and how things work. It's not all about the sex. It's about love, something you are lacking by the sound of your rant.
I guess OBAMA made me say that too?
Grow up and get over this issue already! It's not ALL about the marriage, it's about being treated equally and respecting others.
well now one can only imagine right? its sick!and yes obama voter he did!you and your kind should not be treated equally isnt that the subject? keep wearing your scarfs and using gloves to drive a car you pathetic!
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#91 Feb 19, 2013
Big C wrote:
<quoted text>well now one can only imagine right? its sick!and yes obama voter he did!you and your kind should not be treated equally isnt that the subject? keep wearing your scarfs and using gloves to drive a car you pathetic!
What do you have against speed racer? OH TRIXIE!
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#92 Feb 19, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>What do you have against speed racer? OH TRIXIE!
Just laughed my coffee right out of my nose! Thanks!
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#93 Feb 19, 2013
wth, just go the traditional route

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#94 Feb 19, 2013
The ignorance on this thread is pretty thick.

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