Konigun Ninjutsu

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AOlb

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Jun 29, 2007
 
Anyone know anything about konigun ninjutsu? I am interested in martial arts training.
Graner

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Stay away.
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yes stay far far away from this group. dangerous.
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its a good martial art to get into
Cayce

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The konigun cult was begun in Grenada, MS in 1983 by a con man named bryce dallas. It's a poor mishmash of isshinryu karate and dallas' own fantasies. I was in his first school, but dropped it after two months when I found out he was a fraud. Stay well away from this cult.
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Stay away from these nuts.
Grim

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is anybody going to actually post any reasons for what they say? if not, then I'm going to make a claim that they are all really monkeys in disguise, and that they explode on impact.
back up your responses some, for or against.
Cayce

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Murfreesboro, huh? Puppet, perhaps?
If you need to know my opinion, it's no secret. Google konigun, konigun fraud, konigun cult, or konigun ninjer to see mine, and others, opinions on this cult.
Larry

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They help my son out a lot. Help does better in school now.
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They helped my family out when we were in need. I'll always appreciate that.
Larry

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I have been reading where this Cayce guy has a team of haters working on taking down Konigun Ninjutsu and Mr. Dallas into a false light. They put him in a lot different way than I knew him. I meet the man in 2002 and he was always, an I mean always respectful,to me.and he really did help my son alot. He pushes education to all the students in class. He took his personal time to teach my son school work. The man is no red neck, he is very smart.
Oh, by the way Cayce, I am not a puppet of Konigun Ninjutsu like you try to discredit all that want to voice the other side of the story. You and others claim you want a proper debate but I can see reading the post accross the net that this little hate circle attacks the pro side in a personal manner when a plus point is made. When I say "little circle" it is because I have noticed in my reading that it is the same people over and over, with a few random band wagon hoppers. Let us face it you at the very lease is a Konigun reject that could not meet their standards.
Larry

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Hey I have caught Cayce in a LIE. They did win, that lawsuit on slander and got a Judgement. If Cayce is so sure of himself he should let them serve him process and quit hiding like a coward,and meet them in court. I call him just a few minutes back and amazing he answered the phone and talked to me like a normal friendly person.
Cayce

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Caught me in a lie, or swallowed more of dallas' crap? He did not win any lawsuits, he just claims that he did. And you believe him. Why?

I have not been hiding, not since the beginning of these frivilous lawsuits. They just cannot overcome their own incompetence and find me. I am not about to make things easy for them. I have better uses for my money than spending it on legal representation in frivilous lawsuits.

They will not appear in court. They know they would lose any countersuit filed against them. The fact is, one of the defendants' lawyers told dallas that he would meet him in court and dallas should be prepared for a fight. Pseudoshi dropped the case immediately.

Sure, dallas puts on a good "public face". He's good at manipulating people, especially if they don't care about the truth. How else could someone who weighs 500 pounds convince ANYONE that he's a "ninja grandmaster"?
Cayce

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Call dallas back and as him about thse lies, posted on the homepage of his website:

1) LIE: konigun means 'friendly force'.
TRUTH: konigun is not a Japanese word - in any dialect. Prove me wrong. Find it in any Japanese reference book and I will recant.

2) LIE: konigun is ninjutsu.
TRUTH: dallas has never trained in any form of ninjutsu. He trained by sparring with Roger Williams (Isshinryu karate) and Martin Howell (independent, eclectic) in Grenada, MS. A far cry from Japan.

3) LIE: dallas trained with 'master saija'.
TRUTH:'Saija' is not a Japanese name. Prove me wrong.

4) LIE: konigun is 800 years old.
TRUTH: dallas first started teaching konigun karate in 1983. By my calculations, that's only 24 years. Where did the other 776 years of 'history' come from? Answer - it's fiction.

