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There are 61112 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47712 Jun 11, 2014
Scientists say that doubling pre-industrial carbon dioxide levels will likely cause global average surface temperature to rise between 1.5° and 4.5° Celsius (2.7° to 8.1° Fahrenheit) compared to pre-industrial temperatures.(Current concentrations are about 1.4 times pre-industrial levels.) The full process could take hundreds of years—perhaps more than a thousand—to play out. Climate scientists call the full temperature rise from doubled carbon dioxide concentrations the equilibrium climate sensitivity.

To understand how sensitive the climate is to carbon dioxide on time frames of a century or less, scientists also study the transient climate sensitivity. They imagine that carbon dioxide will continue to increase at roughly the rate it has been, and then ask how much warming would be realized around the time when the concentration has doubled the preindustrial value. On this shorter time scale, it’s likely the planet will warm between 1° and 2.5°C (2°-4.5°F).

The difference between transient and equilibrium sensitivity comes from the fact that some parts of the Earth system—mountain glaciers, sea ice, precipitation—react within years or a few decades to a warming or cooling nudge. Others—including ice sheets, permafrost, and especially the deep ocean—respond sluggishly, sometimes taking centuries to overcome the inertia of their previous state.[climate.gov]
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47713 Jun 11, 2014
Recent estimates of the increase in global average temperature since the end of the last ice age are 4 to 5 °C (7 to 9 °F). That change occurred over a period of about 7,000 years, starting 18,000 years ago. CO2 has risen by 40% in just the past 200 years, contributing to human alteration of the planet’s energy budget that has so far warmed Earth by about 0.8 °C (1.4 °F). If the rise in CO2 continues unchecked, warming of the same magnitude as the increase out of the ice age can be expected by the end of this century or soon after. This speed of warming is more than ten times that at the end of an ice age, the fastest known natural sustained change on a global scale.

Read more: http://www.oakridger.com/article/20140609/BLO...

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#47714 Jun 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
When was the world covered with Ice and snow?
When did it all melt?
Your third statement is about as intelligent as the first two.
So in other words you don't know what caused the ice age to end or you don't want to answer.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#47715 Jun 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
When was the world covered with Ice and snow?
When did it all melt?
Your third statement is about as intelligent as the first two.
Please explain (about as intelligent as the fire two) be specific.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#47716 Jun 11, 2014
Lord Hater wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain (about as intelligent as the fire two) be specific.
Perhaps this will help you understand the causes of the freeze and thawing of the Earth. As you will see, it is tied to many factors, one of which is CO2! Since man is increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, it is not a giant step to understand that he may indeed be changing the climate.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/09.1...
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47717 Jun 11, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends whether they accurately report the peer reviewed science or misrepresent it.
Depends whether you can defend the arguments made in the blog.
"Depends"?

Ahh... gotta love warmists and their decisive language. Unless, of course, you disagree, then they're absolute.

Run along... snipe troll.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47718 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Did it occur to you that sincere experts are expressing their concerns based on their knowledge to the public?
Did it occur to you that they are being listened to with gratitude and actions are taken in response so that "the sky won't fall?"
Did it occur to you that some countries like Italy expect their scientists to warn them of even natural disasters? Come on, this is a man-made disaster in progress!
Did it occur to you yet that every post you make puff out more CO2 into the atmosphere, which you claim is already at "crisis" levels?

Did it occur to you that this makes you a hypocrite and a lousy representative (and claimed adherent) to the "science" you promote?

Did it occur to you that I'm not ever going to let you forget you're a hypocrite?

LOL
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47719 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>.WOW.. Let's get this right!
You have studied/understood ALLEGEDLY thousands of climate science papers and your opposition "crowd" and their claims. Thus you have found what???
BWAHAHAHAHA you are hilarious.
Let's get this straight...

You claim to believe that CO2 levels are already at "crisis" levels and/or at a "tipping point", but still puff out more and more CO2 with every post in feeble attempts to prove what you believe?

Hypocrite.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47720 Jun 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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You are a real hoot! Betcha didn't even pass middle school general science.
Wow... now you're taking posting tips from litesong.

