amFIX: Illegal immigrant list outrage

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Utah officials are trying to determine whether government data were used to compile a list of more than 1,300 alleged illegal immigrants that included contact information, Social Security numbers and pregnancy due dates. Full Story
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Kay

Lawrence, KS

#22 Jul 24, 2010
Bama Yankee wrote:
Get as outraged asyou want.
Fact is whomever leaked the information is in full compliance with the law that the Feds are suing Arizona over.
You can't pick and choose which federal laws you are going to enforce. Either enforce all of them, or none of them.
No...they are NOT in compliance. Never mind the fact you might have missed the fact that Arizona laws don't apply in Utah. Never mind that you might have missed the fact that the people who compiled and released the list broke federal and state confidentiality laws. Never mind that you might have missed the fact that the federal government is suing Arizona over the Arizona law, not the federal law...or Utah law.

Whew.

The fact...which you also apparently missed...is that the law in Arizona says that Arizona law enforcement has to check the residency status of people stopped/questioned/investigate d in Arizona 1) if the person is being questioned in Arizona in relation to breaking another law and 2) the police have reason to think the person might be in the country illegally.

Meaning that, no...releasing a Utah list of people who need to provide more information about something...a list compiled in Utah about people with Hispanic names in Utah...to the general public is NOT in compliance with ANY law.

By the way, if they had ONLY sent it to Arizona law enforcement, you still wouldn't have an argument, since it's a Utah list. If they had sent it to Utah law enforcement, you still wouldn't have an argument since this is an Arizona law.

Your WANTING releasing a list that includes social security numbers and due dates for pregant women to be legal doesn't make it legal.

Seriously, are you really going to claim that, should YOU get, say, a ticket for a traffic violation and get in a computer system, that means it's OK for some overzealous person to release YOUR name and address and DOB and social security number to the general public? Didn't think so.

Since: Apr 08

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#23 Jul 24, 2010
BoutTime wrote:
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When you say nits, you mean young American Citizens, right ?
People who compare humans to insects are a bit on the disturbed side of things.
If you are hoping to change the interpretation of the 14th ammendment, I would assume that your interpretation is the one which is invalid, since it does not apply.
An interpretation of the law which does apply is known as valid. One which does not apply (like yours) is actually the invalid one.
And four of the Supreme Court justices said the Second Amendment is invalid too. Thankfully, they were over ruled and one day, the so called "anchor baby" status will be also.
The United States is the only country to give citizenship status to the offspring of illegals and that needs to change or we won't have a country.
BoutTime

Heber City, UT

#24 Jul 24, 2010
Kay wrote:
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No...they are NOT in compliance. Never mind the fact you might have missed the fact that Arizona laws don't apply in Utah. Never mind that you might have missed the fact that the people who compiled and released the list broke federal and state confidentiality laws. Never mind that you might have missed the fact that the federal government is suing Arizona over the Arizona law, not the federal law...or Utah law.
Whew.
The fact...which you also apparently missed...is that the law in Arizona says that Arizona law enforcement has to check the residency status of people stopped/questioned/investigate d in Arizona 1) if the person is being questioned in Arizona in relation to breaking another law and 2) the police have reason to think the person might be in the country illegally.
Meaning that, no...releasing a Utah list of people who need to provide more information about something...a list compiled in Utah about people with Hispanic names in Utah...to the general public is NOT in compliance with ANY law.
By the way, if they had ONLY sent it to Arizona law enforcement, you still wouldn't have an argument, since it's a Utah list. If they had sent it to Utah law enforcement, you still wouldn't have an argument since this is an Arizona law.
Your WANTING releasing a list that includes social security numbers and due dates for pregant women to be legal doesn't make it legal.
Seriously, are you really going to claim that, should YOU get, say, a ticket for a traffic violation and get in a computer system, that means it's OK for some overzealous person to release YOUR name and address and DOB and social security number to the general public? Didn't think so.
Well said. Proof that the act of sending this information is illegal- the perps were immediately fired by the state, and the senior perp is waiting for the other shoe to drop. She will probably face a civil penalty rather than a criminal one.

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