Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 62354 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#43797 Feb 22, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>FYI, it's settled
Not according to... you!

LOL
SpaceBlues

Hockley, TX

#43798 Feb 22, 2014
Listen.. Predicted Climate Change In 1895

Was the first to link industrialization with negative environmental effects

In 1895, Arrhenius presented a paper to the Stockholm Physical Society titled, "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground." This article described an energy budget model that considered the radiative effects of carbon dioxide (carbonic acid) and water vapor on the surface temperature of the Earth, and variations in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations.

http://politix.topix.com/story/10477-this-sci...

Hence, even if all the research were halted at this point, the AGW/Climate Change would not cease because of the man-made greenhouse gases.in our atmosphere .
SpaceBlues

Hockley, TX

#43799 Feb 22, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>In what case?!
you respond to my response to another poster completely off topic!!
what a curious creature you are.
chew on this, son. not all scientists fall lock step into the hysteria of the gloom and doomers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/...
Pssst you don't follow communication here. You are off the wall, on rockers.. bwahahahaha.

Any way, Dr Curry should sue the Telegraph for their false quote.. it seems she never said:“uncertainty is getting bigger” within the academic community.
litesong

Everett, WA

#43800 Feb 22, 2014
litesong wrote:
After re-pubic-lick-uns corralled racists to vote against candidate & Pres. Obama, re-pubic-lick-uns surmised that Pres. Obama won both times, because the re-pubic-lick-un racists forgot to vote twice. Every good re-pubic-lick-un knows that. The decreasing percentage re-pubic-lick-uns are keeping their power now, only by really creative gerrymandering.
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"ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" gushed:
are you around 8 years old....or just retarded?
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litesong wrote:
"ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" defends racists........ but not well.

We know "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" can only say something non-scientific, because "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" never had science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its poorly(or non-) earned hi skule DEE-ploomaa. We also know that "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" is disrespectful of those less fortunate them itself.

I did say that "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" could also be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig. But "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" just proved it is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#43801 Feb 22, 2014
Global temperatures have been rising at an alarming rate. In fact, nine of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2000.
We’re likely getting fewer cold days and more warm ones globally.

Ski areas are feeling it:

In the last 70 years, ski areas in the Swiss Alps have seen a 15—25 percent decrease in winter snow.
The average snowpack in Washington State’s Cascade Mountains has declined about 25 percent over the last 60 years.
The spring melt season now starts more than two weeks earlier in Colorado than it did in the late 1970s.
Along with shorter seasons, skiers in Victoria, Australia have seen the maximum snow depth decline at resorts from 1954 to 2011.


Deniers here are arguing against FACTS. You are losing, of course.

A recent psychological study found that trolls, like Mothra, like ratdownthemuddle,have serious personality defects. They are only here to insult and ridicule, and have no rational arguments.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#43803 Feb 23, 2014
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/21/us-...

Somebody didn't pay the bill.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#43804 Feb 23, 2014
For the Coal Kings of this world:
Mind you some of this ends up on the West Coast of the USA, the old saying about what goes around comes around. Exporting pollution only helped drive climate change faster, this doesn't seem to sink in on those right wing zealots.

Air pollution in China, the world's biggest carbon emitter, has reached intolerable levels and the country should aggressively cut its reliance on coal, according to the National Center for Climate Change Strategy and International Cooperation.
“China's pollution is at an unbearable stage,” Li Junfeng, director general of the state body that advises the government on climate-change issues, said at a conference in Beijing.“It's like a smoker who needs to quit smoking at once otherwise he will risk getting lung cancer.”
China, which currently uses coal for about 65 per cent of its energy, should reduce that ratio by two percentage points per year, according to Li. The comments come as Beijing's air pollution reached eight times levels the World Health Organisation says raise health risks, as smog persisted for a fourth day on Sunday.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/worsening-p...
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#43805 Feb 23, 2014
(Reuters)- Small volcanic eruptions help explain a hiatus in global warming this century by dimming sunlight and offsetting a rise in emissions of heat-trapping gases to record highs, a study showed on Sunday.

Eruptions of at least 17 volcanoes since 2000, including Nabro in Eritrea, Kasatochi in Alaska and Merapi in Indonesia, ejected sulfur whose sun-blocking effect had been largely ignored until now by climate scientists, it said.

The pace of rising world surface temperatures has slowed since an exceptionally warm 1998, heartening those who doubt that an urgent, trillion-dollar shift to renewable energies from fossil fuels is needed to counter global warming.

Explaining the hiatus could bolster support for a U.N. climate deal, due to be agreed by almost 200 governments at a summit in Paris in late 2015 to avert ever more floods, droughts, heatwaves and rising sea levels.

"This is a complex detective story," said Benjamin Santer of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, lead author of the study in the journal Nature Geoscience that gives the most detailed account yet of the cooling impact of volcanoes.
The Truth

Fullerton, CA

#43806 Feb 23, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
Global temperatures have been rising at an alarming rate. In fact, nine of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2000.
We’re likely getting fewer cold days and more warm ones globally.
Ski areas are feeling it:
In the last 70 years, ski areas in the Swiss Alps have seen a 15—25 percent decrease in winter snow.
The average snowpack in Washington State’s Cascade Mountains has declined about 25 percent over the last 60 years.
The spring melt season now starts more than two weeks earlier in Colorado than it did in the late 1970s.
Along with shorter seasons, skiers in Victoria, Australia have seen the maximum snow depth decline at resorts from 1954 to 2011.
Deniers here are arguing against FACTS. You are losing, of course.
A recent psychological study found that trolls, like Mothra, like ratdownthemuddle,have serious personality defects. They are only here to insult and ridicule, and have no rational arguments.
And the single most important thing you are doing to combat climate change is ....

