Legal Definition of "Mexican National"
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mexican

San Antonio, TX

#107 Sep 28, 2013
Mexican National wrote:
I'm shocked by the ignorance here. It's truly stunning and sickening.
For your information (widely available on the Internet, in case you need independent verification of the facts), Mexican nationals do not have to reside in Mexico. Just like Americans can go live elsewhere if they want. You, in fact, be a dual American citizen and, at the same time, a Mexican national. Mexico does not make you surrender your Mexican nationality in order to accept the nationality of your host country. If you are a documented resident of Mexico, you are most likely a Mexican Citizen, and the word citizen implies that you LIVE in Mexico, and you have VOTING RIGHTS there. If you are a Mexican Citizen, you are also a Mexican National, but the reverse is not necessarily true. In my case, I'm a Mexican National, but I don't live there, so I'm not a citizen and I don't vote there. I'm an American-born daughter of Mexican-born parents, so basically I'm a Mexican born in the United States. And before you crazy daisies flame me, no one was undocumented in my case, you bunch of ignorant wingnuts.
So, let's review:
1. I was born in the U.S.
2. I am a Mexican National, not a Mexican citizen
If a landlord is asking about nationality in a housing application, he is likely in violation of federal statutes that protect people from unfair or biased housing practices.
Why am I a Mexican National? Why would I want to be? Well, mainly so that I can walk out of this country and back into the country of my roots, and have rights there...own land, work---and not be considered a foreigner. Mexico would welcome me. And I'll take my education and my money with me to get away from this xenophobic sinkhole that does nothing but scapegoat Mexicans for the problems we have NOTHING to do with.
Most of the U.S. is a suburban trailer park. People who come here make it BETTER. It can't get any worse.
You're an arrogant little brat. You were making a well thought out point until the end when you called most of the US suburban trailer park. If you think this country is bad, maybe you should spend time in Mexico....at least the trailer park trash here have a trailer, so stfu and take your family and your littly bitchy ass back to shit hold of south america and shut your face
Serrano Red

United States

#108 Sep 28, 2013
john stewartson wrote:
june from sugar land texas get this threw your head not all mexicans are illegals do you even here yourself talk man you are so ignorant
most of them are
Ignorant

San Francisco, CA

#109 Mar 1, 2014
Yes, I am ignorant which is why I searched for "Mexican national". I saw the term used in the paper and wanted to understand the particular meaning of that. I guess that makes me a stunningly stupid, hateful and sickening.

I still do not understand how one can choose to be a Mexican national as well as US citizen.
But I doubt someone who is born here and a US citizen would be referred to as a Mexican National by the media. You might be a Mexican national, but the common term used is Hispanic/Latino.
American American

Midlothian, IL

#111 Jul 2, 2014
Texas needs to secede from the US or be nuked or something. Seems the dumbest, most wilfully ignorant Americans are in Texas. Texas is an embarrassment and America doesn't need it..
Cynthia Ackerman

United States

#112 Jul 13, 2014
john stewartson wrote:
june from sugar land texas get this threw your head not all mexicans are illegals do you even here yourself talk man you are so ignorant
who's ignorant? You can't even spell simple words and you are on a computer! Make sure to figure out how to use spell check! Dumb ASS!!
Phyllis

Mobile, AL

#113 Jul 31, 2014
You seem very angry to spout off like that over a simple question. I know many people who very much appreciate people from other countries and don't have a clue what you are talking about when you say "blaming Mexicans". What does that even mean?
Mexican National wrote:
I'm shocked by the ignorance here. It's truly stunning and sickening.
For your information (widely available on the Internet, in case you need independent verification of the facts), Mexican nationals do not have to reside in Mexico. Just like Americans can go live elsewhere if they want. You, in fact, be a dual American citizen and, at the same time, a Mexican national. Mexico does not make you surrender your Mexican nationality in order to accept the nationality of your host country. If you are a documented resident of Mexico, you are most likely a Mexican Citizen, and the word citizen implies that you LIVE in Mexico, and you have VOTING RIGHTS there. If you are a Mexican Citizen, you are also a Mexican National, but the reverse is not necessarily true. In my case, I'm a Mexican National, but I don't live there, so I'm not a citizen and I don't vote there. I'm an American-born daughter of Mexican-born parents, so basically I'm a Mexican born in the United States. And before you crazy daisies flame me, no one was undocumented in my case, you bunch of ignorant wingnuts.
So, let's review:
1. I was born in the U.S.
2. I am a Mexican National, not a Mexican citizen
If a landlord is asking about nationality in a housing application, he is likely in violation of federal statutes that protect people from unfair or biased housing practices.
Why am I a Mexican National? Why would I want to be? Well, mainly so that I can walk out of this country and back into the country of my roots, and have rights there...own land, work---and not be considered a foreigner. Mexico would welcome me. And I'll take my education and my money with me to get away from this xenophobic sinkhole that does nothing but scapegoat Mexicans for the problems we have NOTHING to do with.
Most of the U.S. is a suburban trailer park. People who come here make it BETTER. It can't get any worse.
Virginia

