Half Of Texas' Abortion Clinics Are Gone

Half Of Texas' Abortion Clinics Are Gone

There are 22 comments on the ThinkProgress story from Jul 18, 2014, titled Half Of Texas' Abortion Clinics Are Gone. In it, ThinkProgress reports that:

Exactly a year ago, despite Wendy Davis' historic 11-hour filibuster that energized pro-choice activists across the country, Texas approved a stringent package of abortion restrictions that represented some of the harshest in the nation.

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Welfare Nation

United States

#1 Jul 18, 2014
Well Texas, that's fine. Restrict the abortions, but be ready to pay out more for welfare, WIC, and the like.

Did you take advantage of the expanded Medicaid program? Thinking not.

And when children are born to people that do not want them, how well do you think that is going to work out?

Probably will need to expand your prison system.

And if you think capital punishment is the cheaper way to go, think again.

It costs more to execute because of the lengthy appeals process then it does to house a prisoner for life.

Lawyers love it.

Hope Texans are ready.
KIBBUTZ Socialism

Sarasota, FL

#2 Jul 18, 2014
After the cowardly izraelis attacked the USS LIBERTY , the ziotard mooches got more handouts from the US taxpayers.
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jul 23, 2014
Planned Parenthood is currently tossing $3 million down a rathole: into Abortion Barbie's hopeless campaign for Texas governor. She's raised diddly squat in Texas (most of her campaign cash comes from abortion hotbeds like San Francisco and New York), and she's 12.6 points behind pro-life Greg Abbott in poll averages.

With that $3 mil, PP could hire a better class of baby exterminators, ones who could actually get admitting privileges in nearby hospitals when they botch another abortion and endanger the life of the former mother.
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jul 23, 2014
Welfare Nation wrote:
Well Texas, that's fine. Restrict the abortions, but be ready to pay out more for welfare, WIC, and the like.
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Such heartlessness: http://i59.tinypic.com/2h49dp5.jpg

“lightly burnt,but still smokin”

Since: Dec 06

in the corner of your mind,

#5 Jul 23, 2014
could you be any more clueless Deborah? i'll bet you can
Brilliant

Beverly, MA

#6 Jul 23, 2014
Deborah wrote:
Planned Parenthood is currently tossing $3 million down a rathole: into Abortion Barbie's hopeless campaign for Texas governor. She's raised diddly squat in Texas (most of her campaign cash comes from abortion hotbeds like San Francisco and New York), and she's 12.6 points behind pro-life Greg Abbott in poll averages.
With that $3 mil, PP could hire a better class of baby exterminators, ones who could actually get admitting privileges in nearby hospitals when they botch another abortion and endanger the life of the former mother.
So have you adopted many kids? Otherwise, shut it.

I have no respect for mouthpieces unless they have a plan to take care of unwanted children.

Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions are also the ones screaming at bus loads of immigrant kids.

Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions also do not like birth control.

Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions do not adopt children.

Experience has shown me that folks who do not like abortions also do not like welfare.

Experience has shown me that when a homosexual couple wants to adopt a child, then these right to life nutters go off their rockers and want to put a stop to that.

So, as long as you are a fetus, then you have all kinds of rights and protections.

But once born, screw them, they are rotten little welfare bastards and should live in the worst poverty imaginable so that they will grow up and be self sufficient citizens.

That rarely works, and usually loads our prison system with people you cannot wait to gas.
Dan

United States

#7 Jul 23, 2014
Deborah wrote:
Planned Parenthood is currently tossing $3 million down a rathole: into Abortion Barbie's hopeless campaign for Texas governor. She's raised diddly squat in Texas (most of her campaign cash comes from abortion hotbeds like San Francisco and New York), and she's 12.6 points behind pro-life Greg Abbott in poll averages.
With that $3 mil, PP could hire a better class of baby exterminators, ones who could actually get admitting privileges in nearby hospitals when they botch another abortion and endanger the life of the former mother.
Actually, the $3M would have maybe helped the clinics build up to spec, unless the closure issue is related to admitting privilges or something.
truth-facts