Question: If dallas is lying about these things, which are essential to his farce, what else is he lying about?
Larry

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Konigun nor Bujinkan in Dictionary
You ask me to clarify things on the website which you label as lies, where is your substance? You go back to your “Not in the dictionary” attack that you tried to use on the term “Shidoshi”. I believe a copy of the Japanese Dictionary containing that term is on the website now. You claimed that it was a term coined by bujinkan, but we see it is an older dialect of Kyushu. Now you claim that Konigun is not a Japanese word, like you did with the term Shidoshi. Why offer to recant your statement, unless you expect to be proven wrong again. To give you a little help with the matter, look up the terms separately under koni and gun. Bujinkan cannot be found in the Japanese Dictionary either, are you saying that they are made up also?
Larry

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Grenada Teacher
You refer to a Roger Williams as training Dr. Dallas by sparing matches. I would love to talk with Roger, how do I contact him? Where is your substance, for I have looked?
1.Dr Dallas had two black belts by the time he ever met Mr. Williams. How could he have two fully trained black belts when he arrived in Grenada, if he learned from Mr. Williams? It would be impossible for Dr. Dallas to arrive on the scene in Grenada, Mississippi by opening a dojo.
2.Also Mr. Williams Isshin-ryu style does not teach all of the weapons that Dr. Dallas knows and taught when you attended at his class. How does he know these weapons and teach them if he did not have previous training. It would be impossible for him to have learned them from Roger Williams.
3.You, yourself, must admit that Dr. Dallas did teach a large array of weapons. They did compete in tournaments with a lot of weapons.
4.How did Konigun start with this first school, if he did not come trained?
5.You claim that three teachers taught him in Grenada, how can I reach them? Where is your substance?
Larry

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Saija
Are people’s names always in the dictionary, No! Hatsumi is not in the dictionary either. You ask me to prove that you are wrong about a master Saija and that he exists. Ok, I did - I asked two people besides Dr. Dallas who have met him. They confirmed his name. Where is your substance?
You have admitted taking under Dr. Dallas for a short term in 83-84, which is 23 years ago. Do you really know this man now?
Have you ever asked him to meet with you in person?
Have you ever bothered to hear his side?
Cayce Porn
Have you contacted any of his active Black Belts to get the other side? I think if you investigate that of the 29 active black belts, 23 have a college degree. You call them puppets but in truth they are educated leaders. They are upstanding figures of their communities, from what I can see, but when I do a search of your information I find things like your personal profile in karate uniform with kama, which promotes porn sites. Nasty ones like older men and younger girls. I saved your profile to show my boy what to avoid on the net. Would you like to explain, Cayce?
I haven’t seen Dr. Dallas in a few years and I plan on going to see him after the holidays. Are there any questions you want me to ask him since you appear to be too afraid to call and ask him yourself?
Cayce

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Bujinkan and Konigun

“You go back to your “Not in the dictionary” attack that you tried to use on the term “Shidoshi”. I believe a copy of the Japanese Dictionary containing that term is on the website now. You claimed that it was a term coined by bujinkan, but we see it is an older dialect of Kyushu.”

Incorrect.

First, informing you that a word is not in the dictionary hardly constitutes an “attack”. Yes, there are some images of an old Japanese dictionary on dallas’ website, and the word ‘shidoshi’ does appear. The definition of the term, as the image shows, is ‘director’. Is the term ‘director’ solely the province of the martial arts? No. It could mean the director of activities for a public event, a movie director, or a director of city traffic. This is not proof that the term ‘shidoshi’ is a martial arts rank or title as dallas claims.

Second, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed that the term was coined by the Bujinkan. That’s more lies by dallas.

“Now you claim that Konigun is not a Japanese word, like you did with the term Shidoshi.”

Neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed that ‘shidoshi’ is not a Japanese word. That’s your own misinterpretation.

"Why offer to recant your statement, unless you expect to be proven wrong again."

Again? I have not been proven wrong as yet.