San Diego, CA

#114 Aug 19, 2014
Hey you dumies from denver and Teresa from big sandy. You both are wrong. First off the dummy from Denver needs to understand that sterio typing people shows how ignorant you are. And remember this God don't like ugly .and that's what you're being. And second Teresa from big sandy .you need to know how stupid you sound . I lived in this country all of my life. And I know that its not my country and I thank God its not your country or the big dummy's country its God country actually its Gods world and I don't see him leaving anyone of you in charge. Oh and yumex you sound so spoiled you need to check your self and thank God you are where you're at.one last thing ,there is only one race and I doubt you know what it is so I will tell you . its the HUMAN RACE . you guys should start acting like one.
Mr_Big_Balls

San Antonio, TX

#115 Oct 12, 2014
Mexican National wrote:
I'm shocked by the ignorance here. It's truly stunning and sickening.
For your information (widely available on the Internet, in case you need independent verification of the facts), Mexican nationals do not have to reside in Mexico. Just like Americans can go live elsewhere if they want. You, in fact, be a dual American citizen and, at the same time, a Mexican national. Mexico does not make you surrender your Mexican nationality in order to accept the nationality of your host country. If you are a documented resident of Mexico, you are most likely a Mexican Citizen, and the word citizen implies that you LIVE in Mexico, and you have VOTING RIGHTS there. If you are a Mexican Citizen, you are also a Mexican National, but the reverse is not necessarily true. In my case, I'm a Mexican National, but I don't live there, so I'm not a citizen and I don't vote there. I'm an American-born daughter of Mexican-born parents, so basically I'm a Mexican born in the United States. And before you crazy daisies flame me, no one was undocumented in my case, you bunch of ignorant wingnuts.
So, let's review:
1. I was born in the U.S.
2. I am a Mexican National, not a Mexican citizen
If a landlord is asking about nationality in a housing application, he is likely in violation of federal statutes that protect people from unfair or biased housing practices.
Why am I a Mexican National? Why would I want to be? Well, mainly so that I can walk out of this country and back into the country of my roots, and have rights there...own land, work---and not be considered a foreigner. Mexico would welcome me. And I'll take my education and my money with me to get away from this xenophobic sinkhole that does nothing but scapegoat Mexicans for the problems we have NOTHING to do with.
Most of the U.S. is a suburban trailer park. People who come here make it BETTER. It can't get any worse.
Since you hate it here in America and think we're all a bunch of racists, please go back to mee-he-co and stay there. Thanks.
Rod

Yakima, WA

#116 Feb 13, 2015
john stewartson wrote:
june from sugar land texas get this threw your head not all mexicans are illegals do you even here yourself talk man you are so ignorant
Ever thought of proofreading your response or learning to spell.?
Aric

Lewisville, TX

#117 Mar 8, 2015
Teresa wrote:
Mexican National, your comments are as blatantly hateful and stupid as you seem to think we are. If you're so down on this country, why the hell are you here, you dumb a s s. How dare you reap the benefits as a citizen and then talk trash about us like that. You should go to your beloved poverty-ridden, crime-filled Mexico with your head hung in shame for your remarks about a country that offers so much to you and your people. Ungrateful B@$*@#%.
Well said thank you Teresa
U_S_National

Fargo, ND

#118 May 7, 2016
US National wrote:
Mexican national is a Mexican citizen. A US national is a US citizen. Someone living here, was born in Mexico and speaks Spanish exclusively at home is a Mexican national. A Mexican that has become a US citizen is a Mexican American. Someone that has Mexican family roots, was born here and mainly speaks English is a US citizen. A US citizen that lives in Mexico and speaks English exclusively at home is a US citizen........
The United States Code, Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter I, Section 1101, Subdivision (a), Subparagraph (22) provides that "the term “national of the United States” means (A) a citizen of the United States, or (B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States." Accordingly, a "Mexican national" may be a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States (at Washington, D.C.). See the American Constitution of 1777, Articles of Confederation, Article IV, the American Constitution of 1787, Article VI, Clause I, and the American Constitution (1787), Article IV, Section 1, Clause 2. "I AM A CITIZEN OF THE U.S.A."
enrique

Los Angeles, CA

#120 May 19, 2016
daltonguy wrote:
I'm pretty sure that calling someone a "Mexican National" is just a polite but firm and official way calling someone a Mexican.
Well, No!
I see alot of legal terms being flung around so nonchalantly.
First of all , to be labeled as a U.S. citizen brands you are a subject our a slave...and one cannot be am American citizen there is no suchk thing because in the republic of America they're is no slavery. You have American nationals,who are free and sovereign. So,with that said, Mexican nationals are not wet backs or illegals, we are free and sovereign under the laws of God the I am; lawful under the common law and the legal system, which happens to be the law of men takes a back seat on our tour through this world.

