Why your religion has nothing to do with abortion: One outraged Virginian's perspective

Sep 17, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Feministing

If you've been following the conservative assault on reproductive rights, then you might know that Virginia recently suffered a right-wing takeover that threatens to shut down almost every single abortion clinic in the state.

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Orangelion wrote:
But if they could manage it would they need to make the choice not to have them? They are obviously worried about having children.
It doesn't MATTER whether they could "manage it" or not. Childfree women -- and men -- simply PREFER not to have children, and their personal reasons why are really none of YOUR business.

I'm still wondering why you have such issues with any woman or man who chooses to be childfree, since that doesn't affect anyone else's decision to HAVE kids. Do childfree people have too much money or FREEDOM that you don't have?
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It doesn't MATTER whether they could "manage it" or not. Childfree women -- and men -- simply PREFER not to have children, and their personal reasons why are really none of YOUR business.
I'm still wondering why you have such issues with any woman or man who chooses to be childfree, since that doesn't affect anyone else's decision to HAVE kids. Do childfree people have too much money or FREEDOM that you don't have?
I never said I had that issue, you simply can't tolerate anyone disagreeing with your nazi feminist doctrine. If a women overpowers a boy and forces his penis into her vagina, would that be rape? Oh its just an act of honour isn't it?
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I never said I had that issue, you simply can't tolerate anyone disagreeing with your nazi feminist doctrine. If a women overpowers a boy and forces his penis into her vagina, would that be rape? Oh its just an act of honour isn't it?
If you don't "have that issue" with childfree people, then why get so upset about them? Hmmm?
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If you don't "have that issue" with childfree people, then why get so upset about them? Hmmm?
I am not. I don't know what you are refering to, it was a passing comment.

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I never said I had that issue, you simply can't tolerate anyone disagreeing with your nazi feminist doctrine. If a women overpowers a boy and forces his penis into her vagina, would that be rape? Oh its just an act of honour isn't it?
What exactly does this have to do with your judgment of people who choose to not have children? What business is it of yours anyway?
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I am not. I don't know what you are refering to, it was a passing comment.
You're not...WHAT, exactly? You're not upset that people can and do decide never to have children? One would never know that, since you constantly insult anyone who consciously chooses NOT to have children.

If you're "not upset" as you CLAIM, then why do you keep saying childfree people are "selfish," "piss poor at life," and other such nonsense?
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You're not...WHAT, exactly? You're not upset that people can and do decide never to have children? One would never know that, since you constantly insult anyone who consciously chooses NOT to have children.
If you're "not upset" as you CLAIM, then why do you keep saying childfree people are "selfish," "piss poor at life," and other such nonsense?
That didn't imply I had problems with them, it was my perception of them. I couldn't care less about what happens to people like them.
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That didn't imply I had problems with them, it was my perception of them. I couldn't care less about what happens to people like them.
Oh BULL. I think you really DO have problems with childfree people, that's why you have such nasty perceptions of them and as you said, "couldn't care less about what happens to people like them."

