Texas abortion clinics stay open following ruling

Oct 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Northern Michigan News

The only abortion clinic in a 300-mile swath of West Texas can resume taking appointments Tuesday, after a federal judge struck down new restrictions that would have effectively shuttered it and at least a dozen other clinics across the state.

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These are your Murder, Inc facilities, sanctioned by your communist government.

this same government is against the death penalty.
Realistically, someone can murder one person or a Muslim can commit jihad and murder 100 people - the penalty would be no more severe.

Convicted murderers even murder people while they are incarcerated, for no additional penalty.
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germs+many on Robotopic!! ;-000h, hope U is mute.com/AkimVonSigurd

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A State has every right and responsibility to oversee the medical standing and professionalism of its doctors. A Federal Judge stepping in to tell a State it can not require strict professional standards of its doctors is a horrifically unbalanced and biased decision. Requiring a doctor to have a professional relationship with a local hospital so he/she may respond appropriately and timely to a patient's needs from local offices and clinics is a reasonable requirement.
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Cordwainer Trout wrote:
A State has every right and responsibility to oversee the medical standing and professionalism of its doctors. A Federal Judge stepping in to tell a State it can not require strict professional standards of its doctors is a horrifically unbalanced and biased decision. Requiring a doctor to have a professional relationship with a local hospital so he/she may respond appropriately and timely to a patient's needs from local offices and clinics is a reasonable requirement.
Oh PLEASE. Do you really expect me to buy that ridiculous claim? If you do, tough luck, sparky.

Requiring doctors who provide abortions to have affiliations with the local hospitals was nothing more than a targeted effort by anti-choice politicians to close down as many women's clinics in Texas as possible. I love it when Federal judges stand up to these fanatics and rule such draconian laws as unconstitutional. That was the best news I heard yesterday.
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Oh PLEASE. Do you really expect me to buy that ridiculous claim? If you do, tough luck, sparky.
Requiring doctors who provide abortions to have affiliations with the local hospitals was nothing more than a targeted effort by anti-choice politicians to close down as many women's clinics in Texas as possible. I love it when Federal judges stand up to these fanatics and rule such draconian laws as unconstitutional. That was the best news I heard yesterday.
We don't like your killer mentalities; that's true.

However, requiring States to forgo their Constitutional right to oversee their professionals has nothing to do with protecting women, actually putting them in harms way for the convenience of murderous doctors having no oversight on what they do. The Judge's ruling is nothing more than a targeted effort by murderous phonies to tell clinics they don't have to live up to professional standards to commit their horrible deeds.

The State's right to oversee professional standards has more reason and logic, than the incredible genuflecting arguments of baby killers.
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Cordwainer Trout wrote:
1. We don't like your killer mentalities; that's true.
2. However, requiring States to forgo their Constitutional right to oversee their professionals has nothing to do with protecting women, actually putting them in harms way for the convenience of murderous doctors having no oversight on what they do. The Judge's ruling is nothing more than a targeted effort by murderous phonies to tell clinics they don't have to live up to professional standards to commit their horrible deeds. The State's right to oversee professional standards has more reason and logic, than the incredible genuflecting arguments of baby killers.
1. You don't like it that women can decide for OURSELVES whether or not to continue pregnancies, that's true. The funny thing is that you imagine I care what anti-choice imbeciles like or don't like.

