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A close and very expensive race for Virginia's vacant Senate seat came to a close late Tuesday night.

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Governor Moron

Winchester, VA

#62 Nov 7, 2012
Just as well send Kaine to the senate, they added a lesbian earlier too, they needed a homosexual. Washington likes pairs of everything...
hondacivic

Charlottesville, VA

#63 Nov 7, 2012
Disillusioned wrote:
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I will also remind you and others that Tim Kaine was head of the DNC while Governor of Virginia, so we paid untold expenses while he performed Democrat business (refused to provide schedule information when requested). We had a part-time Governor while he received full pay from VA and DNC.
McDonnell is currently the chairman of the Republican Govenor's Association. How many events as chairman has it pulled him away from Virginia? How many out of state campaign events did he do for Romney?
fed up

Charlottesville, VA

#65 Nov 7, 2012
50% of the American population are asleep. They wake up a couple weeks berfore the election, see Obama posing with hurricane victims, think he must be okay and cast their vote. Next election, forget the issues. Republicans need to pick a candidate, have him/ her appear on the View, Dancing With The Stars, and some late night shows.
tax burden

United States

#66 Nov 7, 2012
Kaine is already pledging to raise taxes and kill jobs.
wow

Mobile, AL

#67 Nov 7, 2012
fed up wrote:
50% of the American population are asleep. They wake up a couple weeks berfore the election, see Obama posing with hurricane victims, think he must be okay and cast their vote. Next election, forget the issues. Republicans need to pick a candidate, have him/ her appear on the View, Dancing With The Stars, and some late night shows.
The GOP needs to stop being so extreme, the demographic of this nation is changing. They need to change with it.
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#68 Nov 7, 2012
fed up wrote:
50% of the American population are asleep. They wake up a couple weeks berfore the election, see Obama posing with hurricane victims, think he must be okay and cast their vote. Next election, forget the issues. Republicans need to pick a candidate, have him/ her appear on the View, Dancing With The Stars, and some late night shows.
And the same crowd that woke up weeks ago to tune in to Romney that was very different from the months leading up to the debates. The Romney that was touting tax cuts for the wealthy. The Romney that was against all of Obama's foreign policies. The Romney that believed in self-deportation. The Romney that was "severe conservative". They seen a candidate who has been on every side of every position. He was a bad choice from the very beginning for the GOP.

You are looking at all the wrong reasons for why the GOP lost the election. They have moved so far to the right, that the majority of the public does not agree. The lies and conspiracy theories that the GOP played toward Obama did not pan out. The obstruction that the public seen from the GOP that was used all the way through the first term to put the republican party first above the country backfired. The GOP let the tea party decide which direction the party was going to go, which led to alienating minorities and women. The GOP banked that old white males would carry them to victory but their calculations were off.

The problems inside the GOP are real and deep. You can have the GOP candidate go on all the shows you want and still stand far right, it won't make a difference. Feel free to try that though and let us know how that turns out.
Tired of it

Charlottesville, VA

#69 Nov 7, 2012
Disillusioned wrote:
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I suspect your calm demeanor is only due to the Democratic wins last night. While I do not recognize your "name", I assume you have read my postings and comments here before. If you have read any of my prior postings, you would have seen more in depth and "reason to political discussion."
Additionally, I am not sure how you are hearing "shouts" or "panic" in my post(s)-- you are imagining that.
Instead of summarizing all of the facts which I have written in prior posts, I will reiterate my most recent statement: Tim Kaine will vote in the Senate however Obama tells him, similar to how he was merely an extension of Obama as Governor of Virginia.
I will also remind you and others that Tim Kaine was head of the DNC while Governor of Virginia, so we paid untold expenses while he performed Democrat business (refused to provide schedule information when requested). We had a part-time Governor while he received full pay from VA and DNC.
I confess to not being familiar with your "body of work" though I'm sure its scintillating. I just stop by from time to time. Normally I get so depressed at the completely base and senseless level of discussion, get a little nauseous and go about my day.

In any case, with regards to my initial comment, this: "Puppet Kaine is ready to mimic Barry. Oh goody. Let the spending begin."

was simply empty and meaningless.

Here's another one that is empty and meaningless: "Tim Kaine will vote in the Senate however Obama tells him, similar to how he was merely an extension of Obama as Governor of Virginia."

Ok - right. Poor Timmy just hangs around doing nothing until he's told to by "the boss." Its quite a cutting analysis of political process.[sarcasm]

The bit about Kaine's connection to the DNC has already been addressed, and was absurd if it is supposed somehow be an indictment only of Kaine.

So, look - all of that is just empty, partisan nonsense. It doesn't actually say anything. Its just incendiary and contributes nothing. So I guess I'm sorry to not be familiar with your whole body of work on these boards.

As for the shrill and panicky stuff - oh, I'll be you have some in your body of work. But in this case I'll admit that part was more directed at Top Flight.

As for me, I think there's only one bigger disaster than democrats trying to rule - and that is if republicans try to rule. Its a disaster either way. The reason it is a disaster either way is because political power in our global economy is firmly in the back seat behind economic power. The mistake that conservatives/republicans make is that they generally think that providing more power to economic organizations is a good idea. And it is a good idea - for a small proportion of the globe's population. If you don't get that or think its a statement about "class warfare" (which its not), then learn a little world systems theory and then let me know.

