DUI checkpoint nets many arrests, ple...

DUI checkpoint nets many arrests, plenty of drama

There are 573 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Apr 24, 2010, titled DUI checkpoint nets many arrests, plenty of drama. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

West Manchester Township Police Officer Adam Bruckhart, left, and York Area Regional Police Officer Mike Georgiou watch as a driver suspected of DUI performs a field sobriety test at a DUI checkpoint at the Interstate 83 Business Loop on Friday.

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Bill

York, PA

#166 Apr 25, 2010
Bob R wrote:
Anyone remember when SCOTT HOSE, a COP and son of the former York City Police Chief...and later head of the sheriffs dept, got good and sauced up and ran a stop sign and nearly killed two women? Of course, he got off rather lightly and is STILL a COP! How can that BE?!
That was all because Scott and his daddy are best buddies with the DA at the time. Scott and daddy must of had some good stuff on Rebert for the deal he got.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#167 Apr 25, 2010
Paralegal Man wrote:
<quoted text>
That's correct! And medical science has PROVEN it! Not my opinion, but a fact.
At .08% BAC, they aren't even talking a level of impairment anymore either, that's why the legal verbiage "operating with a prohibited blood alcohol content" is used.
lola

Millersville, PA

#168 Apr 25, 2010
QUOTE "Richard_"
I beat my DUI, it cost me 10K in attorney fees and some time with a suspended DL, but I beat it.

Because most people have an extra 10 grand layin around.
Don't drive after you drink. Really people, this isn't that hard!
Robert Dobalina

York, PA

#169 Apr 25, 2010
Paralegal Man wrote:
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Again, essentially, as I said earlier, put up or shut the F*** up! How is it that I'm uninformed? What exactly did I say that is contrary to fundamental law? NOTHING apparently because you can't back it up with any sort of proper rebuttal.
No one I work with would ever even consider taking a client such as you, you have no regard for the very principals of civil liberty and fundamental law our nation was founded upon.
All you've done in your post about Richard and myself is to call names and put labels upon us. I'm unsure that if everything Richard has posted is legally correct or not, however, at least, MOST of what I've what I read of his posts IS correct.
If you are gonna take the time to talk all your BS against me, at the very least be intelligent. If you think I'm "wrong" somehow or my "legalese" is without merit... THEN BACK IT UP!!!
If I'm wrong in some way or another I'm man enough to admit it, but PROVE UP your claim. If something I've said is without merit... WHY is it, and WHAT makes it so.
Everyone is entitled to there own "opinion"... Not everyone is entitled to their own facts. Everything I've said in my previous posts is of a factual nature and can be verified.
I'm quite certain that you would represent anyone that walked through your door if they had the necessary funds to be represented.
Tip

Shreveport, LA

#170 Apr 25, 2010
gofukurself wrote:
makes the highways safer?? thats what they want you to think. it just puts money in their pockets...you dont hear of any stings on the heroin safe houses and crack houses that are killin hundreds of kids every day...becaue a .08 DUI is easy money. after this DUI sting operation was over 90% of the PIGS doing it went out and got drunk and celebrated. gtfo.
You are an absolute moron. Gofollow your name.
Rocky

Jefferson, TX

#171 Apr 25, 2010
Knucklehead, read it again. They are not charged with DUI until AFTER the blood sample has been taken. You are not entitled to an attorney UNLESS you are charged.
John Doe 000069 wrote:
I have this booklet titled About the Constitution of the United States of America. You can get this from your local Representative or from The Office of the Chief Clerk. It talks about how the Constitution of this once great country was written. As for a cop charging a person with DUI and not allowing them to contact a lawyer is unconstitution. Period. Then they are are going to illegally take your blood. It must be nice to violate a persons Constitutional rights. A lot of these charges would be tossed out in court if this state and all states would ban former cops and DA's to become judges. Think about it a judge that used to be a cop believes all the lies the cops tell. A judge is suppose to be bias. They can't be if they used to be a cop. These check points are illegal.
DriveSafe

Spring Grove, PA

#172 Apr 25, 2010
Impairment begins w/ the first drink.

Cops should sit out at the bars and prevent drunks from driving...

And all cops who drive drunk should be arrested and lose their job and face the same penalties all others face.

