Policy needed to address costs of ill...

Policy needed to address costs of illegal immigration

There are 26 comments on the www.dailyutahchronicle.com story from Feb 5, 2011, titled Policy needed to address costs of illegal immigration. In it, www.dailyutahchronicle.com reports that:

The national illegal immigrant population residing in the United States is currently more than four and a half times the total population of Utah and costs more to national taxpayers than the total value of Utah's 2010 gross domestic product.

For instance, conservative estimates in 2010 put Utah's state and local cost expenditures on illegal immigrants at $453 million, according to an article by the Federation for American Immigration Reform. Conversely, estimates put the property, sales and income taxes collected from illegal immigrants in Utah at $31.1 million. There is certainly a massive cost incurred by the Utah taxpayers in regards to supporting illegal immigrants within the state. However, the focus needs to be more on how to transform this problem into an efficient, equitable and legally viable situation.

Current illegal immigrant population estimates in Utah hover around 100,000, or roughly the size of Sandy or West Jordan. The illegal immigrant influx has been a growing trend over the years, but the recent recession did put a damper on the wave of total Hispanic migration to the state. As it stands now, the total Hispanic population of Utah is around 324,000, or 12 percent of the total Utah population. How do these numbers affect Utah's economy and society?

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Hayward, CA

#21 Feb 7, 2011
Down and Out wrote:
racer42 - Thank you both for your service. Silver medal huh!- Ouch!! I was to late for Vietnam but found a few hot spots - actually the truth be known, the hot spots found me!
What I meant, was that we came in Second Place during the Vietnam War Games. Fortunately for me, they were really bad shots so I never got even nicked. Guess I just learned to keep my head (and all other body parts) down and to keep checking my six.
Down and Out

New York, NY

#22 Feb 7, 2011
racer43 - Honestly I did not expect a whole lot of hospitality while visiting foreign countries and blowing targets apart with LGMs. That tends to make them a bit "testy" and upset, understandably so!! Luckily their return fire was not well aimed.
Down and Out

New York, NY

#23 Feb 7, 2011
racer42 - With you on the second place in the "War games."
My tongue in cheek response was full of sarcasm - possibly misplaced sarcasm, no harm intended to you and all the others that served in Vietnam!

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#24 Feb 8, 2011
Luca Brasi wrote:
<quoted text>. I am going to take just one point "One I every four hispanic women receive food stamps". Pay attention that it says hispanic women, not illegal immigrant hispanic women (actually reports says the percentage of hispanic illegal immigrants women who receive food stamps is very low). Second, remember that they don't receive the food stamps for them, but for their american citizen children. Third, what this statistics show is that 1 of every 4 hispanic women may be abusing the system, but, at the same time 3 of every 4 hispanic women, are playing by the rules and supporting their self and contributing to the system. When I advocacy for illegal immigrants I do it by those 3 of every 4 who play by the rules, I am not advocating for that 1 who his abusing the system (assuming they are on food stamps abusing the system, not because they really need the help). In other words, I am against the welfare system and the abuse from the people who play the system, but at the same time, I think that people trying to play by the rules, even here illegally, deserve a chance to regularize their legal status.
You carefully picked through the stats that support your amnesty agenda,ignoring info that doesn't bolster your arguement;

About 3 in 10 Hispanic mothers on food
stamps were born outside the United

three-quarters of the foreign-born
mothers on food stamps were not
U.S. citizens.

"...reports say the percentage of Hispanic illegal immigrants women (sic)who receive food stamps is very low..." Which 'reports'? Post link or citation.

Explain the contradictory statement of,"...people playing by the rules,even here illegally....".If one is in the U.S. without authorization,how is that considered 'playing by the rules'?
Park City

Salt Lake City, UT

#25 Feb 8, 2011
Luca Brasi wrote:
<quoted text> well, that is one source. If you don't like it, there are universities, independent think thanks, different kind of serious organizations, poll organizations, but Fair, numberusa, etc. Are biased organizations, and as I mentioned before I have read many of their report and they use words like "we assume", "we consider", and in their practice, for example, they count legal residents as illegals, or add the cost for emergency room enterely to illegals, when it is well know that not all the users of ER are Illegals, in fact, the majority of them are not, in other words, they manipulate facts and numbers, they are not reliable at all.
Stop and Look around you, there are illigals everywhere.

United States

#26 Feb 8, 2011
Those that have a personal vested interest in illegal immigration will always defend their pro-illegal position.

These pro-illegal personal vested interests include (yet, are not limited to) handing free Government benefits out to (anchor baby sponsored) illegals, profiting from doing business with illegal immigrants, providing (free) medical care to illegals, arresting and/or prosecuting illegals, providing legal counsel to illegals, "teaching (or, should we say "babysitting") illegals in our public schools, renting housing to illegals, the hiring of the small percentage of illegals that bother to work, smuggling illegal immigrants, selling fraudulent or stolen S.S. numbers to illegals, and purchasing illegal drugs from illegals, etc, etc, etc.

The rest of us "pro-lawful immigration" citizens are, in part, forced to pay for much of the above illegal immigrant "profiteering".

No amount of pro-illegal immigrant/criminal propaganda can change these facts.

BTW, It doesn't take long to recognize just who is on which side of this issue and why.

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