Press On: Nothing to celebrate

Press On: Nothing to celebrate

There are 51 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Jan 7, 2011, titled Press On: Nothing to celebrate. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

I have lived in the South three different times. Twice while in the newspaper business and once while in the military.

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2nd SC Cav

AOL

#1 Jan 7, 2011
This quote is very similar to the one you have by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens. It was made by Abraham Lincoln in his fourth debate with Stephen Douglas in 1858, "I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negros, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
2nd SC Cav

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#3 Jan 7, 2011
Gary, could you explain Lincoln's promise to end slavery in America? On Dec 22, 1860, he told Vice President Alexander Stephens "Do the people of the South really entertain fear that a Republican administration would directly or indirectly interfere with their slaves, or with them about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you that once, as a friend, and still I hope not as an enemy, that there is no cause for such fears. The South would be in no more danger in this respect than it was in the days of Washington."

Sounds to me like he's promising to not end slavery in America. In March, 1861, he made it the law, "No Amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give Congress the power to abolish or interfere within any state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of a person's held to labor or service by laws of said state."
Jim Hall

Cedar Park, TX

#4 Jan 8, 2011
Having lived in he South for about 6 years, what bothers me more at this point in time, to see the old south's historical believes creeping back into this Nations laws and thinking. It bothers me even more, that our National leadership has allowed this to happen without a single word against such actions. States rights was the major reason for the splitting of your Nation and it is being championed more and more during this era. If this cancer to the UNITED states is allowed to continue to undermind our Nation, it will fan the growth of the hate groups and take down the greatness of our Nation as a whole.
Billy Bearden

Douglasville, GA

#5 Jan 8, 2011
Lincoln never promised to end slavery in America, as a cold hard matter of fact, Lincoln, giving his 1st Inagrual Address on March 4th, 1861 gave candid approval and support for ratification of the Corwin Amendment, which actually passed Congress and was ratified by 2 northern states already - making slavery PERMANENT.

But I digress, regardless of how y'all Notherners see yourselves today, we of Southern birth and raising see y'all still as those who feel the need to tell others how to live. Yankees who leave the great urban areas of industrial power, over taxed over regulated people stacked millions deep megopolis of your own creation, to come down here and begin the same process over again, raise our taxes, pass all kinds of stupid laws and restrictions, telling us y'all know better.

Name the top 3 Southerner who went up to New York or Chicago or points north and dictated how yankees should live.
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As for what Vice Presidents say, I suppose you agree with Yankee VP Joe Biden when he says it is Patriotic to pay more in taxes, since the office of VP is the only official spokesman for the Nation, right?
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#6 Jan 8, 2011
You tell'em Billy Bearden - unless you own that human outright, you have no business telling another person what to do. Or how to think.

BRIC - Brazil, Russia, India and China are moving forward at a breakneck speed. And were getting to fight the Civil War all over again. heavy sigh
abc123

Fair Oaks, CA

#7 Jan 8, 2011
Donna Christopher wrote:
You tell'em Billy Bearden - unless you own that human outright, you have no business telling another person what to do. Or how to think.
BRIC - Brazil, Russia, India and China are moving forward at a breakneck speed. And were getting to fight the Civil War all over again. heavy sigh
You tell em Donna. Where do the people in those states get off thinking they can just vote to do whatever they want regardless of what federal law says. Oh wait, that's right, you are one of them.
The good news is once we re-establish states rights I will be able to buy a couple of Mexicans to tend my pot patch.
Jim Hall

