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Couples split by border hope reform brings relief

There are 556 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Aug 27, 2013, titled Couples split by border hope reform brings relief. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

As Edgar Falcon and Maricruz Valtierra exchanged vows, they attracted the attention of hundreds of morning commuters Tuesday at the Santa Fe border bridge in El Paso, craning their necks to see the couple standing on the dividing line between the U.S. and Mexico.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#338 Oct 7, 2013
Ojosgrande wrote:
For the record.. I'm not racist.. I'm 8th blooded Cherokee Indian and God only knows what else.. but I live where my ancestors where forced to walk a path they died on..'Trail of Tears'.. I know what I know of history... and the fact is.... most people aren't of 'pure blood'.. and the Cherokee Indians were the first tribe.. from which the Mayans and Aztec also derived from.. along with others here in North America.. when it comes down to it.. We aren't against a race.. I'm not against a race per'se.. I'm against the Government imposing it's power hungry hand down the mouths of people who refuse to eat what they have to serve.. I want the borders open..
Just having a human heart.. and being touched by the same infirmities having a family alone.. hearing stories of fearfulness of the government and of possible death looking for freedom.. These people deserve a chance at what America calls freedom..
I have a feeling we're on the brink of civil war ourselves.. but I HOPE the whole human race that is here in America realizes that we aren't fighting a race.. we're fighting a controlling government.
Your un-American of that we can be sure of.

If you are here illegally then you should be deported and forfeit any right to even seek citizenship in this country since you have already proven yourself to be an individual who believes that they are above the law. We already have enough lawbreakers in this country; we don’t need the trash from other countries.

Taxes “are” the problem and giving these lawless losers a SS card does nothing to address the social benefits that they take (illegally through the use of fraudulent SS cards and ids) as well as the use of anchor babies to secure food stamps.

And for the record … you are racist …. Just by the use of the term white men, shows your racial bias.
Ojosgrande

Murfreesboro, TN

#339 Oct 7, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Your un-American of that we can be sure of.
If you are here illegally then you should be deported and forfeit any right to even seek citizenship in this country since you have already proven yourself to be an individual who believes that they are above the law. We already have enough lawbreakers in this country; we don’t need the trash from other countries.
Taxes “are” the problem and giving these lawless losers a SS card does nothing to address the social benefits that they take (illegally through the use of fraudulent SS cards and ids) as well as the use of anchor babies to secure food stamps.
And for the record … you are racist …. Just by the use of the term white men, shows your racial bias.
Taxes wouldn't be a problem if we'd allow people who have families here with children that are American citizens to GET A DAMN S.S. CARD and pay taxes also.. it's called a SIMPLE SOLUTION!! Oops.. I am a CITIZEN.. if you failed to read the whole text.. No.. I dislike white men because I was married to one for 4 years.. who beat the hell out of me.. and every white man I've ever met is so full of pride.. for no damn reason... Mexican men are smart.. and understanding.. mentally stimulating to an educated woman.. and respectful to a lady.. but JUST BECAUSE he beat the hell out of me.. I'm sure doesn't mean ALL white men do.. We all have preferences.. I prefer Mexican men.. You may like Chocolate chip cookies.. I prefer Filet mignon.. ;)
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#341 Oct 7, 2013
Ojosgrande wrote:
<quoted text>
Taxes wouldn't be a problem if we'd allow people who have families here with children that are American citizens to GET A DAMN S.S. CARD and pay taxes also.. it's called a SIMPLE SOLUTION!! Oops.. I am a CITIZEN.. if you failed to read the whole text.. No.. I dislike white men because I was married to one for 4 years.. who beat the hell out of me.. and every white man I've ever met is so full of pride.. for no damn reason... Mexican men are smart.. and understanding.. mentally stimulating to an educated woman.. and respectful to a lady.. but JUST BECAUSE he beat the hell out of me.. I'm sure doesn't mean ALL white men do.. We all have preferences.. I prefer Mexican men.. You may like Chocolate chip cookies.. I prefer Filet mignon.. ;)
Taxes will continue to be a problem regardless of whether the illegals receive a SS card or not. Most work menial jobs which preclude them from paying any appreciable Federal Income Tax which is what funds the programs that many of them currently take advantage of and many more would if they received SS cards.

