GOP-On-GOP Attacks Leave Orrin Hatch ...

GOP-On-GOP Attacks Leave Orrin Hatch Fighting Mad

There are 52 comments on the National Public Radio story from Apr 12, 2012, titled GOP-On-GOP Attacks Leave Orrin Hatch Fighting Mad. In it, National Public Radio reports that:

Utah Republican Orrin Hatch has spent 36 years in the U.S. Senate, including stints as chairman of the Judiciary and Labor committees.

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Jack Warner

Germany

#45 Apr 13, 2012
PooPoo Platter wrote:
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LOL!!! Are you senile? Or are you merely stupid?
Orrin Hatch is a Senator because the voters of Utah sent him. If you don't like it, move to Utah & register to vote.
They have internet in Utah, so you can continue your spamming from there. LOL!!!
Hey POO I want you to tell us ONE positive thing Obama has done for the USA, just ONE! Bet you won't respond.
Cleo

Marquette, MI

#46 Apr 13, 2012
Jack Warner wrote:
<quoted text>Hey POO I want you to tell us ONE positive thing Obama has done for the USA, just ONE! Bet you won't respond.
He prevented the second greatest depression by spending federal money for infrastructure spending. He expanded the availability of food stamps so that farmers could continue to farm, and stores could continue to sell. He expanded health insurance for young adults. He also expanded the federal program of providing money for health care clinics so that they could see more people. He gave the orders that killed Bin Laden.

If that's not enough...tell me, what did the republicans do besides get us into two wars, give billionaires tax breaks, and trying to give social security money to wall street dirtbags?

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#47 Apr 13, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
Looking over Hatches long Debt Ceiling voting record, I have to say he's voted FOR it way too many times.
It's time for him to go. Send someone that has the guts to stop the run-away government spending.
Perhaps if a 3-term Congresswoman doesn't understand the Federal Budgetary process -- we should not expect YOU to get it, either.

This is how the Constitution lays it out: All budget bills must originate in the House, the Senate must uphold, and the President must sign the bill into law. Do NOT "take my word for it," just consult the Constitution.

The Debt Ceiling (DC) is a 1939 law, not found in the Constitution. It sets a limit to how much Federal borrowing may occur to fund Appropriations bills that exceed revenues.

Raising the DC is a routine bookkeeping matter -- done 18 times during Reagan's terms, and 7 times under Bush Lite. It merely authorizes the borrowing anticipated when Appropriations bills are passed. Currently, about 40% of authorized Federal spending is accomplished with borrowed funds. This is NOT news -- NOT a surprise to most.

Orrin Hatch voting to raise the DC was simply a matter of fiscal Integrity -- not doing so would result in the US defaulting on notes and contracts, and would cause a serious downgrade in the National credit rating.

You and Michele Bachmann do NOT understand that the time & place to have the "cut spending" debate is DURING the Appropriations process, when the decisions are made on spending how much on what. NOT AFTER!!

To legislate spending in the 3-part process defined in the Constitution, and THEN -- after the fact -- refuse to allow the needed borrowing required, is the HEIGHT of fiscal irresponsibility! That is exactly why S&P downgraded the national credit rating -- the partisan brou-ha-ha brought on by the Tea Party, coupled with Mitch McConnell's promise to do it again next time, simply demonstrates an inability to govern the nation for the benefit of all.

I hope this helps you understand how the Budget process actually works!

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#48 Apr 14, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You have proof of that? Or is that just your assumption.
you mean other than living in CT and watching him lose the democratic primary to an unknown, only to form his own party and pull in the senior vote?
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when he was 1st elected, he said that he would n't run after 2 terms, but he did.
then he turned his back on democrats in CT and became a republican right in front of our eyes.
Stupidity NOW

Saint Paul, MN

#49 Apr 14, 2012
Madaman wrote:
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Perhaps if a 3-term Congresswoman doesn't understand the Federal Budgetary process -- we should not expect YOU to get it, either.
This is how the Constitution lays it out:
You hopeless, arrogant turd, what in God's name makes you think anybody reads your 500 word blog posts let alone thinks a school bus driver is a constitutional expert??