“To give you a little help with the matter, look up the terms separately under koni and gun. Bujinkan cannot be found in the Japanese Dictionary either, are you saying that they are made up also?“

First: The term “Bujinkan” is interpreted as something akin to “divine warrior”. It is the title Hatsumi Sensei gave to his training hall (Bujinkan Dojo -“training hall of the divine warrior”).

Second: The term konigun does not appear in any Japanese dictionary, abridged or unabridged, or printed in any year, because it does not exist outside dallas’ cult. Pseudoshi simply used a dictionary to translate the English words for ‘friendly’ and ‘force’, then joined the two to create a new word. Pseudoshi’s grasp of the Japanese language was much poorer 24 years ago than it is now. And even in the intervening two decades plus, his grasp of both Japanese and English are still shaky.

Third: Why didn’t dallas include images of the pages that feature the words and definitions for the words ‘koni’,‘gun’, and ‘konigun’? That would have been proof enough for anyone, wouldn’t it? So why don’t they appear on his website?
Cayce

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“Grenada Teacher"

"You refer to a Roger Williams as training Dr. Dallas by sparring matches. I would love to talk with Roger, how do I contact him? Where is your substance, for I have looked?”

So far as I know, Mr. Williams is still in the Grenada, MS area. I have not spoken with him or seen him in over 10 years, and am not inclined to keep myself apprised of his whereabouts. If you want to talk with him, look for yourself. Don’t expect me to do your research for you.

“1.Dr Dallas had two black belts by the time he ever met Mr. Williams. How could he have two fully trained black belts when he arrived in Grenada, if he learned from Mr. Williams? It would be impossible for Dr. Dallas to arrive on the scene in Grenada, Mississippi by opening a dojo.”

First:“Dr.” dallas? Pseudoshi is not a doctor in any way, shape, or form. He purchased both his Ph.D. and his Th.D. from an online diploma mill. He has never achieved a legitimate doctorate from any accredited university. The fact that he promotes himself as having a doctorate is proof enough that he is a fraud.

Second: Who told you that dallas had two black belts before he met Mr. Williams, or by the time he arrived in Grenada, and why did you believe it? dallas trained with Williams for some time before opening his first konigun karate dojo.

“2.Also Mr. Williams Isshin-ryu style does not teach all of the weapons that Dr. Dallas knows and taught when you attended at his class. How does he know these weapons and teach them if he did not have previous training. It would be impossible for him to have learned them from Roger Williams.”

Pseudoshi not only learned by sparring, he learned from movies, books and magazines.

“3.You, yourself, must admit that Dr. Dallas did teach a large array of weapons. They did compete in tournaments with a lot of weapons.”

Yes, he did and still does teach many weapons. So what? Many people do. Through my own training, I can use practically anything for self-protection. And as for tournament competition, that’s further proof that what dallas teaches is not ninjutsu. There are no kata in ninpo, nor can it be used for sparring matches.

“4.How did Konigun start with this first school, if he did not come trained?”

Simple. He trained on his own, or with someone else, prior to opening his first dojo in Grenada in 1983. At the time he opened his dojo, he had two black belts, Travis and Richard Longmire from Duck Hill, MS, and a green belt named Toby (I do not recall his last name). I am not privy to dallas’ entire life prior to the opening of his dojo, though I do make what I learn available to the public.

“5.You claim that three teachers taught him in Grenada, how can I reach them? Where is your substance?“

The only two that I am certain of are Mr. Williams and Mr. Howell. Mr. McRee was training at the time, and met or knew of dallas from the many tournaments he attended. Find them on your own if you are intent on speaking with them. I will do the same.
Larry

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Why do I believe what Dr. Dallas tells me? Well he offers other people or documents that corroborate his evidence. Oh wait that is a new word for you Mr. Cayce. I know this, because I cannot find within hundreds of your postings anything with substance, yes substance. You never offer any proof. Here is a little substance for you:

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