United States

#8 Jan 8, 2011
Billy Bearden wrote:
Lincoln never promised to end slavery in America, as a cold hard matter of fact, Lincoln, giving his 1st Inagrual Address on March 4th, 1861 gave candid approval and support for ratification of the Corwin Amendment, which actually passed Congress and was ratified by 2 northern states already - making slavery PERMANENT.
But I digress, regardless of how y'all Notherners see yourselves today, we of Southern birth and raising see y'all still as those who feel the need to tell others how to live. Yankees who leave the great urban areas of industrial power, over taxed over regulated people stacked millions deep megopolis of your own creation, to come down here and begin the same process over again, raise our taxes, pass all kinds of stupid laws and restrictions, telling us y'all know better.
Name the top 3 Southerner who went up to New York or Chicago or points north and dictated how yankees should live.
1)
2)
3)
As for what Vice Presidents say, I suppose you agree with Yankee VP Joe Biden when he says it is Patriotic to pay more in taxes, since the office of VP is the only official spokesman for the Nation, right?
Your comment reflects perfectly that fact that to this day, many in the south, still look as themselves as living in a seperate country. They have no problem, excepting S.S payments, medicare, the protection of this Nations Military, but, think and sorry to say, believe they can live by rules and laws that are not part of our Nation. Your not being told any differently then the rest of us, one what laws and rules are to be followed, as being citizens of the United States of America. Look around you, you have the lowest rated educated population in our Nation, the lowest rated pay scales for the working class, and still allow for a level of bigotry, not only towards folks of color but to your fellow American citizens of our Nation. The south has some very fine qualities, but continue to be stained by hanging on to so many outdated traditions that lesson the quality of life for both folks living in the south and those visiting the south.
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#9 Jan 8, 2011
abc123 wrote:
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You tell em Donna. Where do the people in those states get off thinking they can just vote to do whatever they want regardless of what federal law says. Oh wait, that's right, you are one of them.
The good news is once we re-establish states rights I will be able to buy a couple of Mexicans to tend my pot patch.
Wow, you got me abc123 - using cannabis is EXACTLY the same as owning another human being, working them like chattel and selling them, their spouse or children off as mere chattel. Yesserree boy howdy - you really got me on that one. Not.

Please tell me you were merely stoned and not just plain ol' stupid. Stoned - you can sober up. Stupid, such as your brand, can be to the bone and rarely rectified.
YUPPER

Lakeport, CA

#10 Jan 8, 2011
left wing imbecile b/s, states rights were what this nation was founded on, not crack obama mans socialist agenda, try ending the pain, suck on the barrel of a 357 loser...lol...lol...lol...
Jim Hall wrote:
Having lived in he South for about 6 years, what bothers me more at this point in time, to see the old south's historical believes creeping back into this Nations laws and thinking. It bothers me even more, that our National leadership has allowed this to happen without a single word against such actions. States rights was the major reason for the splitting of your Nation and it is being championed more and more during this era. If this cancer to the UNITED states is allowed to continue to undermind our Nation, it will fan the growth of the hate groups and take down the greatness of our Nation as a whole.
cobbjesus

Lakeport, CA

#11 Jan 8, 2011
can i buy young lady mexicans with firm breasts and no knowledge of english? better than an american loser woman any day...lol...
abc123 wrote:
<quoted text>
You tell em Donna. Where do the people in those states get off thinking they can just vote to do whatever they want regardless of what federal law says. Oh wait, that's right, you are one of them.
The good news is once we re-establish states rights I will be able to buy a couple of Mexicans to tend my pot patch.
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#12 Jan 8, 2011
Sorry cobbjesus, abc123 will be keeping the cream of his human stock to himself. Afterall, how can you rape; abuse, sell or even execute chattel*- that stuff is just in a days work for folks with his mindset.

Am curious how the landfill will deal with that situation. Are human carcasses recyclable or merely compostable? We need these answers abc123 - the carcasses either go in the blue can or green can - we await your guidance Obi Wan.
Typicallakecount yreaction

Napa, CA

#13 Jan 8, 2011
Well, I have to say this. I do not particularly like the RB because they print a lot of inaccurate material and then pass it off as the truth. However this particular editorial is completely accurate. Even if you did not believe it on it's face the evidence from some of the troglodytes posting here is enough to completely confirm it.

Many of the southerners with these views,(not all hold them), are just weak and not particularly intelligent individuals. Those kind of people always need a scapegoat for their own shortcomings. We have a lot of those same kind of individuals here also. Lucerne Sow comes to mind. A lot of these people are depraved individuals and know it themselves. Their family life must have been a kind of hell growing up for them to have so much hate for generic classes of people that just happen to have a different skin color, language, or even accent. They truly are pathetic excuses for human beings.

However that kind of culture seems to have an institutionalized form in the south. It seems to me when they are arguing for states' right what they are really arguing for is the right to behave in an uncivilized way. I say that because those same arguers always DO act in uncivilized ways. You only have to look at a few of the commenters here to realize it. Personally, I'm tired of the Fox News watching, red baiting, low IQ people of the south voting in our national elections. It is how we got George W Bush. I'd be more than happy to say "you were right after all. You all should have your own messed up country and just leave us alone. Sayonarra, y'all."

