Tea Party Activists Talk 2012 Plans

Jun 27, 2011 Read more: WFMZ 1,463
On Monday, conservative activists banded together in Washington to talk about their early 2012 electoral plans -- as well as some of their early frustrations. Read more
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BettyB

Hellertown, PA

#1 Jun 27, 2011
These people might as well shoot themselves in the foot and cut off their own noses. Taxes are lower now than under Reagan. Spending was to dig out of the mess created by the Bush tax cuts and wars started under him. We can't cut basic needs without it costing far more in the long run, it's foolish.

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Devil Dawg

Avondale, AZ

#2 Jun 27, 2011
BettyB wrote:
These people might as well shoot themselves in the foot and cut off their own noses. Taxes are lower now than under Reagan. Spending was to dig out of the mess created by the Bush tax cuts and wars started under him. We can't cut basic needs without it costing far more in the long run, it's foolish.
Bush, Bush, Bush.

Do you need meds to get out of the insane, degenerate world that you find yourself in, Betty?
Devil Dawg

Avondale, AZ

#3 Jun 27, 2011
BettyB wrote:
These people might as well shoot themselves in the foot and cut off their own noses. Taxes are lower now than under Reagan. Spending was to dig out of the mess created by the Bush tax cuts and wars started under him. We can't cut basic needs without it costing far more in the long run, it's foolish.
Pay for your own basic needs - that is not the function of government.

“Nobel Peace in Our Prize”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington, NY

#4 Jun 27, 2011
Devil Dawg wrote:
<quoted text>Pay for your own basic needs - that is not the function of government.
They just keep breeding without any idea how they will provide food, clothing, shelter or an education for their spawn. Well-intentioned, ham-handed liberals have created generations of good for nothings with all this free stuff. wtg.

“"I'm A Great American!"”

Since: Sep 08

Obama Nation! USA! USA!

#5 Jun 27, 2011
AW! The tears of the teabaggers!

They have only begun to feel frustration this election cycle!
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#6 Jun 27, 2011
BettyB wrote:
These people might as well shoot themselves in the foot and cut off their own noses. Taxes are lower now than under Reagan. Spending was to dig out of the mess created by the Bush tax cuts and wars started under him. We can't cut basic needs without it costing far more in the long run, it's foolish.
"The mess created by the Bush tax cuts"?!! REALLY?

Are you referring to the fact that more Americans were employed under George Bush than any president in American history? Or perhaps you were referring to the RECORD 52 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF JOB GROWTH? Or RECORD GOVERNMENT REVENUES?

That's what you call a mess?

"Mess" is spelled D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T. And Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, and Obama.

Democrat fiscal damage incarnate, in 5 consecutive posts....
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6...
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#7 Jun 27, 2011
How to Soak the Rich (the George Bush Way)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1146703050127...

"With the House and Senate preparing to vote on extending George W. Bush's investment tax cuts, it's no surprise the cries against "tax giveaways to the rich" grow increasingly shrill. Just yesterday Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid charged that the Bush tax plan "offers next to nothing to average Americans while giving away the store to multi-millionaires" and then fumed that it will "do much more for ExxonMobil board members than it will do for ExxonMobil customers."

Oh really. New IRS data released last month tell a very different story: In the aftermath of the Bush investment tax cuts, the federal income tax burden has substantially shifted onto the backs of the wealthy. Between 2002 and 2004, tax payments by those with adjusted gross incomes (AGI) of more than $200,000 a year, which is roughly 3% of taxpayers, increased by 19.4%-- more than double the 9.3% increase for all other taxpayers.

Between 2001 and 2004 (the most recent data), the percentage of federal income taxes paid by those with $200,000 incomes and above has risen to 46.6% from 40.5%. In other words, out of every 100 Americans, the wealthiest three are now paying close to the same amount in taxes as the other 97 combined. The richest income group pays a larger share of the tax burden than at anytime in the last 30 years with the exception of the late 1990s -- right before the artificially inflated high tech bubble burst.

Millionaires paid more, too. The tax share paid by Americans with an income above $1 million a year rose to 17.8% in 2003 from 16.9% in 2002, the year before the capital gains and dividend tax cuts.

[continues...]
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#8 Jun 27, 2011
[continued, Part 2 of 2]

The most astounding result from the IRS data is the deluge of revenues from the very taxes that were cut in 2003: capital gains and dividends. As shown in the nearby chart, capital gains receipts from 2002-04 have climbed by 79% after the reduction in the tax rate from 20% to 15%. Dividend tax receipts are up 35% from 2002 to 2004, even though the taxable rate fell from 39.6% to 15%. This is as clear evidence of a Laffer Curve effect as one will find: Lower rates produced increased revenues.