And the we should have a drive sober O.O % law. Anyone with a BAC above a 0.0 % should lose their license, vehicle and both hands.
SSDD

Jersey Shore, PA

#173 Apr 25, 2010
Rocky wrote:
Knucklehead, read it again. They are not charged with DUI until AFTER the blood sample has been taken. You are not entitled to an attorney UNLESS you are charged.
<quoted text>
ANd your submitting to a blood or urine test is part of the agreement you signed as a licensed driver. You do have the right to refuse all testing but that carries a penalty and the fact you refused can and will be held against you.

The SCOTUS has ruled that DUI checkpoints are legal so there is no further argument there. Someone else posted it earlier, do not drink and drive. It is just that simple.
Snake Doc

Brogue, PA

#174 Apr 25, 2010
John Doe,

Be careful becuase you are giving very bad advice. They are not illegally taking the blood as you indicate. By obtaining a driver's license, which is a privlidge not a right, you indicate that you give implied consent to have your blood drawn should you be stopped for DUI. The loss of your license is an Administrative proceeding on the part of Penn Dot, not a criminal one. The refusal to submit will be introduced as evidence in the criminal prosectuion. In addition the refusal will most likely keep a first time offender from being accepted to ARD. So, if a first time offender takes your half cocked jail house attorney advice, they'll be screwing themselves. Best thing to do is not drive drunk in the first place. To the seven people who didn't have their kids restrained, shame on you, you're crappy parents, grow the F up. Excellent Job by everyone involved, Thank You.
george the carpenter

York, PA

#175 Apr 25, 2010
I don't understand? Do not all you people understand the importance of the continuance of the DUI industry? Making all these so called unconstitional searches and arrests keeps alot of people employed. What would all the probation officers, ARD class teachers, attourneys, court workers... do if this buisness did not go on? Don't you all realize how important this is too the economy?
bob

Dover, PA

#176 Apr 25, 2010
its about he money. they make alot of money from fines and other charges. it has gotten to be big bussines
Mr-Obvious

Red Lion, PA

#177 Apr 25, 2010
Police are bitc hes
Wandell is a criminal

York, PA

#178 Apr 25, 2010
gofukurself wrote:
makes the highways safer?? thats what they want you to think. it just puts money in their pockets...you dont hear of any stings on the heroin safe houses and crack houses that are killin hundreds of kids every day...becaue a .08 DUI is easy money. after this DUI sting operation was over 90% of the PIGS doing it went out and got drunk and celebrated. gtfo.
You are 100% correct. This is one of the biggest scams out there...and people actually believe that the streets are safer!!!
GoodJob

York, PA

#179 Apr 25, 2010
Good job by PSP, YARPD, and West Man. PD, as well as all the others who assisted. Maybe you don't think it's worth the tax dollars to set up these check points, but it is. The numbers of drunk drivers and alcohol related traffic incidents have been on the decline. As far as gofukurself's comment, they don't talk about most of the big drug busts because the information they get from those are sensitive and lead to even more arrests of those higher in the drug world. Think what you want, but this is the truth. I work with the state police on these raids and know they are effective. Keep up the good work PD depts and BE SAFE!
The Drama Continues

York, PA

#180 Apr 25, 2010
These checkpoints are published in advance and yet they STILL knock off TWELVE DUI'S ??!!

If people are stupid enough to drink and drive..they deserve getting arrested. DUI is not a mistake it takes actual effort to consume alcohol and than drive. PERIOD.

It is time to start seizing the cars of repeat offenders.
The Drama Continues

York, PA

#181 Apr 25, 2010
george the carpenter wrote:
I don't understand? Do not all you people understand the importance of the continuance of the DUI industry? Making all these so called unconstitional searches and arrests keeps alot of people employed. What would all the probation officers, ARD class teachers, attourneys, court workers... do if this buisness did not go on? Don't you all realize how important this is too the economy?
If these searches were unconstitutional , any lawyer fresh out of law school would get every case thrown out. Since that is NOT happening...you must be WRONG.

NEXT idiot please !!
Paralegal Man

Gettysburg, PA

#182 Apr 25, 2010
Robert Dobalina wrote:
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I'm quite certain that you would represent anyone that walked through your door if they had the necessary funds to be represented.
No I wouldn't "represent" just anyone. Legal firms can and do sometimes refuse service to potential clients for various reasons. It's a rare thing but it does happen on occasion. For example: certain personal injury law firms that represent clients for no cost unless they win the case, will not take on a case unless very likely they will win it.