You can't write, read, reason, and now you steal stupid arguments.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47721 Jun 11, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
They never will ... but will continue to claim their theories as proven science.
Problem is... they are all a bunch of hypocrites. I've noted it repeatedly, and they offer no defense for it.

Same for the politicians, scientists, spokesmen and celebrities that all SAY they BELIEVE in the SCIENCE, but continue on with their lives without any consequences to the the CO2 THEY produce.

Keep reading... you won't see any warmist ever hold another accountable -- or themselves.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47722 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>One would believe that if the catastrophic damage they claim co2 is causing were real....they'd be a little less hypocritical in their use fossil fuels. They love to waste it, however, by spewing pseudoscience and idiocy every day.
Absolutely agree.

Notice none here have shut their yaps on this forum despite their claims of CO2 at "crisis" levels -- even when it's been shown that each and every post puffs out a bit more CO2 into the atmosphere.

Tipping point anyone?

Hypocrites.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47723 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>your myopic understanding of science why you haven't broken the bank, huh, son?
if you were really so sure.....why haven't you put your money where your mouth is, hmmm?
also....why are you wasting co2 needlessly while spreading your propaganda instead of conserving your own emissions?
co2 heat amplification diminishes in pretty short order. so does the effect of absurd warmist claims.
peace!!
".why are you wasting co2 needlessly while spreading your propaganda instead of conserving your own emissions?"

Great question... wish I had thought of it... ;-)

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#47724 Jun 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps this will help you understand the causes of the freeze and thawing of the Earth. As you will see, it is tied to many factors, one of which is CO2! Since man is increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, it is not a giant step to understand that he may indeed be changing the climate.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/09.1...
All speculation.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47725 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. Your claims are not based on peer-reviewd science.
What a joke! A short order of ribs?
BWAHAHAHA
The joke is that you claim to represent that peer reviewed science but keep spewing more and more CO2 into the atmosphere.

Hypocrite.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#47726 Jun 11, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely agree.
Notice none here have shut their yaps on this forum despite their claims of CO2 at "crisis" levels -- even when it's been shown that each and every post puffs out a bit more CO2 into the atmosphere.
Tipping point anyone?
Hypocrites.
Another issue is CO2 used in our every day life.Soda pop ,welding, entertainment. If its such a bad gas how come its not regulated like other gases.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47727 Jun 11, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's get this straight...
You claim to believe that CO2 levels are already at "crisis" levels and/or at a "tipping point", but still puff out more and more CO2 with every post in feeble attempts to prove what you believe?
Hypocrite.
LIAR. Everything you posted here is a full lie, LOL.

Read my posts. I never say "believe" for a fact.

Why don't you start learning about the man-made global warming?

climate.gov
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47728 Jun 11, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
The joke is that you claim to represent that peer reviewed science but keep spewing more and more CO2 into the atmosphere.
Hypocrite.
Claim to represent? NUTS!

Why are you here? Just to abuse pure strangers, LOL?

Seek medical attention elsewhere.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47729 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>LIAR. Everything you posted here is a full lie, LOL.
Read my posts. I never say "believe" for a fact.
Why don't you start learning about the man-made global warming?
climate.gov
Ahh... look at widdle spacedballs try to defend his hypocrisy.

A miserable failure... as you again poof out more CO2 that's already at "crisis" levels.

You best option is to shut up.

But you won't... or rather can't.

LOL
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47730 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Claim to represent? NUTS!
Why are you here? Just to abuse pure strangers, LOL?
Seek medical attention elsewhere.
The real question is why are you here?

In you mind the science is settled. As such you know that every post puffs out more CO2 that's already at crisis levels.

Can you live with yourself knowing your next puff might put CO2 past it's tipping point?

Apparently so.

Hypocrite.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#47731 Jun 11, 2014
Shouldn't their be a carbon tax on every soda and beer sold. And fire extinguishers. Welding co2. Dry ice.
All you climate disruptors better only drink non co2 beverages.

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