Hmmmmm?

(besides spreading the word on the internet).

Are you walking to Al Gore speeches? Avoiding driving to sports games? Sold your car perhaps?
The Truth

Fullerton, CA

#43807 Feb 23, 2014
Drought has happened before:
==========
Then there is California's annual rain and snowfall, which go up and down like a yo-yo.

"From a climate perspective, we've been here before," Martin Hoerling, a federal research meteorologist, said last week at a drought forum in Sacramento. "We shouldn't be surprised."

The state dried out like a prune in 1976-77 and before that in 1924, the most parched periods in the modern record. And ancient tree-ring records show that during the last millennium, conditions have at times been even worse.

Take the year 1580, which left the narrowest growth ring — or none at all — in the California trees that University of Arizona scientist David Meko used to reconstruct a 1,000-year history of stream flow in the Sacramento River Basin, the source of much of the state's water supply.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#43812 Feb 23, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>and we live rent free inside your 'cave', man!!!
provide a link or be quiet and go eat some more chitterlings.
Best to ignore the zealots. Indifference is their kryptonite.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43813 Feb 23, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
John Christy, the sceptics current champion, says that the settled science is that humans have raised the level of CO2 in the atmosphere, and that causes warming.
Can we take it you agree with him on that?
No comment?

I guess it's pick and miss in denial land.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43814 Feb 23, 2014
The Truth wrote:
Drought has happened before:
==========
Then there is California's annual rain and snowfall, which go up and down like a yo-yo.
"From a climate perspective, we've been here before," Martin Hoerling, a federal research meteorologist, said last week at a drought forum in Sacramento. "We shouldn't be surprised."
The state dried out like a prune in 1976-77 and before that in 1924, the most parched periods in the modern record. And ancient tree-ring records show that during the last millennium, conditions have at times been even worse.
Take the year 1580, which left the narrowest growth ring — or none at all — in the California trees that University of Arizona scientist David Meko used to reconstruct a 1,000-year history of stream flow in the Sacramento River Basin, the source of much of the state's water supply.
Deniers are liars:

A warming climate is shrinking the Sierra Nevada snowpack that acts as a natural reservoir. And although it is unclear exactly how climate change will affect precipitation levels in California, rising temperatures mean farm fields and suburban yards will dry out more quickly.

"I think that any prudent — fill in the blank — businessperson, governmental official, citizen, farmer would be thinking about how they can use less water" in the future, Hayes said.

Then there is California's annual rain and snowfall, which go up and down like a yo-yo.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me-drought-...

So miss out the information about the snowpack and temperatures, and there is nothing to worry about?

Not according to the very article you quote from:

"California is running out of options to deal with the fact that it has basically been relying on more water than it has long-term access to," warned David Hayes, a former U.S. Interior Department official who was the Obama administration's point man on Western water issues during the president's first term.

"It's like reality is closing in on California," Hayes said.

Melting snowpack and increased temperatures due to global warming are going to make things worse.
Jefferson

Fullerton, CA

#43815 Feb 23, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Deniers are liars:
A warming climate is shrinking the Sierra Nevada snowpack that acts as a natural reservoir. And although it is unclear exactly how climate change will affect precipitation levels in California, rising temperatures mean farm fields and suburban yards will dry out more quickly.
"I think that any prudent — fill in the blank — businessperson, governmental official, citizen, farmer would be thinking about how they can use less water" in the future, Hayes said.
Then there is California's annual rain and snowfall, which go up and down like a yo-yo.
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me-drought-...
So miss out the information about the snowpack and temperatures, and there is nothing to worry about?
Not according to the very article you quote from:
"California is running out of options to deal with the fact that it has basically been relying on more water than it has long-term access to," warned David Hayes, a former U.S. Interior Department official who was the Obama administration's point man on Western water issues during the president's first term.
"It's like reality is closing in on California," Hayes said.
Melting snowpack and increased temperatures due to global warming are going to make things worse.
It's happened before. It'll happen again. Relax.
litesong

Everett, WA

#43816 Feb 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
....are you.....
"ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" defends racists........ but not well.
We know "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" can only say something non-scientific, because "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" never had science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its poorly(or non-) earned hi skule DEE-ploomaa. We also know that "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" is disrespectful of those less fortunate them itself.
I did say that "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" could also be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig. But "ratdownthemiddle", "middleofthedownwronggull y" just proved it is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43817 Feb 24, 2014
Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>
It's happened before. It'll happen again. Relax.
The glib complacency of an old fool is hardly reassuring.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#43818 Feb 24, 2014
The real story.
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurr...

Global warming has not reversed.
SpaceBlues

United States

#43819 Feb 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>sure i do.....when it's coherent. sorry, you just don't qualify in that department, son.
hahaha that's your excuse for the birds...

What happened to the rest of the post that you replied to? The answer is: you did not comprehend. LOL. My words were responding to your post.

You had not read your own link.. or did not comprehend your own link.. The latter, of course, bwahahahaha
SpaceBlues

United States

#43820 Feb 24, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
The real story.
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurr...
Global warming has not reversed.
Quick review of skeptics predictions versus the IPCC and the data:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Pred...
SpaceBlues

United States

#43823 Feb 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>still making claims you can never hope to back up, son?
Not so, LOL but with one catch:

you [that means YOU] have to comprehend topix posts.

BWAHAHAHA

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