Sounds like you prefer ground beef (tacos) and couldn’t afford filet if you life depended on it. But continue your self delusions if they make your life more palatable.

I can only assume that you are as much a loser as the bulk of the illegal ilk that crosses our borders. It is no wonder that you gravitate towards them.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#342 Oct 7, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Taxes will continue to be a problem regardless of whether the illegals receive a SS card or not. Most work menial jobs which preclude them from paying any appreciable Federal Income Tax which is what funds the programs that many of them currently take advantage of and many more would if they received SS cards.
Sounds like you prefer ground beef (tacos) and couldn’t afford filet if you life depended on it. But continue your self delusions if they make your life more palatable.
I can only assume that you are as much a loser as the bulk of the illegal ilk that crosses our borders. It is no wonder that you gravitate towards them.
And to think the Indians were called savages..
Ask A Mojado

Palm Desert, CA

#343 Oct 7, 2013
Even though Eduardo and Maricruz are separated by chain link fence, they still have raw public sex like two perros

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#344 Oct 8, 2013
Ojosgrande wrote:
I'm full of anguish towards Americans more than anything..democrat and republican.. American was founded on immigration... The NATIVE AMERICANS had their land stolen from them.. their women and children raped and beaten.. then given a little bit of land to live on after all of this is done.. along with enough supplies to live well enough to be creative and build a little shack..
If ANY American wants to say something about immigration laws.. let it first be heard from the mouth of a Cherokee Indian..or ANY native American tribe!
Did you whine about this too??

Mexico & The Scalp Industry

Between 1835 and the 1880s, the Mexican authorities paid private armies to hunt Native Americans, paying per kill and using scalps as receipts. The practice began when the Mexican government could no longer provide adequate protection to its citizens from the marauding Apaches and Comanches.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/hns/scalpin...

Scratch that!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#345 Oct 8, 2013
zanoni wrote:
<quoted text>

That second sentence should read "...I still DON'T support desecrating the US flag."

My typo.
When you find yourself in a hole,stop digging!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#346 Oct 8, 2013
Ojosgrande wrote:
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Mexican men are smart.. and understanding.. mentally stimulating to an educated woman.. and respectful to a lady.. but JUST BECAUSE he beat the hell out of me.. I'm sure doesn't mean ALL white men do.. We all have preferences.. I prefer Mexican men.. You may like Chocolate chip cookies.. I prefer Filet mignon.. ;)
Previously deported illegal alien charged in fatal rape of infant

Albuquerque, NM - On Thursday, Bernalillo County Sheriff's Deputies arrested and charged Juan Galindo, 37, with aggravated rape and child abuse resulting in death, after family members discovered the 1-month-old victim bloody and unresponsive.

Galindo was babysitting the infant while her mother reportedly went to a nearby casino.

Detectives believe the baby was actually Galindo's daughter, though another man has come forward claiming he is in fact the father. A DNA test is being conducted to confirm paternity.

When deputies arrived at the home around 4:00 a.m., the girl was already dead.

According to charging documents, the baby was found badly beaten with two black eyes, blood filling her onesie pajamas. She had a bite mark on her cheek, a lacerated liver as well as anal and vaginal tearing.

Read rest of story below:

http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in...

Illegal Aliens Gang Rape Girl For 2 Days

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Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#347 Oct 8, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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Did you whine about this too??
Mexico & The Scalp Industry
Between 1835 and the 1880s, the Mexican authorities paid private armies to hunt Native Americans, paying per kill and using scalps as receipts. The practice began when the Mexican government could no longer provide adequate protection to its citizens from the marauding Apaches and Comanches.
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/hns/scalpin...
Scratch that!
The difference is.. The Indians 'Mexicans' in Mexico THAT do not derive from Spain.. derive from Cherokees.. SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN.. I'm sure it was... Trust me I've read all about the Comanche Indians.. and they were not a bad group of people..I wonder who the government was that was funding the Mexican government with the means to pay per scalp? They had to protect their own too.. the thing is.. we're HUMANS.. HUMANITY binds us all and we AREN'T savages.. We have the ability to reason and thing.. and you're powerless to control the government and if you could have that control the people or the government would kill you to ensure that you wouldn't.. look at J.F.K. NOT comparing you to a man that great in ANY way..