2. You can make all the self-righteous claims about "state's rights" you want, sparky. I'm not buying them for a New York minute. Texas is one of the most ANTI-CHOICE states in the country, thanks to its toxic repukelian "leadership." It was great to hear that a Federal judge had the courage to rule against them, and I hope this ruling will stand.
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1. You don't like it that women can decide for OURSELVES whether or not to continue pregnancies, that's true. The funny thing is that you imagine I care what anti-choice imbeciles like or don't like.
2. You can make all the self-righteous claims about "state's rights" you want, sparky. I'm not buying them for a New York minute. Texas is one of the most ANTI-CHOICE states in the country, thanks to its toxic repukelian "leadership." It was great to hear that a Federal judge had the courage to rule against them, and I hope this ruling will stand.
Your "choice" assertions are bullshit. You had a choice to not become pregnant, to control yourself and your lusts. Instead, you and 99% of your fellow killers use abortion as birth control. You're sick, twisted and criminals against humanity.
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Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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We don't like your killer mentalities; that's true.
However, requiring States to forgo their Constitutional right to oversee their professionals has nothing to do with protecting women, actually putting them in harms way for the convenience of murderous doctors having no oversight on what they do. The Judge's ruling is nothing more than a targeted effort by murderous phonies to tell clinics they don't have to live up to professional standards to commit their horrible deeds.
The State's right to oversee professional standards has more reason and logic, than the incredible genuflecting arguments of baby killers.
Oh PLEASE, tell the truth, this was never an issue until anti choice supporters like you figured it as a technically they could try to use to outlaw abortion. Don't hide your true beliefs, you think abortions should be illegal and this is an end run around constitutional court decisions. Do you use birth control, if you do that makes you a murderer too according to your logic.
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Oh PLEASE, tell the truth, this was never an issue until anti choice supporters like you figured it as a technically they could try to use to outlaw abortion. Don't hide your true beliefs, you think abortions should be illegal and this is an end run around constitutional court decisions. Do you use birth control, if you do that makes you a murderer too according to your logic.
No one is hiding true beliefs. There are many avenues with the Roe v Wade decision to challenge, attack, minimize, change and abolish its provisions. On the other hand, those killing babies have never been honest about what they do.
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No one is hiding true beliefs. There are many avenues with the Roe v Wade decision to challenge, attack, minimize, change and abolish its provisions. On the other hand, those killing babies have never been honest about what they do.
If they were killing babies then you wuld have a point but they are not so like I said you are hiding your true beliefs. This is why we need a court to define the constitution to keep people like you from writing it to suit your religion. It is a waste of time time to even discuss it with you because not matter what the facts or what the law you would would never change your mind.

Everyone draws a line, even you, even the pope, there is no difference in saying abortion is murder and saying birth control is murder. If it were not for people like you and people who hate gays we would have had a different outcome in recent elections and there would be no Obamacare.
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If they were killing babies then you wuld have a point but they are not so like I said you are hiding your true beliefs. This is why we need a court to define the constitution to keep people like you from writing it to suit your religion. It is a waste of time time to even discuss it with you because not matter what the facts or what the law you would would never change your mind.
Everyone draws a line, even you, even the pope, there is no difference in saying abortion is murder and saying birth control is murder. If it were not for people like you and people who hate gays we would have had a different outcome in recent elections and there would be no Obamacare.
Your hypocrisy is astounding. You bring up elections needing to be different, but have no respect for the plurality of citizens electing the Texas Legislators and Governor making the law requiring professionalism of the doctors. Just because your side can't find enough Doctor Mengeles to perform you little murders, you think standards should allow the ones you do find to travel around here and there performing their ghastly deeds. We've recently seen some of the horrendous results of your traveling, non-overseen purveyors of death... instead of allowing them to be brought under some control, you want them to be validated. You're sick. No matter the crimes, no matter the level of inhumanity practiced by your fewer and fewer doctors of death, you whine about a bunch of female pigs unable to control themselves. Instead, you want them to affirm and rejoice in their killer status. You're sick and deranged and we are only pointing it out repeatedly. That's what you don't like. It's a criminal mindset...

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Oh PLEASE. Do you really expect me to buy that ridiculous claim? If you do, tough luck, sparky.
Requiring doctors who provide abortions to have affiliations with the local hospitals was nothing more than a targeted effort by anti-choice politicians to close down as many women's clinics in Texas as possible. I love it when Federal judges stand up to these fanatics and rule such draconian laws as unconstitutional. That was the best news I heard yesterday.
I cheered too. it was another win for the good guys.
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Notice that there is only 1 woman on this thread weighing in on this issue.
And read what she said.
The males posting should realize their opinions on this are like their a**holes.
Great that you've got one, but we don't want see 'em.