The mistake that democrats make is that they think they can actually manage the mess. But it is unmanageable by its very nature. Its a disaster no matter how you slice it.

I don't think in terms of the US and its issues over the last 4 years. Nor do I even think in terms of the US over its 200+ year history. I think in terms of the development of global, corporate capitalism (which is not the same thing as markets or just capitalism all by itself) over the last 500 years. So the ways that people discuss our issues of political economy make as much sense to me as teats on a ball. That's why I often just don't post anything. A lot of it boils down to yelling about the fleas on a dog's but without noticing that the dog is not only headless, but is also actually an elephant.
steve

Troy, VA

#70 Nov 7, 2012
Mitt did loose wrote:
A great time to be alive. The end of the republican party as we know it. Never again will they be a viable alternative to the people, about time. The age of me first and the heck with my neighbor is over in politics. As stated last night by any number of talking heads the demographic in this country has changed, Romney didn't change with it. The best part? All his millionaire backers lost their shirts trying to put him in office. I have no qualms about saying, I told you so, I knew Obama would win because of the countries changing dynamic, plus, he really did what he could do alienate the female vote, I think he really takes a dim view of women, as his belief system would dictate. So write this date in the history books, the old fat white guys are on the way out, for good. Yes, the changing
dynamic.
Give me,give me.as long as 45% are on the goverment till and as stupid as they seem,we will never see another real president.If conservatives ever stoop low enough to beg for their votes then we are in a worl of hurt
finally

Mobile, AL

#71 Nov 7, 2012
fed up wrote:
50% of the American population are asleep. They wake up a couple weeks berfore the election, see Obama posing with hurricane victims, think he must be okay and cast their vote. Next election, forget the issues. Republicans need to pick a candidate, have him/ her appear on the View, Dancing With The Stars, and some late night shows.
ha, the conservatives have been asleep for 4 years waiting for their savior, woke up the day of the first debate and were mesmerized by the glow of their savior so that they can get rid of that nasty Obama. They didn't hear about the Bain days, or the dog that rides on the roof or the closing of planned parenthood or the tax increase for the middle class.

As far as Geo. Allen, why would the GOP line up behind a laughing stock last time he ran for the Senate, he embarrassed the entire state. Will he be deluded enough to run again in the future?
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#72 Nov 7, 2012
steve wrote:
<quoted text>dynamic.
Give me,give me.as long as 45% are on the goverment till and as stupid as they seem,we will never see another real president.If conservatives ever stoop low enough to beg for their votes then we are in a worl of hurt
History not your strongest subject? Even when it has only been one day. Gee, I don't know why Romney lost badly!
Dude

Marshall, VA

#73 Nov 8, 2012
hondacivic wrote:
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And the same crowd that woke up weeks ago to tune in to Romney that was very different from the months leading up to the debates. The Romney that was touting tax cuts for the wealthy. The Romney that was against all of Obama's foreign policies. The Romney that believed in self-deportation. The Romney that was "severe conservative". They seen a candidate who has been on every side of every position. He was a bad choice from the very beginning for the GOP.
You are looking at all the wrong reasons for why the GOP lost the election. They have moved so far to the right, that the majority of the public does not agree. The lies and conspiracy theories that the GOP played toward Obama did not pan out. The obstruction that the public seen from the GOP that was used all the way through the first term to put the republican party first above the country backfired. The GOP let the tea party decide which direction the party was going to go, which led to alienating minorities and women. The GOP banked that old white males would carry them to victory but their calculations were off.
The problems inside the GOP are real and deep. You can have the GOP candidate go on all the shows you want and still stand far right, it won't make a difference. Feel free to try that though and let us know how that turns out.
It appeared to me that they were looking for excuses. You're right, the republican party has a deep divide. It is between the secular fiscal conservatives and the social religiously conservative agenda.
Animal advocate

Springfield, NJ

#75 Nov 8, 2012
Off to Oblivion Mr Macaca wrote:
What an ungracious concession speech from Allen, telling people that the positive things he was wishing for are only available through him. It would never occur to him that he himself was the problem, and not that voters were accepting or rejecting values that he espoused as being his which are actually held by normal people in both parties.
May he find oblivion comfortable enough to stay there.
Amen.
Get Real

Washington, DC

#77 Nov 8, 2012
hondacivic wrote:
<quoted text>
History not your strongest subject? Even when it has only been one day. Gee, I don't know why Romney lost badly!
It wasn't just Romney and the Rs that lost...it's America that lost (and America would have lost even if he was elected). The people realized long ago that the government is just the public trough, and they continue to elect representatives who will give them more, direct things that effect all our lives (no more big gulps in NYC, medical tests that are not needed), etc. Those who can stand on their own and ask what they can do for their nation, not what the nation can do for them are a dying breed. Selfishness and greed continue to win out - it's all fun and games until the trough runs dry, then what?
buyerbeware