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#50 Apr 14, 2012
anneutral wrote:
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you mean other than living in CT and watching him lose the democratic primary to an unknown, only to form his own party and pull in the senior vote?
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when he was 1st elected, he said that he would n't run after 2 terms, but he did.
then he turned his back on democrats in CT and became a republican right in front of our eyes.
But your claim is he was elected on name recognition. How do you know the people who voted for him didn't support his past record & policy positions?

If John Lieberman & Jack Lieberman had been running as well, would it have been a 3 way tie?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#51 Apr 14, 2012
anneutral wrote:
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you mean other than living in CT and watching him lose the democratic primary to an unknown, only to form his own party and pull in the senior vote?
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when he was 1st elected, he said that he would n't run after 2 terms, but he did.
then he turned his back on democrats in CT and became a republican right in front of our eyes.
Again, if it's simple name recognition which gets people elected, we'd have 535 Lincolns & Jeffersons & Washingtons & Roosevelts & Reagans & Kennedys & Eisenhowers sitting in Congress.

Sheeple are stupid, but they're not THAT stupid.

Since: Aug 09

Walnut, CA

#52 Apr 14, 2012
The wild-eyed right wingnuts on this post are too myopic to comprehend that old Orrin is right about the current state of the Retardican Party.

“Secular Human and AntiParty”

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#53 Apr 14, 2012
David Ash Burroughs wrote:
when there are close to 20 posts and all but 2 are the same guy, it looks like someone is talking to himself.
He's a little deranged. Sometimes he uses a different name and gets into his own little discussion.

“Secular Human and AntiParty”

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#54 Apr 14, 2012
Madaman wrote:
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Perhaps if a 3-term Congresswoman doesn't understand the Federal Budgetary process -- we should not expect YOU to get it, either.
This is how the Constitution lays it out: All budget bills must originate in the House, the Senate must uphold, and the President must sign the bill into law. Do NOT "take my word for it," just consult the Constitution.
The Debt Ceiling (DC) is a 1939 law, not found in the Constitution. It sets a limit to how much Federal borrowing may occur to fund Appropriations bills that exceed revenues.
Raising the DC is a routine bookkeeping matter -- done 18 times during Reagan's terms, and 7 times under Bush Lite. It merely authorizes the borrowing anticipated when Appropriations bills are passed. Currently, about 40% of authorized Federal spending is accomplished with borrowed funds. This is NOT news -- NOT a surprise to most.
Orrin Hatch voting to raise the DC was simply a matter of fiscal Integrity -- not doing so would result in the US defaulting on notes and contracts, and would cause a serious downgrade in the National credit rating.
You and Michele Bachmann do NOT understand that the time & place to have the "cut spending" debate is DURING the Appropriations process, when the decisions are made on spending how much on what. NOT AFTER!!
To legislate spending in the 3-part process defined in the Constitution, and THEN -- after the fact -- refuse to allow the needed borrowing required, is the HEIGHT of fiscal irresponsibility! That is exactly why S&P downgraded the national credit rating -- the partisan brou-ha-ha brought on by the Tea Party, coupled with Mitch McConnell's promise to do it again next time, simply demonstrates an inability to govern the nation for the benefit of all.
I hope this helps you understand how the Budget process actually works!
Well said, but sadly, he won't read it. Too many big words and it doesn't fit his narrative.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#55 Apr 14, 2012
Spent Bastard wrote:
<quoted text>Well said, but sadly, he won't read it. Too many big words and it doesn't fit his narrative.
Thanks! Sadly, you are probably right on both counts -- more proof that Retardicans are anti-education. They cannot support what they do not understand!

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#56 Apr 19, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
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You obviously read them so my work is done. LOL!
well I read your name 20 times but the long posts just looked like cut and pastes from the Limbaugh letter so I ignored them. Keep talking to yourself though. You will always have one convert.

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