I would just be so pleased if that would actually happen. Who needs them anyway. And I should also say that the people sympathetic to that racist mentality that live here should get on down there where they belong and leave the rest of the good people in Lake County alone.
Billy Bearden

Sargent, GA

#14 Jan 8, 2011
Jim Hall wrote:
<quoted text>
Your comment reflects perfectly that fact that to this day, many in the south, still look as themselves as living in a seperate country. They have no problem, excepting S.S payments, medicare, the protection of this Nations Military, but, think and sorry to say, believe they can live by rules and laws that are not part of our Nation. Your not being told any differently then the rest of us, one what laws and rules are to be followed, as being citizens of the United States of America. Look around you, you have the lowest rated educated population in our Nation, the lowest rated pay scales for the working class, and still allow for a level of bigotry, not only towards folks of color but to your fellow American citizens of our Nation. The south has some very fine qualities, but continue to be stained by hanging on to so many outdated traditions that lesson the quality of life for both folks living in the south and those visiting the south.
My friend Jim,

Me and my sister took care of our parents till they died, in our homes. No govt intervention, and certainly no obama/pelosi death panels. I have a 1967 chevrolet that certainly qualified for obama cash for clunkers, but didn't participate in that scam. Didn't jump on the housing for everyone bandwagon, and we mailed the check for $1500 from bush back to the govt. I dont expect SS to be there for me or my wife, and as far as medicare, only my mother in law is on it.

What you term bigotry is simple God fearing beliefs and traditional raising here in the South. NO homosexuals for spouses, preachers or soldiers, mo abortions, abide by the laws = no illegal aliens, own and learn how to use guns, honor your mother and father and ancestors, and support capitol punishment.

A Country Boy will survive!
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#15 Jan 8, 2011
Billy - did either of your parents have/had Durable Powers of Attorney for Health Care - Advanced Medical Directives? That is the basis of the 'death panels' in 'obama care'. Have you heard about the real death panels in Arizona? Funny that a Republican from the north went through Arizona's budget and found not one, not two, but well over 2 dozen ways they could pay for their organ transplant program. Unfortunately, two people died while that was going on. Now THAT'S a death panel. Asking your doctor about end of life decisions is common sense even a 'Country Boy' should have - but it sure ain't no 'death panel'.

And why are you for 'mo abortions'? Or is that only for people in them thar ghettos with too much melanin in their skin?
Billy Bearden

Sargent, GA

#16 Jan 8, 2011
State's Rights

Prostitution or not, Gambling or not, Marijuana or not, Homo Marraige or not, Motorcycle helmets or not, Capitol punishment or not, Illegal aliens allowed or not, should be abortion or not, and yes, at one time, slavery or not, but then slavery still exists in places like Africa and Egypt, and in dark corners of America
Billy Bearden

Sargent, GA

#17 Jan 8, 2011
Donna Christopher wrote:
And why are you for 'mo abortions'? Or is that only for people in them thar ghettos with too much melanin in their skin?
Sorry, bad eyesight, meant NO abortions. SCOTUS judge Ginsberg actually stated the real reason for abortions, and that was to keep down other races - like blacks. Recent stats show that abotions are doing just that, it kills more blacks by abortion than the 5 major other ways of death combined.

Not sure about y'all, but as bad a slavery was, abortion is far worse. If it took 620,000 deaths to pay for American slavery, how many billions must perish to pay for American abortion?
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#18 Jan 8, 2011
C'mon Billy - my question wasn't that hard to answer. Hell, it was written by a ridgerunning hillbilly from WV. Advanced directives or not?
abc123

Fair Oaks, CA

#19 Jan 8, 2011
Donna Christopher wrote:
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Wow, you got me abc123 - using cannabis is EXACTLY the same as owning another human being, working them like chattel and selling them, their spouse or children off as mere chattel. Yesserree boy howdy - you really got me on that one. Not.
Please tell me you were merely stoned and not just plain ol' stupid. Stoned - you can sober up. Stupid, such as your brand, can be to the bone and rarely rectified.
It's about the law Donna. If you think it's legal to grow canabis you have to allow Georgia to buy and sell slaves. States rights sister. Or is that concept to complicated for you?
Bill

Campbell, CA

#20 Jan 8, 2011
Well said, Mr. Dickson.
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#21 Jan 8, 2011
Okay, now ya got two questions to answer, the above not answered one and do you have a link and a direct quote from Ginsberg - or did you get that gem from Beck?

Hey, if the South is gonna raise up again, you got to be able to at least answer a couple of easy questions.

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