What explains this surge in tax revenues, especially at the high end of the income scale? The main factor at play here is the robust economic expansion, which has led to real income gains for most tax filers. Higher incomes mean higher tax payments. Between 2001 and 2004, the percentage of Americans with an income of more than $200,000 rose from 12.0% to 14.2%. The percentage of Americans earning more than $50,000 a year rose from 40.8% to 44.2%-- and that's just in two years. While these statistics are not inflation-adjusted by the IRS, price rises were relatively modest during these years, so adjusting wouldn't alter much.

We can already hear the left objecting that the rich are paying more taxes simply because they have hoarded all the income gains, while the middle class and poor wallow in economic quicksand. But, again, the IRS data tell a more upbeat story of widespread financial gains for American families. The slice of the total income pie captured by the richest 1%, 5% and 10% of Americans is lower today than in the last years of the Clinton administration.

So how can the media contort these statistics to conclude that the Bush tax cuts only benefited the affluent? The New York Times claims that the richest 0.1% got 5,000 times the tax benefit than those with less than $50,000 of income. That figure can only be true if one assumes that there were no economic benefits from the tax cuts whatsoever; and that lower taxes on income, capital gains and dividends resulted in no changes in the real economy -- not the value of stocks, not business spending, not employment, not capital flows into the U.S., not corporate dividend payments, not venture capital funding -- nothing. The underlying assumption of this static analysis is that tax cuts don't work and that incentives don't matter.

Of course, in the real world, financial incentives through tax policy changes matter a great deal in altering economic behavior. And we now have the evidence to confirm that the latest round of tax cuts worked -- five million new jobs, a 25% increase in business spending, 4% real economic growth for three years and a $4 trillion gain in net wealth. So now the very class-warfare groups who, three years ago, swore that the tax cuts would tank the economy rather than revive it, pretend that this robust expansion would have happened without the investment tax cuts. Many Democrats on Capitol Hill recite this fairy tale over and over.

One final footnote to this story: Just last week, the Department of the Treasury released its tax receipt data for March 2006. Tax collections for the past 12 months have exploded by 14.4%. We are now on course for a two-year increase in tax revenues of at least $500 billion, the largest two-year increase in tax revenue collections after adjusting for inflation ever recorded. So why are the leftists complaining so much? George Bush's tax rate cuts have been among the most successful policies to soak the rich in American history."
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#9 Jun 27, 2011
From: http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T50ESI...

Groups like the NYTimes like to use dollar to dollar comparisons to denounce the Bush tax cuts and refused to print the whole CBO report on the cuts. Some funny stats for the libs in the tax cuts for the rich camp:

Before Bush cuts, the top 20% of earners paid 81.2% of taxes.
After...85.3%

Before cuts, the bottom 20% paid negative 1.6%
After....negative 2.9%

Before cuts, the middle 20%....5.7%
After....4.7%

Second lowest 20%, before....1.1%
After....negative .9 (that means he took them off the tax rolls)

Here's another fun fact:
Tax revenues in 2006 exceeded a CBO estimate done WITHOUT the tax cuts by 47 billion.

And here is what happened to some indicators in the 6 months before and 6 months after the tax cuts went into effect:

before after
GDP growth 1.7 4.1
Pvt investment -.6 9.8
Fixed invst growth -7 +7
Jobs gained/lost -267k +307k

You libs are idiots.
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#10 Jun 27, 2011
From: http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T50ESI...

Here's what I always find humorous about the libbo taxcut arguments. Usually it comes in two forms-how will we pay for it? and, tax cuts for the rich don't increase tax revenue. After a little research today, I found this:

CBO reported that federal tax revenues grew 35%, or 625 billion from 2003 to 2006. Had revenues grown at the same rate as the economy, that increase would have been under 300 billion. The largest part of the increase in federal tax revenues after the Bush tax cuts-corporate income taxes.