So, don't be so proud to be legal and subjected to the repugnant laws of man, instead off being lawful under the law of God

Stay humble..
ashamed of you

Camarillo, CA

#121 Jul 21, 2016
Mexican National wrote:
I'm shocked by the ignorance here. It's truly stunning and sickening.
For your information (widely available on the Internet, in case you need independent verification of the facts), Mexican nationals do not have to reside in Mexico. Just like Americans can go live elsewhere if they want. You, in fact, be a dual American citizen and, at the same time, a Mexican national. Mexico does not make you surrender your Mexican nationality in order to accept the nationality of your host country. If you are a documented resident of Mexico, you are most likely a Mexican Citizen, and the word citizen implies that you LIVE in Mexico, and you have VOTING RIGHTS there. If you are a Mexican Citizen, you are also a Mexican National, but the reverse is not necessarily true. In my case, I'm a Mexican National, but I don't live there, so I'm not a citizen and I don't vote there. I'm an American-born daughter of Mexican-born parents, so basically I'm a Mexican born in the United States. And before you crazy daisies flame me, no one was undocumented in my case, you bunch of ignorant wingnuts.
So, let's review:
1. I was born in the U.S.
2. I am a Mexican National, not a Mexican citizen
If a landlord is asking about nationality in a housing application, he is likely in violation of federal statutes that protect people from unfair or biased housing practices.
Why am I a Mexican National? Why would I want to be? Well, mainly so that I can walk out of this country and back into the country of my roots, and have rights there...own land, work---and not be considered a foreigner. Mexico would welcome me. And I'll take my education and my money with me to get away from this xenophobic sinkhole that does nothing but scapegoat Mexicans for the problems we have NOTHING to do with.
Most of the U.S. is a suburban trailer park. People who come here make it BETTER. It can't get any worse.
Before you name call remember the discussion is people trying to understand definitions which is exactly what you suggest they do by looking on internest. I thought that was what started this thread to begin with. Also it can get much worse. Just go ask your relatives who actually live in Mexico who are not visiting but literally living and trying to eek out a living there. Abs how about trying to educate their children beyond a sixth grade equavilent. You my dear sound like a spoiled ignorant american that you so despise. Never ever knock people dor asking questions in order to expand their understanding on any subject which is what was happening here. By the way I am a lily white american girl who is ashamed of your attitude and lack of understanding as to what a question is. All the anger you have towads what you call ignorance is very misguided. Anyhow I bet your mexican family would not be happy with you either. Look in the mirror much. Viva la Mexico!!! Shame on you.
US Citizen

Tempe, AZ

#122 Thursday Nov 10
I am still really not clear after reading all of this back and forth bickering what a Mexican National is exactly and since there is no "Legal" definition anywhere, that leads me to believe they are not even recognized or there would be a definition in the dictionary or somewhere, but I have yet to find one! I agree with Teresa! You people want to bitch and complain about how bad you are treated here, and how your life is so bad. Well guess what, nobody asked you to come here! If you don't like it, or appreciate the opportunity you have here then go back to your own country! Nobody is holding a gun to your head to make you stay here, and I guarantee it's far better than where you came from. Stop acting like a victim because nobody cares! Life is hard for everyone your no different, and we don't owe you anything just because you decide to come here! Many of you sneak across the border and have a bunch of "anchor babies" and then call them "Mexican Nationals" because they were born here to Illegal parents! Once that happens then the whole family gets free healthcare and food stamps etc. which is BS. Why should we as Tax payers support you when you have never worked a day in your life to pay any taxes in OUR country?? Then you want to be able to just hop back and forth between our country and yours. So now tell me who is getting the raw end of the deal here? In my opinion you have NO right to be whining and complaining about Anything! You should be Grateful you have a right to be here! We don't go to your country asking for handouts and complain do we? No! Nothing in life is free for us anyways, so if you want to come here do it right! Become a Citizen the Right way! Work and support yourself like the rest of us! Be Grateful, and Stop complain! Or go back to where you came from!!
Slicko

Laredo, TX

#123 Friday Nov 11
US National wrote:
Mexican national is a Mexican citizen. A US national is a US citizen. Someone living here, was born in Mexico and speaks Spanish exclusively at home is a Mexican national. A Mexican that has become a US citizen is a Mexican American. Someone that has Mexican family roots, was born here and mainly speaks English is a US citizen. A US citizen that lives in Mexico and speaks English exclusively at home is a US citizen........
Like the term African-American, Mexican-American is a political term. Take African-American for example, John Kerry's wife, Teresa Heinz, is 100% white, was born in East Africa in what is now Mozambique, hence she is truly African-American, while 99% who clain A A are simply Black

A Mexican National who becomes an American Citizen is an American, although they can have dual citizenship and/or have dual nationality.