By the way, I'm sure childfree people don't care much what pronatalist morons think either. They are ENJOYING their lives without children too much to worry about it.
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Oh BULL. I think you really DO have problems with childfree people, that's why you have such nasty perceptions of them and as you said, "couldn't care less about what happens to people like them."
By the way, I'm sure childfree people don't care much what pronatalist morons think either. They are ENJOYING their lives without children too much to worry about it.
No, it implies I look down at them and don't care about them. It was a passing comment. It is probably just about careFREE people in the first place. They are enjoying it, but that doesn't make them any less selfish.
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I'm carefree now my GF had her abortion. Call me selfish all you want dickhead. I can't stand kids.
The "orange" guy will call you selfish, all right, and I doubt he'll stop there. He really has some serious issues with people who consciously choose NOT to ever have children, not that anyone should care. Whether people have children or not is none of HIS bleeping business anyway.
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Keep my religion out of my thoughts on abortion? Fine. I'd still be against abortion if I were atheist or agnostic, because I can recognize the scientific fact that abortion destroys a developing human being. Whether I support legislation regulating abortion depends on the details in that proposed legislation, but that's the starting point from which I start forming my opinion.
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The "orange" guy will call you selfish, all right, and I doubt he'll stop there. He really has some serious issues with people who consciously choose NOT to ever have children, not that anyone should care. Whether people have children or not is none of HIS bleeping business anyway.
"Consciously choosing not to ever have children" (i.e. responsibly using birth control to prevent pregnancy) is indeed no one else's business. Destroying a developing human being through abortion - that's another matter entirely.
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"Consciously choosing not to ever have children" (i.e. responsibly using birth control to prevent pregnancy) is indeed no one else's business. Destroying a developing human being through abortion - that's another matter entirely.
Even if a woman terminates an unwanted pregnancy because she doesn't ever want pregnancy or children, it is still a private decision and no one else's business. That means it is none of YOUR business either.

Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, even if the birth control fails and a pregnancy happens. The ONLY person who decides whether or not to continue a pregnancy is the WOMAN who is pregnant. If it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision. Simple as that.

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<quoted text>"Consciously choosing not to ever have children" (i.e. responsibly using birth control to prevent pregnancy) is indeed no one else's business. Destroying a developing human being through abortion - that's another matter entirely.
It may be another matter entirely, but it's still no one else's business.

It's not my business how you exercise your right to the free practice of your religion, and if you have no religion, exercise your right to the free practice of no religion. The same is said about a woman's right to exercise her own judgment about her own body.

In my religion, an abortion is mandatory when the life of the mother is threatened by the pregnancy, at any stage in the pregnancy. In fact, the Talmud mandates that the fetus be removed, even if it means "limb by limb."

The fetus is NEVER superior to the mother, because the mother has a soul and the fetus does not, until birth.
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Abortion is the destruction of a human being, and our society steps in when life is in danger. "Simple as that". All the euphemisms and talk of "rights" don't change what abortion is.
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The fetus is NEVER superior to the mother, because the mother has a soul and the fetus does not, until birth.
Now who's injecting their religious beliefs into the issue? I don't think you can say with any certainty that the fetus doesn't have a soul, and I'm not sure that's even relevant to the issue. It doesn't change the scientific fact that abortion destroys a developing human being.
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Abortion is the destruction of a human being, and our society steps in when life is in danger. "Simple as that". All the euphemisms and talk of "rights" don't change what abortion is.
You can CALL abortion whatever you want, but I don't have to agree with any of your definitions. To me, abortion is the termination of an UNWANTED pregnancy, and it's a private decision between a woman and her doctor. It's none of YOUR business what a woman does about a pregnancy, and it's none of "society's" business either.

Motherhood is still optional, not required, and a woman can cheerfully REJECT that option if she doesn't want the hardships and responsibilities that motherhood involves. A woman has the same right NOT to have children as she does to be a mother. The only person who decides whether or not to continue a pregnancy is the woman who is pregnant. Therefore, if it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision. Simple as that.
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You can CALL abortion whatever you want, but I don't have to agree with any of your definitions.
Correct, I suppose. You can ignore whatever facts you want - that doesn't change them though.

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<quoted text>Correct, I suppose. You can ignore whatever facts you want - that doesn't change them though.
Here is a fact.

A woman/girl is not required to have her body used as a life support system to "entirely" benefit another against her will, just as a man is not required to do so.

Here is a question.

What does a woman/girl personally gain from carrying an unwanted pregnancy?

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Abortion is the destruction of a human being, and our society steps in when life is in danger. "Simple as that". All the euphemisms and talk of "rights" don't change what abortion is.
Abortion is a choice of a woman/girl who does not wish to carry a pregnancy. It is HER body, her entire body that carries the medical/physical factors. End of story.

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