Crozet, VA

#78 Nov 8, 2012
Rex wrote:
<quoted text>You aren't very intelligent. You are nothing but a bully & your kids are probably bullys also! It was Obama's Re"pug"lican congress that put us in debt. The repuglican congress are a bunch of whiny babies that want their own way & will not work with the president like a normal adult should.
How does being the party of "NO", as you all so blithely put it, make the debt bigger? By saying no to larger government, less spending...tell me HOW that makes the debt bigger? You need to look to your own party to see the obstructionists (Reid). You now have 4 (more) years to unfook the mess our economy is in. I can hear the president now, "I thought I could change washington, I mean the debt problem, from inside, but you can't"...
buyerbeware

Crozet, VA

#79 Nov 8, 2012
Tired of it wrote:
<quoted text>
I confess to not being familiar with your "body of work" though I'm sure its scintillating. I just stop by from time to time. Normally I get so depressed at the completely base and senseless level of discussion, get a little nauseous and go about my day.
In any case, with regards to my initial comment, this: "Puppet Kaine is ready to mimic Barry. Oh goody. Let the spending begin."
was simply empty and meaningless.
Here's another one that is empty and meaningless: "Tim Kaine will vote in the Senate however Obama tells him, similar to how he was merely an extension of Obama as Governor of Virginia."
Ok - right. Poor Timmy just hangs around doing nothing until he's told to by "the boss." Its quite a cutting analysis of political process.[sarcasm]
The bit about Kaine's connection to the DNC has already been addressed, and was absurd if it is supposed somehow be an indictment only of Kaine.
So, look - all of that is just empty, partisan nonsense. It doesn't actually say anything. Its just incendiary and contributes nothing. So I guess I'm sorry to not be familiar with your whole body of work on these boards.
As for the shrill and panicky stuff - oh, I'll be you have some in your body of work. But in this case I'll admit that part was more directed at Top Flight.
As for me, I think there's only one bigger disaster than democrats trying to rule - and that is if republicans try to rule. Its a disaster either way. The reason it is a disaster either way is because political power in our global economy is firmly in the back seat behind economic power. The mistake that conservatives/republicans make is that they generally think that providing more power to economic organizations is a good idea. And it is a good idea - for a small proportion of the globe's population. If you don't get that or think its a statement about "class warfare" (which its not), then learn a little world systems theory and then let me know.
The mistake that democrats make is that they think they can actually manage the mess. But it is unmanageable by its very nature. Its a disaster no matter how you slice it.
I don't think in terms of the US and its issues over the last 4 years. Nor do I even think in terms of the US over its 200+ year history. I think in terms of the development of global, corporate capitalism (which is not the same thing as markets or just capitalism all by itself) over the last 500 years. So the ways that people discuss our issues of political economy make as much sense to me as teats on a ball. That's why I often just don't post anything. A lot of it boils down to yelling about the fleas on a dog's but without noticing that the dog is not only headless, but is also actually an elephant.
Your comments are now stored, and will be put in your face in 4 years when this mess is no better, or even worse. You have 4 (more)years to unfook it. Good luck.
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#80 Nov 8, 2012
buyerbeware wrote:
<quoted text>Your comments are now stored, and will be put in your face in 4 years when this mess is no better, or even worse. You have 4 (more)years to unfook it. Good luck.
government spending as a percentage of gdp is decreasing

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/20...

taxes are the lowest in 30 years

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/11/5...

fixing the deficit is easy huck, let bush's tax cuts expire, raise capital gains, estate tax, means test for medicare, lift payroll tax cap, cap mortgage deduction -- the options are endless

scale back the 'warfare state'
http://214.14.134.30/ebird2/eb files/e20121108910316.html
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#81 Nov 8, 2012
Tired of it

Charlottesville, VA

#82 Nov 8, 2012
buyerbeware wrote:
<quoted text>Your comments are now stored, and will be put in your face in 4 years when this mess is no better, or even worse. You have 4 (more)years to unfook it. Good luck.
I have no earthly idea what you are talking about, including what will be "put in my face," what it means to "unfook it," or what I have said that implies any optimism about the next 4 years.

How's this for optimism - the best hope for human kind is a very large doomsday asteroid on Dec 21. I'm hoping it hits my house. Because short of that we're going out the long painful way, and its not because of democrats or republicans or constitutions or "values" or debts or anything else.
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#83 Nov 8, 2012
future fodder for stewart/colbert/maher

"welcome back to the entertaining — or way over the top, depending on your point of view — Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.). Grayson, an ultra liberal — one of his bumper stickers said “Bush lied, people died”— trounced his opponent by a whopping 25 percent to reclaim a House seat"

" Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-Tenn.), the antiabortion doctor who pressured his patient and mistress to have an abortion — another woman reportedly claimed she had an affair with him back in 2000 and smoked pot with him — easily won re-election."

"Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), after a bit of a scare, squeaked through in a really close race. Good thing she raised that $13 million."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-lo...
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#84 Nov 8, 2012
Tired of it wrote:
<quoted text>

How's this for optimism - the best hope for human kind is a very large doomsday asteroid on Dec 21.
I'll keep my 'powder dry' just in case.

http://www.december212012.com/

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