The point is.. accept what you can NOT change.. I have NO PROBLEM with a nation that was founded on ahem cough*dishonesty*cough..Immigr ation to continue to be that same nation.. Like I said.. Immigrants are generally more law abiding than American citizens.. The religious traditions of mostly all Mexican men and women... I admire.. They are VERY respectful people.. very patience.. caring and compassionate.. they're humble.. unlike the majority of Americans!

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#348 Oct 8, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Previously deported illegal alien charged in fatal rape of infant
Albuquerque, NM - On Thursday, Bernalillo County Sheriff's Deputies arrested and charged Juan Galindo, 37, with aggravated rape and child abuse resulting in death, after family members discovered the 1-month-old victim bloody and unresponsive.
Galindo was babysitting the infant while her mother reportedly went to a nearby casino.
Detectives believe the baby was actually Galindo's daughter, though another man has come forward claiming he is in fact the father. A DNA test is being conducted to confirm paternity.
When deputies arrived at the home around 4:00 a.m., the girl was already dead.
According to charging documents, the baby was found badly beaten with two black eyes, blood filling her onesie pajamas. She had a bite mark on her cheek, a lacerated liver as well as anal and vaginal tearing.
Read rest of story below:
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in...
Illegal Aliens Gang Rape Girl For 2 Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =VoSmm_COezsXX&feature=rel ated
Ok that ONE man deserves to die the cruelest death imaginable..and don't think for one second when he gets back to Mexico he will escape judgement of the Mexican people.. because he won't..

What about the black woman years ago who molested a child she was baby sitting? What about the statistics that show WHITE MEN are generally pedophiles.. Come on.. BUT our judicial system is so merciful... I have three daughters.. If it were up to me anyone who does anything like that to a baby.. or a child.. or even rapes a grown woman.. I'd want to see their balls cut off, shoved down their throat.. and allow them to witness their compensation....for their actions..

My hatred for ALL pedophiles does not blind me to believe that A WHOLE GROUP of people should pay the price for the choices of ONE MAN..and yours shouldn't either..but it does.. because your hatred isn't again the DECISIONS of a person.. your hatred is against.. THE race of another person.. which makes you a racist!

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#350 Oct 8, 2013
OneRepublic wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a falsehood that Americans are lazy. And social security cards aren't a reward for lawbreakers.
It's not a falsehood that the younger generation is lazy. With some exceptions they won't take outside work and many just live at home playing with thier video games.

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#351 Oct 8, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Taxes will continue to be a problem regardless of whether the illegals receive a SS card or not. Most work menial jobs which preclude them from paying any appreciable Federal Income Tax which is what funds the programs that many of them currently take advantage of and many more would if they received SS cards.
Sounds like you prefer ground beef (tacos) and couldn’t afford filet if you life depended on it. But continue your self delusions if they make your life more palatable.
I can only assume that you are as much a loser as the bulk of the illegal ilk that crosses our borders. It is no wonder that you gravitate towards them.
Did calling the other poster a loser make you feel superior? Maybe telling them that they must like tacos because they prefer Mexican men gave you that superior feelings that you have strived towards.
But let me tell you that only those that are without any self esteeme are the ones that have to put others down in order to build themselves up.
Keep in mind that even those menial job workers would be paying billions into taxes as it doesn't take a lot of money from each person when you have a lot of people paying into it.

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#354 Oct 8, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
<quoted text> nice and they want to know why we dont want them.they would love to take this country over.they should use all this energy to fix their country.very sad.still stalled,(amnesty)for a good reason.envy is what kills these people.putting their flag above ours nice touch.not going to happen.oh and english is what we speak in america.learn it.
I already know why you don't want them here and it has nothing to do with them taking over this Country. If they were all blond haired and blue eyed we would hear a different tune from you.