My whole purpose for being involved in legal work can be discovered by reading the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, etc. It's my desire to educate others as to what their God given rights are and to enforce them as necessary. It's really that simple.

Some people have really unnecessarily attacked me on here for reasons unknown to me. Why am I such a "bad guy" because I believe in the principals our country was founded upon? Principles never change 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Whether you agree with that fact or not it makes no difference. The problem now is four-fold: 1) many Americans simply have no idea what their rights really are, therefore they can't defend them not knowing what they are 2) those in law enforcement and others in the government swear an oath to defend and support the constitution but yet their very actions are so contrary to that oath of office 3) those who do swear an oath to defend and support the Constitution likely have never even read it in it's entirety to even be knowledgeable of it. 4) many folks through ignorance of the law act as if their "public servants" in government are really the masters, which is a total myth.

As far as DUI checkpoints go, let the statistics do the talking for me... "roving dui patrols" resulting in a traditional vehicle traffic stop, have been shown to catch more dui offenders than do roadblocks. Why can't we obey the Constitution and keep our roads safe at the same time? The truth is we can and road blocks are not the answer.

And let me make this PERFECTLY CLEAR... I do not advocate drunk driving. If you put another human being in danger there should be punishment. However, we have a Constitution and it needs to be obeyed and followed in the clear way it was written down.
FahQ Focker

York, PA

#183 Apr 25, 2010
cat wrote:
People who choose to do drugs are only hurting themselves, usually. But when you choose to drive impaired, you are always taking the chance of hurting or killing innocent people. You will feel different about when it happens to you or someone close to you. And I don't care if the officers got drunk afterward, as long as they didn't drive!
But they did drive only difference is they are "above" the law if they get pulled over their pig buddies will let them off
keep pa safe

Glen Rock, PA

#184 Apr 25, 2010
you really need to get a grip on the laws of our country and calm down your anger against our countries laws and dont bring in our countries service men into this they are not fighting a war now so that people can drink and drive , are you really serious in making taht statement ???? we all have a right to be safe and not worry about being killed by a drunk driver . as much education as there is out there about dui arrests , laws , not drinking and driving , making alternative plans , calling someone to pick up up ....there is no excuse !!!! once people learn the laws they should refrain from drinking and driving and drink responsibly . as far as the laws in the state ,implied consent is signed for when you get your license in the state of pennsylvania , it is a privelage to drive in this state , when you refuse you lose your license for 12 months second offense is 18 months . you do ont have to be convicted of the dui to lose your license for 1 year just refuse the blood test and penn dot steps in with the implied consent law . call a cab , walk , sleep it off in the back seat of your car but dont risk your life and someones elses life drinking and driving .
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, you're wrong, that is common misconception. However, field sobriety tests can be refused, as well as the portable breath tests.
As for blood tests and the police station's EVIDENTIARY breathalyser, you are correct as the officer had to have probable cause to get you to the evidentiary breathalyser.
I don't really care if you know your rights or not, it's very common in the United States for people to be ignorant. However, other people who choose to not be ignorant of their rights, need to know that they have a right to;
1. refuse field sobriety tests,
2. refuse portable non-evidentiary breath testing devices,
3. refuse to answer questions or make statements to police,
4. have an attorney present.
The thing that people need to keep in mind is that breathalysers, including evidentiary breathalysers that police use to obtain convictions, can be off as much as 50%. Therefore, if you actually have a legal to drive BAC of .04 to .07%, the police station evidentiary breathalyser in error may show you at .08 to .14%.

Therefore, you should invoke your rights as much as possible during a police DUI witch hunt, just do so respectfully. After all, it was US service men and women that died serving this country who swore a lifetime oath to support and defend the US Constitution, so don't let a police officer convince you that you should wipe your ass on it by waiving your rights.
keep pa safe

Glen Rock, PA

#185 Apr 25, 2010
would you be saying the same thing if yur daughter , son , wife or loved one was killed by a drunk driver ????? whats that you say .... NO , I thought not.....please understand that too many people are killed by drunk drivers , they are only trying to make the roads safe for everyone ..... and lucky for you it means you too !
george the carpenter wrote:
I don't understand? Do not all you people understand the importance of the continuance of the DUI industry? Making all these so called unconstitional searches and arrests keeps alot of people employed. What would all the probation officers, ARD class teachers, attourneys, court workers... do if this buisness did not go on? Don't you all realize how important this is too the economy?

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