Chillicothe, OH

#8 Jul 23, 2014
Brilliant wrote:
<quoted text>
So have you adopted many kids? Otherwise, shut it.
I have no respect for mouthpieces unless they have a plan to take care of unwanted children.
Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions are also the ones screaming at bus loads of immigrant kids.
Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions also do not like birth control.
Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions do not adopt children.
Experience has shown me that folks who do not like abortions also do not like welfare.
Experience has shown me that when a homosexual couple wants to adopt a child, then these right to life nutters go off their rockers and want to put a stop to that.
So, as long as you are a fetus, then you have all kinds of rights and protections.
But once born, screw them, they are rotten little welfare bastards and should live in the worst poverty imaginable so that they will grow up and be self sufficient citizens.
That rarely works, and usually loads our prison system with people you cannot wait to gas.
Not very "Brilliant" are you?
Truth Hurts

Beverly, MA

#9 Jul 23, 2014
truth-facts wrote:
<quoted text>Not very "Brilliant" are you?
Yeah, that is usually what folks say when they have no good argument and they know I am telling the truth.

Truth hurts and the folks on the far right cannot own up to their heartless kind of hypocrisy.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#10 Jul 26, 2014
Brilliant wrote:
<quoted text>
So have you adopted many kids? Otherwise, shut it.
I have no respect for mouthpieces unless they have a plan to take care of unwanted children.
Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions are also the ones screaming at bus loads of immigrant kids.
Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions also do not like birth control.
Experience has shown me that the same folks who do not like abortions do not adopt children.
Experience has shown me that folks who do not like abortions also do not like welfare.
Experience has shown me that when a homosexual couple wants to adopt a child, then these right to life nutters go off their rockers and want to put a stop to that.
So, as long as you are a fetus, then you have all kinds of rights and protections.
But once born, screw them, they are rotten little welfare bastards and should live in the worst poverty imaginable so that they will grow up and be self sufficient citizens.
That rarely works, and usually loads our prison system with people you cannot wait to gas.
LOL

"So have you adopted many kids? Otherwise, shut it.

Great premise. If you don't adopt 3 kids by noon tmorrow, I'll put them to death.

Unless I am willing to marry my neighbor's wife, I cannot prevent her husband from beating her; unless I am willing to adopt my neighbor's daughter, I cannot prevent her mother from abusing her; unless I am willing to hire ex-slaves for my business, I cannot say that the slave-owner should not own slaves.

Super logic.

I'll bet that no one else calls you "Brilliant".

“Clever words”

Since: Sep 09

constellate

#11 Jul 26, 2014
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
"So have you adopted many kids? Otherwise, shut it.
Great premise. If you don't adopt 3 kids by noon tmorrow, I'll put them to death.
Unless I am willing to marry my neighbor's wife, I cannot prevent her husband from beating her; unless I am willing to adopt my neighbor's daughter, I cannot prevent her mother from abusing her; unless I am willing to hire ex-slaves for my business, I cannot say that the slave-owner should not own slaves.
Super logic.
I'll bet that no one else calls you "Brilliant".
Dan, if abortion was criminalized, would you be in favor of building more state homes for unplaced children? Additional taxes be damned?

In a perfect world, abortion would be rare. Still, I remain puzzled that one woman at a time makes a personal medical decision that does not impact anyone but herself and possibly her mate. So much resultant outrage, so little basis.

It's a baby! Let it live! Waiting lines for adopting!

http://www.adoptamericanetwork.org/waiting-ch...

Right. If you click on the above link you'll find true heartbreak. The write up for the children is reminiscent of what I find when looking at "adopt a pet". They (all of them) deserve better.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#12 Jul 26, 2014
Junket wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan, if abortion was criminalized, would you be in favor of building more state homes for unplaced children? Additional taxes be damned?
In a perfect world, abortion would be rare. Still, I remain puzzled that one woman at a time makes a personal medical decision that does not impact anyone but herself and possibly her mate. So much resultant outrage, so little basis.
It's a baby! Let it live! Waiting lines for adopting!
http://www.adoptamericanetwork.org/waiting-ch...
Right. If you click on the above link you'll find true heartbreak. The write up for the children is reminiscent of what I find when looking at "adopt a pet". They (all of them) deserve better.
I pay taxes already to support children that aren't mine.

"does not impact anyone but herself and possibly her mate. So much resultant outrage, so little basis."

I disagree with that.

Why persist with the adoption angle when abortion is widely available and contraception ubiquitous?