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Your hypocrisy is astounding. You bring up elections needing to be different, but have no respect for the plurality of citizens electing the Texas Legislators and Governor making the law requiring professionalism of the doctors. Just because your side can't find enough Doctor Mengeles to perform you little murders, you think standards should allow the ones you do find to travel around here and there performing their ghastly deeds. We've recently seen some of the horrendous results of your traveling, non-overseen purveyors of death... instead of allowing them to be brought under some control, you want them to be validated. You're sick. No matter the crimes, no matter the level of inhumanity practiced by your fewer and fewer doctors of death, you whine about a bunch of female pigs unable to control themselves. Instead, you want them to affirm and rejoice in their killer status. You're sick and deranged and we are only pointing it out repeatedly. That's what you don't like. It's a criminal mindset...
I don't like to get confrontational... but... You are so full of shit.

Texas was "wrong" like they SO OFTEN are, trying to make an end run around the constitution, and they got slapped down for it.

Even the doctors in Texas testified that this was BS drummed up by the politicians. It has nothing to do with them trying to legitimately oversee health care, it was an "excuse" to try to shut down abortion clinics pure and simple. "States rights" don't trump federal law and national concerns. If that were so, there would still be segregation in the south.

Look... I am a man, and I just want to say that the whole abortion issue should be decided by women since they are the ones this affects. Men who oppose abortion need to STFU. It's ironic that all these rabidly pro-life types think that the "rights" of a fetus should somehow trump the rights of an actual person. They care so passionately about the "rights" of a fetus, but don't give a damn about the life/welfare of a child after it is actually born. I wonder how many rabidly pro-life folks have actually adopted a child? A lot of pro-life folks also oppose programs that would help put food on the table for low income unwed and/or poor mothers.

So to sum up... you guys think that a fetus should be protected at all costs, but once a baby is born you couldn't give a damn about what happens to it... then it's someone else's problem.

Your hypocrisy sickens me. Texas is perhaps the most backwards state in the union. I'm happy to see someone with authority stepping in and telling those pukes to straighten up.
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Ah yes, the Texas Republicans. Against wasteful spending but, called a special session costing millions of dollars, to pass legislation that has already been ruled unconstitutional by another federal court. And, now will spend millions more defending the unconstitutional law.
Those fricken morons are the “guardians” of Texas money.
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TN Reader wrote:
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I don't like to get confrontational... but... You are so full of shit.
Texas was "wrong" like they SO OFTEN are, trying to make an end run around the constitution, and they got slapped down for it.
Even the doctors in Texas testified that this was BS drummed up by the politicians. It has nothing to do with them trying to legitimately oversee health care, it was an "excuse" to try to shut down abortion clinics pure and simple. "States rights" don't trump federal law and national concerns. If that were so, there would still be segregation in the south.
Look... I am a man, and I just want to say that the whole abortion issue should be decided by women since they are the ones this affects. Men who oppose abortion need to STFU. It's ironic that all these rabidly pro-life types think that the "rights" of a fetus should somehow trump the rights of an actual person. They care so passionately about the "rights" of a fetus, but don't give a damn about the life/welfare of a child after it is actually born. I wonder how many rabidly pro-life folks have actually adopted a child? A lot of pro-life folks also oppose programs that would help put food on the table for low income unwed and/or poor mothers.
So to sum up... you guys think that a fetus should be protected at all costs, but once a baby is born you couldn't give a damn about what happens to it... then it's someone else's problem.
Your hypocrisy sickens me. Texas is perhaps the most backwards state in the union. I'm happy to see someone with authority stepping in and telling those pukes to straighten up.
Although Coldwater's taking the thing in a different direction, I do believe that the appeals that TX will make on this will be to the point of states being allowed to regulate commerce and/or medical practice in the state.