U. S. Department of State - Bureau of Consular Affairs

Section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states that “the term ‘national of the United States’ means (A) a citizen of the United States, or (B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.” Therefore, U.S. citizens are also U.S. nationals. Non-citizen nationality status refers only individuals who were born either in American Samoa or on Swains Island to parents who are not citizens of the United States. The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. national parents may be both a U.S. national and a national of the country of birth.

A U.S. national may acquire foreign nationality by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. national may not lose the nationality of the country of birth. U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another nationality does not risk losing U.S. nationality. However, a person who acquires a foreign nationality by applying for it may lose U.S. nationality. In order to lose U.S. nationality, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. nationality.

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct. The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. nationals may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist nationals abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality. Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose nationality.

Information on losing foreign nationality can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. nationality in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad.
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PATRICIA GUERRERO

Big Spring, TX

#124 Sunday Nov 13
i was born in the us but i consider my self a mexcican american. and for someone to tell me that there is no such thing as a mexcican is ignorant. for them to try to make put down that i am white is not right and i have a problem with that. i filled out a form that did not give me the option to be mexcican. they said there was no such thing as a mexcican. that illed me because i am not white! both my parents are mexcicans that does not mean they were born in mexcico.so yes there is such a person as a mexcican!
PATRICIA GUERRERO

Big Spring, TX

#125 Sunday Nov 13
BUT FOR THE US TOEXPECT US TO PUT OURSELF DOWN AS white is ignorant and stupid. i was born here but that does not make me white! I am mexcican american the main word is mexcican thank you. both my parents were born in the us but were raised to be proud of what and who we are Mexcican!
Ben Ghazi

Laredo, TX

#126 Tuesday Nov 15
PATRICIA GUERRERO wrote:
BUT FOR THE US TOEXPECT US TO PUT OURSELF DOWN AS white is ignorant and stupid. i was born here but that does not make me white! I am mexcican american the main word is mexcican thank you. both my parents were born in the us but were raised to be proud of what and who we are Mexcican!
Look it, stupid. Your race is WHITE. If you were born here, your nationality is American, and if your parents are Mexican, then your heritage is Mexican. BTW your heritage is Mex i can, not Mex see can.
commenter

France

#127 Saturday Dec 3
great
Ben Ghazi

Laredo, TX

#128 Saturday Dec 3
Jon Anthony wrote:
The poster "Mexican National" is correct and I enjoyed her comments. I wanted to add that ignorance has no boarder boundaries. I use to work and be acquainted with many Mexican Nationals traveling and visiting throughout California. I am a third gen American Citizen with Mexican family roots and both of my parents were born & raised in Texas & speak both Eng/Span fluently. I am not fluent in Spanish, neither do most of my cousins born in the US. I can get by with what I learned from 3 yrs of now dated college classes. Most of the Nationals cannot understand why or how this is possible. I often get comments like " Whats wrong with you, don't you like your culture?" I try to explain the older methods in the schools in 1960's was all English. no language cross over methodology that is encouraged today.I even pointed out that there are a million plus American citizens living in L.A. County of Mexican decent who do not speak Spanish fluently. They usually don't believe me or fully understand how that's possible. It unusually ends up with me leaving with a smile and them still shaking their heads in disbelief.
Mexican nationals are Mexicans born in Mexico and living here or another country. You may be of Mexican heritage, but you are not a Mexican national, nor is your nationality u are clearly an American, as are your parents. I am a first gen Irish and Polish American. I am an American citizen whose heritage is Irish on me mother's side and Polish on my father's. I doubt 0.10% Irish born here speak any Irish Gaelic, but probably as many as 5% Poles born here speak Polish and that depends on the region of the US they are born. Those who cling to their old country are anchors on progress: Progress to racial and national harmony. I have traveled extensively throughout Mexico and outside of great beer, and some very beautiful women I fail to see the contribution to the world of Mexico and her exiled millions. You, an American may find the cure to cancer but in all probability you would not have had the opportunity to do so had your forefathers stayed in Mexico.

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