I mean, abortion's been legal for 40+ years in the US, and it apparently hasn't ameliorated the instance of children waiting for adoption.
Cordwainer Trout

Cub Run, KY

#13 Jul 26, 2014
Only half are gone? It looks like those still having a modicum of respect for human life have some work left to do.

“Clever words”

Since: Sep 09

constellate

#14 Jul 27, 2014
Dan, point taken. We pay taxes for the good of our society. Or so I would like to think. If the government was a charity I could earmark where I want it to go, but alas....

I don't fully understand why contraception fails, but lack of any prevention at all is guaranteed to result in pregnancy in the majority of cases. Like playing RR.

There's been fewer abortions reported thanks to available, inexpensive contraception. The "just say no" campaign was a resounding failure. Education with age appropriate material seems logical and may even prove helpful.

Children waiting to be adopted (overall) have stayed the same since 1973? I find that difficult to believe. No doubt babies are in high demand, but infertile couples shouldn't be choosy. Agree?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#15 Jul 27, 2014
Junket wrote:
Dan, point taken. We pay taxes for the good of our society. Or so I would like to think. If the government was a charity I could earmark where I want it to go, but alas....
I don't fully understand why contraception fails, but lack of any prevention at all is guaranteed to result in pregnancy in the majority of cases. Like playing RR.
There's been fewer abortions reported thanks to available, inexpensive contraception. The "just say no" campaign was a resounding failure. Education with age appropriate material seems logical and may even prove helpful.
Children waiting to be adopted (overall) have stayed the same since 1973? I find that difficult to believe. No doubt babies are in high demand, but infertile couples shouldn't be choosy. Agree?
I didn't say "stayed the same". I said that legal abortion since 1973 hadn't removed the occurrence of children waiting to be adopted, so I wondered what linkage you were trying to make by bringing it up.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#16 Jul 27, 2014
Junket wrote:
Dan, point taken. We pay taxes for the good of our society. Or so I would like to think. If the government was a charity I could earmark where I want it to go, but alas....
I don't fully understand why contraception fails, but lack of any prevention at all is guaranteed to result in pregnancy in the majority of cases. Like playing RR.
There's been fewer abortions reported thanks to available, inexpensive contraception. The "just say no" campaign was a resounding failure. Education with age appropriate material seems logical and may even prove helpful.
Children waiting to be adopted (overall) have stayed the same since 1973? I find that difficult to believe. No doubt babies are in high demand, but infertile couples shouldn't be choosy. Agree?
....and charities ARE charities, so write them a check, right?

“Clever words”

Since: Sep 09

constellate

#17 Jul 27, 2014
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say "stayed the same". I said that legal abortion since 1973 hadn't removed the occurrence of children waiting to be adopted, so I wondered what linkage you were trying to make by bringing it up.
Children, likely the same number (percentage wise to the population). Newborns seem to be in scant supply though. Which was my point (no link), should the infertile be choosy? Why should a woman (unless she's a paid surrogate) sustain a pregnancy only to give the infant away?

“Clever words”

Since: Sep 09

constellate

#18 Jul 27, 2014
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
....and charities ARE charities, so write them a check, right?
Wait a minute. That was not my point either. No one I know pays taxes and gets to have it earmarked for their pet concerns. But the ones that complain the most about social services are also vocal about banning abortion. Hypocrites, doncha think?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#19 Jul 27, 2014
Junket wrote:
<quoted text>
Children, likely the same number (percentage wise to the population). Newborns seem to be in scant supply though. Which was my point (no link), should the infertile be choosy? Why should a woman (unless she's a paid surrogate) sustain a pregnancy only to give the infant away?
If we knew that. we'd solve the adoption problem, I guess.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#20 Jul 27, 2014
Junket wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait a minute. That was not my point either. No one I know pays taxes and gets to have it earmarked for their pet concerns. But the ones that complain the most about social services are also vocal about banning abortion. Hypocrites, doncha think?
I simply meant that charities are present that one can earmark donations for, vs. wishing the government would allocate tax revenue as one wished.

"But the ones that complain the most about social services are also vocal about banning abortion. Hypocrites, doncha think?"

That's boilerplate, in my opinion. It insists a dichotomy that doesn't necessarily exist in order to vilify people who oppose abortion. A variant of the "once they're born, they don't care about them" thing.

The Catholic Church, for example, hates abortion and is a tireless advocate for soical services and commits vast resources to charitable works.

If you were speaking of individuals, it varies as people vary.

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