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cricket

Winter Park, FL

#33096 Dec 14, 2012
roflmao

Global Warming Afforded Same Legal Status as Religion in UK

http://www.dailytech.com/Global+Warming+Affor...

A religious, fervent, fanatical & devoted belief.

roflmao.
PHD

Overton, TX

#33097 Dec 14, 2012
How So?

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#33098 Dec 14, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it's "all about money.' Where did you come by the bizarre idea that things were, or should be, otherwise?
Putting aside non-profits and those with some explicitly-stated humanitarian or charitable corporate mission, the sole purpose of a business is to maximize its shareholders' wealth, and its sole duty is to obey all applicable laws and regs. Period.
The notion that businesses have any other responsibility to pursue "American" interests or environmental or humanitarian missions is frankly naive nonsense. If these things help them maximize shareholder wealth, they can and generally will (if well-managed) do them. If not, not they shouldn't - and generally don't. One may as well expect a pig to sing.
That is exactly why the market cannot solve all our problems.
PHD

Overton, TX

#33099 Dec 14, 2012
It's only a problem if you allow to be.
cricket

Winter Park, FL

#33100 Dec 14, 2012
Fervent belief (faith) in what has already been scientifically proven to be wrong.

Do you also have the fervent belief that the hollow earth theory is real?

Why? Proof?

10 Most Famous Scientific Theories (That Turned out to be Wrong)

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-sci...

here's some more:
http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2010/11/the-top-...

People used to believe that disease was transmitted by smell.

mmcc/cc will eventually join the list as one of the stupidest theories ever, that didn't pass even the most basic scientific smell test.
PHD

Overton, TX

#33101 Dec 14, 2012
Science finds errors and make corrections to their errors to find that their corrections were in error.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#33102 Dec 14, 2012
cricket wrote:
Fervent belief (faith) in what has already been scientifically proven to be wrong.
Do you also have the fervent belief that the hollow earth theory is real?
Why? Proof?
10 Most Famous Scientific Theories (That Turned out to be Wrong)
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-sci...
here's some more:
http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2010/11/the-top-...
People used to believe that disease was transmitted by smell.
mmcc/cc will eventually join the list as one of the stupidest theories ever, that didn't pass even the most basic scientific smell test.
Are you trying to say that science is more often wrong than right? Are you anti science?
PHD

Overton, TX

#33103 Dec 14, 2012
Science finds errors and make corrections to their errors to find that their corrections were in error.
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#33104 Dec 14, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Ah the privilege of living in a free America. You can make that choice unless you would like me to make it for you. Sorry the simple English language confuses you. And your point if indeed you had one would be? Well not only fractured but fragmented as well. If this were an spelling grammer thread than maybe an extra effort would be appropriate.
Okaayyy. I take it, then, that you had no point to make in your original post to me.

Thanks for making that clear.

Selah.
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#33105 Dec 14, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
That is exactly why the market cannot solve all our problems.
Obviously.

Free markets aren't magic or all-powerful; they do one thing and really one thing only, but they do it better than any other means yet found - allocate economic goods and services optimally, maximizing aggregate economic output and the collective wealth of all participants in the economy.

If the solution to a problem involves fixing suboptimal or inefficient allocation of scarce economic goods and services, the the free market is the the first and best place to look to deliver a solution. If the markets are not working properly because of an identifiable market failure, like Government or somebody else (e.g. a monopoly or cartel) is meddling and tinkering and f**king up prices, you fix the failure if you can so the markets can get back to operating freely and efficiently.

But of course - if a societal problem does not have its root cause in some identifiable and fix-able market failure, one must look elsewhere for a solution.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33106 Dec 14, 2012
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought so. Tina so loves her SUV subsidy that she's contradicting her own hyperventilating over the national debt and subsidies to build renewable energy infrastructure. It's not welfare if it lines her own pockets, right?
As for all Tina's howls for the absolutely essential Christian rightness of SUVs for construction and farming, I wonder if she's aware that pickups are better for those tasks? So why do pickups get fewer subsidies? Maybe because suburban Republicans prefer SUVs, and they hold more political sway?
More like I would love to dump every subsidy and let the chips fall where they may. Of course the SUV would leave the EV behind at that point.

As for howling, I see you doing more howling because those little EV and renewable energy are failing even with plenty of subsidies trying to prop them up.

And, by the way, I am a Libertarian not a Republican. Which means I would love to see the government trimmed down to a more manageable size, see an end to all subsidies and if I had my way there would be entire government agencies trimmed out of existance.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33107 Dec 14, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand that money is all that you do understand. I suppose that you do not wish for America to innovate and develop, that this is best left to other countries such as China. That is a recipe for becoming a second rate country.
Who says he isn't interested in innovate and develop new things. The fact is that wind isn't new and neither is solar. The fact is that both have been tried in the past and suffered one major drawback, both are dependant on the weather.

The funny thing is that you and people like you are so intent on an agenda that you are even less interested in development. The EV could be a practical source if some innovations were developed but rather than do that you are more interested in shoving them onto the streets. Until they can come up with a practical energy storage solution. One that can be recharged from near zero to one hindred in minutes, provide similar ranges to a gasoline powered engine on one charge and can handle the real world which means someone who is driving with the windshield wipers, headlights, heater, and radio all going at the same time and provide more than a hour of drive time. That isn't drive time in sunny and seventy at the test track but stop and go driving then you have developed a practical EV.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#33108 Dec 14, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously.
Free markets aren't magic or all-powerful; they do one thing and really one thing only, but they do it better than any other means yet found - allocate economic goods and services optimally, maximizing aggregate economic output and the collective wealth of all participants in the economy.
...
So back to the original idea. It is not all about money, is it?
PHD

Overton, TX

#33109 Dec 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Okaayyy. I take it, then, that you had no point to make in your original post to me.
Thanks for making that clear.
Selah.
Goes hand in hand with your point. None, and thanks for making that clear to all.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#33111 Dec 15, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Goes hand in hand with your point. None, and thanks for making that clear to all.
Troll. Ignored.
PHD

Overton, TX

#33113 Dec 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Troll. Ignored.
But you replied. Now who is the TROLL why it's the "Teddy R".
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#33114 Dec 15, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>But you replied. Now who is the TROLL why it's the "Teddy R".
Troll ignored.
Its real

Tampa, FL

#33115 Dec 15, 2012
And it's to late. We're all doomed.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33116 Dec 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Troll ignored.
Pretty clever response.

I did not ignore your reply to me re the Chinese characters. The trouble is that there were more points to comment on, to disagree with, etc. than I had time for.

Still your view is a mixed position; however, you don't like the Chinese. I think until the western interference of late in history, the Chinese were onto themselves and of mostly non-invading nature. But not anymore. You know whom to thank for that.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33117 Dec 15, 2012
Its real wrote:
And it's to late. We're all doomed.
Come on. Not even 8pm yet.

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