“Peace”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#355 Oct 8, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Your un-American of that we can be sure of.
If you are here illegally then you should be deported and forfeit any right to even seek citizenship in this country since you have already proven yourself to be an individual who believes that they are above the law. We already have enough lawbreakers in this country; we don’t need the trash from other countries.
Taxes “are” the problem and giving these lawless losers a SS card does nothing to address the social benefits that they take (illegally through the use of fraudulent SS cards and ids) as well as the use of anchor babies to secure food stamps.
And for the record … you are racist …. Just by the use of the term white men, shows your racial bias.
The trash from other countries???? So you feel that all other countries have nothing except trash people in them? That is what you said.
Just keep on watching Fox TV and reading all the other radical conservative propaganda as you really don't want to know the truth you have already made up your mind.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#356 Oct 8, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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Let me review your stupidity.
1. It's not just illegals who work menial jobs, the majority of US citizens and residents work menial jobs!!!!
2. You mention the programs they are currently on. Name them! They already aren't eligible for most, if not all, public programs. So be specific and name the programs.
3. Sounds like you prefer ground beef tacos...Really? I already went over this regarding another poster. You're miserable and you look for people who are not as well off as yourself to criticize and put down to make yourself feel better. Go get psych help!!!
4. Now you resort to calling someone a loser because they don't agree with you. And you consider yourself "patriotic?" Don't you remember this old saying, "I many not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the end your right to say it!"
What happened patriotic one? You're not as patriotic as you think you are. You're just miserable and full of hate and believes that the illegals are the source of your misery. they are not the source of your misery, look in the mirror and you'll see the source of your misery!!!!
Let me review your stupidity.

1. Regardless of what positions actual citizens hold in the workforce, it has nothing to do with the illegal trash and the marginal contribution that they make to this country.

2. I would name them, but you would only reply that they are not eligible, discounting that these individuals have for decades scammed the system with fraudulent documentation. But yeah they are such honorable people.

3. No not miserable. Just sick and tired of the illegal population in this country destroying our cities, disregarding our laws, and thumbing their noses at the country.

4. Never stated that I was patriotic. But then this is just more La Raza talking points that they teach to attempt to divert the subject. The reality is that they are losers.

The rest I just have to laugh at, just as I have been laughing at you.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#357 Oct 8, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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Dumb-ass, you know damn well that there are many, many US citizens (specially whites) who are rapists of all types. Do you want me to post the statistics here?
I'm good at research and posting statistics you know.
Yeah but they are here legally. You fools just don't seem to get that fact. But then intellect was never the strong suit of the illegals.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#358 Oct 8, 2013
_White American_ wrote:
<quoted text>The trash from other countries???? So you feel that all other countries have nothing except trash people in them? That is what you said.
Just keep on watching Fox TV and reading all the other radical conservative propaganda as you really don't want to know the truth you have already made up your mind.
I don't think that other countries have nothing but trash people in them. It's just their trash is all that floods across our borders illegally. Those will intellect and promise, work within the law to get here.
Huh

Faribault, MN

#359 Oct 8, 2013
I say round up all illegals. Anyone found to have hired or rented an apartment to illegals should be arrested jailed and have all property and assets taken.

Problem is here people it is the rich super rich and ultra rich that want the illegals here...CHEAP LABOR.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#362 Oct 8, 2013
zanoni wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, so mean to say that you overlook some rapists just because they're here legally. Right?
OK, I see. Here we go, two scenarios:
Guy #1 is a legal citizen/resident, he rapes.
Guy #2 is an illegal immigrant, he rapes also.
Hm? Whom should we focus our attention on. Well, one is a legal resident/citizen, let's focus on the illegal one.
You are correct, since the illegal has already broken two laws as opposed to the legal citizen who only broke one. This would on the very surface indicate that the illegal is more prone to break the law and therefore a greater threat to society.
Huh

Faribault, MN

#365 Oct 8, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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Are you a business owner? Probably not. At least you're not very business savvy at all.
As a business owner, you should look for ways to cut your costs down. Why would you pay someone $20/hr when someone else can do the exact same job for $10/hr. Catch my drift?
You're not business savvy at all, not at all.
Have you ever heard the term "not worth your salt?" It means you're not worth your salary. By removing these so-called low-wage earners, you propose that employers higher citizens at higher wages. In other words, you're asking that citizens be paid more than what they're worth. Do you understand this?
I own rental properties....But not business owner per say no. Work as welder for my job.

WHY WOULD A BUSINESS OWNER HIRE SOMEONE WHO IS A CRIMINAL?????? ILLEGALS ARE CRIMINALS.......THAT IS WHY WE CALL THEM ILLEGALS....DUH...

You sound like a traitor to the USA....

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