RvW did make abortion legal, but I'm not sure how someone will make the case that the Constitution prohibits regulation of it by the states. Many things that are legal are still regulated.

Should be interesting.
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TN Reader wrote:
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I don't like to get confrontational... but... You are so full of shit.
Texas was "wrong" like they SO OFTEN are, trying to make an end run around the constitution, and they got slapped down for it.
Even the doctors in Texas testified that this was BS drummed up by the politicians. It has nothing to do with them trying to legitimately oversee health care, it was an "excuse" to try to shut down abortion clinics pure and simple. "States rights" don't trump federal law and national concerns. If that were so, there would still be segregation in the south.
Look... I am a man, and I just want to say that the whole abortion issue should be decided by women since they are the ones this affects. Men who oppose abortion need to STFU. It's ironic that all these rabidly pro-life types think that the "rights" of a fetus should somehow trump the rights of an actual person. They care so passionately about the "rights" of a fetus, but don't give a damn about the life/welfare of a child after it is actually born. I wonder how many rabidly pro-life folks have actually adopted a child? A lot of pro-life folks also oppose programs that would help put food on the table for low income unwed and/or poor mothers.
So to sum up... you guys think that a fetus should be protected at all costs, but once a baby is born you couldn't give a damn about what happens to it... then it's someone else's problem.
Your hypocrisy sickens me. Texas is perhaps the most backwards state in the union. I'm happy to see someone with authority stepping in and telling those pukes to straighten up.
Repeating my criticism back to me shows the shallowness of your position. Further, there is no evidence whatsoever, that pro-life people forget about babies after they're born. That is extreme rhetoric worthy only of a doper suffering delusions.

Lastly, the defenders of this Judge's decision seem to desire taking it beyond where he took it. Only one small section of the law was temporarily voided; it will go to the Supremes and they will confirm a State has the right to set standards for doctors. The whole issue you killer supporters avoid is the fact that these laws are in reaction to the extremes some of your doctors have performed... vicious, horrible, inhuman violations of any sense of propriety humane behavior. By insisting they not be controlled, you are saying you support their behavior, thus you belong in prison with them.
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Repeating my criticism back to me shows the shallowness of your position. Further, there is no evidence whatsoever, that pro-life people forget about babies after they're born. That is extreme rhetoric worthy only of a doper suffering delusions.
Lastly, the defenders of this Judge's decision seem to desire taking it beyond where he took it. Only one small section of the law was temporarily voided; it will go to the Supremes and they will confirm a State has the right to set standards for doctors. The whole issue you killer supporters avoid is the fact that these laws are in reaction to the extremes some of your doctors have performed... vicious, horrible, inhuman violations of any sense of propriety humane behavior. By insisting they not be controlled, you are saying you support their behavior, thus you belong in prison with them.
Agree respective to your point that these new laws are on the books now due largely to the Gosnell matter.
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Dan wrote:
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Although Coldwater's taking the thing in a different direction, I do believe that the appeals that TX will make on this will be to the point of states being allowed to regulate commerce and/or medical practice in the state.
RvW did make abortion legal, but I'm not sure how someone will make the case that the Constitution prohibits regulation of it by the states. Many things that are legal are still regulated.
Should be interesting.
Yes, I've covered wide ground, yet I'm pleased you picked up on the most relevant aspect of my argument. The overreactions of the Tennessee fellow concerning Texas should come as quite a surprise to all his fellow dope-heads in Austin.

Always a pleasure, but it's Cordwainer.
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Agree respective to your point that these new laws are on the books now due largely to the Gosnell matter.
Bingo! There was one down in Texas if I remember correctly, too. Or, it could have been Missouri, or even Tennessee. Who knows? With the advent of killing 57 Million human beings for convenience and lust, the proliferation of the Gosnell type monster in the various States has been out of control for some time.

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