Additionally, it appears tax revenues dropped in the last Clinton budget year as we were in a small recession. Let's look at what happened to tax revenues AFTER the tax cuts:
inc.
GDP tax rev (billions)
2003 11142.1 1156.25
2004 11867.8 1247.26
2005 12638.4 1490.91
2006 13398.9 1719.36
2007 14077.6 1883.54
2008 14441.4 1812.53

So, I'm curious -- GDP grew about 29.7% from 2003 to 2008. Income tax revenues grew almost 56% during that same time. So after the Bush tax cuts, income tax revenue grew at a rate almost double GDP. The problem isn't paying for the tax cuts. The problem is that the dipshits in DC got hold of this extra money and can't stop spending it.
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#11 Jun 27, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
AW! The tears of the teabaggers!
They have only begun to feel frustration this election cycle!
Ah, the tears of a progressive communist liberal clown....on his unicycle....juggling hate!
JJ Mirkin

Bangor, PA

#12 Jun 28, 2011
WH Commie StumbleBum wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the tears of a progressive communist liberal clown....on his unicycle....juggling hate!
you call these names to this guy
and you do what you accuse?
how about some sources for all that research you did

nevermind

I found it on Freedom Works wbsite

oh, our friends the Koch Bros.

you are the fool carrying their water for them

good luck

“I just hate stupid people”

Since: Apr 07

DEEP SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

#13 Jun 28, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
AW! The tears of the teabaggers!
They have only begun to feel frustration this election cycle!
Patty Cake, you have not even begun to experience frustration as your going to as you watch your Messiah go down faster during the next election cycle than Bwarney Fwrank at a San Fransicko bath house.
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#14 Jun 28, 2011
JJ Mirkin wrote:
<quoted text>
you call these names to this guy
and you do what you accuse?
how about some sources for all that research you did
nevermind
I found it on Freedom Works wbsite
oh, our friends the Koch Bros.
you are the fool carrying their water for them
good luck
So a missing link can't follow links? LOL! Tell me something I didn't know!

And the Koch brothers....are they related to George Soros? Whoops, they're American, not subversive leftist communist subversives.

A Guide to the George Soros Network
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCat...
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#15 Jun 28, 2011
Meanwhile, the assault on America from the left continues to be ratcheted up....

Globalist George Soros Launches Frontal Assault Against Tea Party -- September 3, 2010
http://www.infowars.com/globalist-soros-launc...

"Soros and the foundation left have launched a website designed to go after the growing Tea Party movement. Teapartytracker.org will post video interviews and blog entries gathered by folks on the false left who never grow weary of demonstrating their outrage over the very idea of a grassroots political effort overthrowing establishment Democrats and Republicans in the district of corporate criminals.

George Soros is desperate to trash the Tea Party.

Teapartytracker.org will be sponsored by the NAACP, Think Progress, New Left Media and Media Matters for America. Think Progress is a George Soros operation connected to John Podesta’s Center for American Progress. Podesta is Clinton’s former chief of staff. Media Matters for America is the brainchild of a MoveOn consultant and Podesta’s Center for American Progress. Soros is a major supporter of MoveOn.
....
In addition to so-called liberals attempting to discredit the Tea Party movement, a gaggle of anarchists also announced an effort to disrupt rallies in April.

According to Infoshop News, an anarchist website and forum, the Tea Party movement is “a coalition of conservatives, anti-Semites, fascists, libertarians, racists, constitutionalists, militia men, gun freaks, homophobes, Ron Paul supporters, Alex Jones conspiracy types and American flag wavers,” and because of this mischaracterization they should have their right to protest against the government undisrupted.

Considering the above, how do we know Soros’ operatives will not infiltrate Tea Party rallies and demonstrations with actors pretending to be racists and closet KKK members and then pass this off as evidence that the movement is rife with white supremacists?

Of course, we have no way of knowing for sure, not that we shouldn’t expect Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann over at MSNBC — a network that owes its very existence to the eugenicist Bill Gates and the death merchant General Electric – to show journalistic objectivity and not feature whatever cobbled together and staged propaganda is produced by the well-paid minions of George Soros."
__________

Their desperation is laughable.
WH Commie StumbleBum

Santa Monica, CA

#16 Jun 28, 2011
A COUP D'ÉTAT?

Scholars and historians have documented exhaustively the Left's obsession with (1) the acquisition of power, and (2) transforming America from a free-market, Constitution-respecting, freedom-loving, God-embracing society into a Socialist-cum-Communist "share the wealth" collective that echoes the beliefs and "values" of their heroes Marx and Engels.

But it takes money to bring about the kind of poverty both Socialism and Communism deliver to their masses. The kind of money only a few at the top enjoy while they'd like the rest of us to wait on food lines and appear before death panels of impersonal state functionaries who decide if we're worthy of antibiotics or surgery and, if not, convenient "go-to-sleep" pills.

The kind of money that "talks" - that can buy people off, finance revolutions, launder money, pay to rig voting machines, manipulate allies into positions of power (czars, anyone?), conveniently crash markets (as George Soros did in England in 1992, Asia in 1997, and, I believe, the U.S. in September 2008), make people disappear, make birth certificates and other vital records disappear and then make sure that an entire media, Congress and court system is terrified of "going there."

We all know of the many multimillionaires and billionaires - including Soros, the Saudi royal family, et al - who contributed to Obama's presidential campaign and continue to fund his leftist agenda, all of them with an ideological, religious, or personal stake in his remaining in power. And all of them part of a larger, more ubiquitous conspiracy - yes, conspiracy!- to conceal Obama's origins and true parentage.

Among them, as JB Williams has documented, are "international socialists working through CPUSA - SPUSA and DSAUSA, funded by literally hundreds of leftist front-groups operating as special interest 527 organizations. Here's a short list of the BIGGEST leftist front groups: America Coming Together - Joint Victory Campaign 2004 - Media Fund - Service Employees International Union - American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees - MoveOn.org - New Democrat Network - Sierra Club - EMILY's List - AFL-CIO - League of Conservation Voters."

Further, Williams asks: "Who spends an obscene $1-billion dollars to win a lousy $400,000-per-year job, and why?"

Richard Poe, award-winning journalist and New York Times-bestselling author, has written extensively on Soros and makes a good case that the Hungarian-born Jew and self-admitted Nazi collaborator is the primary brains and money behind Obama - and, I believe, his healthcare travesty. When President Bush was in office, Poe wrote that Soros talked openly of a "regime change" in the United States.

"What about our country offends Soros so deeply," Poe asked, "that he would tell the BBC - during a time of war - that he means to use all of his power to 'puncture the bubble of American supremacy'? Poe explained that Soros's Open Society Foundation, founded in 1984, "has spent millions promoting a radical agenda that includes abortion, feminism, gun control, abolition of capital punishment, voting rights for felons, drug legalization, euthanasia and gay marriage rights...the Soros cult preaches secularism, the godless faith of a world without nations, families, loyalty or tradition, a world in which the very words 'mother,''father,''husband,''w ife,''son' and 'daughter' will be bleached of meaning forever."

Soros, Poe continued, "is one of the world's leading promoters of euthanasia, or 'mercy killing.' Not only does he advocate 'physician-assisted suicide' for patients who choose death voluntarily, he also lobbies for the right of family members or court-appointed guardians to authorize the killing of patients whose wishes are not known." Sounds a lot like the Death Panels Sarah Palin warned about, doesn't it? Soros also founded the Project on Death in America [which] promotes suicide and euthanasia and urges doctors to warehouse terminally ill people????
serfs up

Clermont, FL

#17 Jun 28, 2011
BettyB wrote:
These people might as well shoot themselves in the foot and cut off their own noses. Taxes are lower now than under Reagan. Spending was to dig out of the mess created by the Bush tax cuts and wars started under him. We can't cut basic needs without it costing far more in the long run, it's foolish.
Taxes are lower then under Reagan! Bwhaaa! You be a bullchitt artist...
Knox

United States

#18 Jun 28, 2011
Obama=more lifetime judicial appointments
Obama=more extremist policies
Obama=more taxation, more restrictions
Obama-Defeat in 2012

And reclaim the Senate

Understand Pelosi is intent on taking back the Congress. She is targeting 2 dozen republican seats. Do we really want Pelosi back as Speaker of the House? This arrogant princess used the military plane at the speaker's disposal to fly her family back to CA. Put the family on a commercial flight or charter a private jet with your own money, not the taxpayers'!

BTW, Pelosi's income INCREASED by 62%.

NO to Pelosi, NO to Obama.

Michelle Obama's recent vacation with granny Robinson, Malia and Sacha and cousins cost the taxpayers a HALF A MILLION DOLLARS!
Responsibility

South San Francisco, CA

#19 Jun 28, 2011
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
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Methinks you doth protest too much the gaydom of others. Hmmmmmm.
Wall Street Government

Vero Beach, FL

#20 Jun 28, 2011
"Some 40 grassroots leaders from across the country spoke with reporters at the headquarters for FreedomWorks, a major conservative backer of the tea party movement". Grassroots? More like astroturf, Koch brothers and Dick Armey, Billionaire and Millionaire backers, committed to destroying working middle class America.

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