Global warming skeptics to take cente...

Global warming skeptics to take center stage in Portland Wednesday

There are 13 comments on the The Oregonian story from Jan 25, 2012, titled Global warming skeptics to take center stage in Portland Wednesday. In it, The Oregonian reports that:

When it comes to global warming, the American Meteorological Society has strong views: "Human activities are a major contributor to climate change," the society says, and "increases in greenhouse gases are nearly certain to produce continued increases in temperature." But at 7 p.m. Wednesday, the society's Oregon chapter will give three opponents ... (more)

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“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#1 Jan 25, 2012
"I don't deny humans have an effect," Taylor says, "but I think natural variations really dominate climate change."
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My sentiments also.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#2 Jan 25, 2012
"The state of science is so far out of step with people's understanding of the state of the science, and I'm not sure the best way to address that," says Phil Mote, director of the Oregon Climate Change Research Institute at Oregon State University. "I don't know if debates are helpful."

Climate scientists have "moved on from 'is it happening, is it anthropogenic (man-made),'" Hulbe says.

But the public, particularly conservatives, have not.
*The scientific community is quite clear that man is responsible for 90%+ of the warming.
But numerous scientific bodies -- from the AMS to the National Academy of Sciences -- have sided with climate scientists, he notes.

"I'm not familiar with any organization that has expertise with respect to climate that even has a neutral position," he says.

A 2010 study published by the National Academy of Sciences found 97 percent of climate scientists most actively publishing backed human-caused warming.


We're left with a percentage of the population who are out of step with the scientific understanding, very often because they don't want to believe what the science is saying.
That's consistent with an unscientific survey for Oregon's Global Warming Commission last year that found Oregonians are living in "separate realities" on global warming based on political ideology.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#3 Jan 25, 2012
FuGyou wrote:
*The scientific community is quite clear that man is responsible for 90%+ of the warming.
BS.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#4 Jan 25, 2012
The fact that science is many years away from properly understanding global climate doesn't seem to bother our leaders at all. Inviting testimony only from those who don't question political orthodoxy on the issue, parliamentarians are charging ahead with the impossible and expensive goal of "stopping global climate change."
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialp...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#5 Jan 25, 2012
From the same article:
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Climate stability has never been a feature of planet Earth. The only constant about climate is change; it changes continually and, at times, quite rapidly. Many times in the past, temperatures were far higher than today, and occasionally, temperatures were colder. As recently as 6,000 years ago, it was about 3C warmer than now. Ten thousand years ago, while the world was coming out of the thou-sand-year-long "Younger Dryas" cold episode, temperatures rose as much as 6C in a decade -- 100 times faster than the past century's 0.6C warming that has so upset environmentalists.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#6 Jan 25, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>BS.
No, the current scientific understanding.

http://rabett.blogspot.com/2012/01/coming-soo...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#7 Jan 25, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
The fact that science is many years away from properly understanding global climate ...
We've had a good understanding for decades.

http://rabett.blogspot.com/2012/01/coming-soo...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#8 Jan 25, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
From the same article:
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Climate stability has never been a feature of planet Earth..
Climate has been stable for 10,000.

We're now heading out of that stability.

http://rabett.blogspot.com/2012/01/coming-soo...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#9 Jan 25, 2012
FuGyou wrote:
We've had a good understanding for decades.
I haven't known you for decades.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#10 Jan 26, 2012
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
*The scientific community is quite clear that man is responsible for 90%+ of the warming.
<quoted text>
We're left with a percentage of the population who are out of step with the scientific understanding, very often because they don't want to believe what the science is saying.
<quoted text>
More Lies from the AGW CULT....Gee, what a surprise!

If "The scientific community is quite clear that man is responsible for 90%+ of the warming" then they should have:

- At least ONE Law of Science that supports the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect.
- At least ONE Measurement, EVER DONE, that shows that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth.

But they don't.
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The TRUTH always exposes these AGW FRAUDS that claim to be "The scientific community".

In fact, EVERY MEASUREMENT EVER DONE, PROVES THAT A COLD ATMOSPHERE "CANNOT" HEAT-UP A WARMER EARTH!

Exactly like the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states:

“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow. Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...

Like all "Scientific Quacks" throughout History, the AGW'ers have to constantly LIE to the Public while running like hell away from the FACT that their "SCAM" does not have a shread of established Science or Measurements to support their fantastic claims.

Hell, even a four year old Child knows that Cold Objects can't heat-up Warm Objects.
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When the AGW CULT Members, like FairGame-ody, deficates LYING crap like this:

"We're left with a percentage of the population who are out of step with the scientific understanding, very often because they don't want to believe what the science is saying."

It is sure bet that he is a delusional AGW Cult Sheeple that has no conscience or morals left in his vacant mind and has become Human Garbage.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#11 Jan 26, 2012
Having watched a number of Star Trek episodes over the last few decades, it is really amazing how some of the devices and science has come close to reality today.

We even have an approximation of the "Borg" in todays AGW CULT.

"The Borg use abduction and "assimilation" (enforced cybernetic enhancement, connection to the hive mind) as a means of "achieving perfection"."

"The Borg have become a symbol in popular culture for any juggernaut against which "resistance is futile".

"This is achieved through forced assimilation, a process which takes individuals and technology, enhancing and controlling them."

"In nearly all their encounters, they exhibit no desire for negotiation or reason, only assimilation."

"..the "hive mind" or "collective consciousness", this is the term used to describe the group mind of the Borg civilization. Each Borg individual, or drone, is linked to the collective by a sophisticated subspace network that ensures each member is given constant supervision and guidance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_ (Star_Trek)

I think that the Borg description comes pretty close to describing the brainwashed sheeple in the AGW CULT.
litesong

Marysville, WA

#12 Jan 27, 2012
gored wrote:
Having watched a number of Star Trek episodes over the last few decades, it is really amazing how......We even have an approximation of the "Borg" in todays(sic)......
Over the last few decades, having watched cigarette company execs testify before congress, that there wasn't a cigarette-cancer connection, we even have an approximation of cigarette-cancer deniers in today's AGW deniers.
litesong

Marysville, WA

#13 Jan 27, 2012
FairGame wrote:
We've had a good understanding for decades.
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'piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling' wrote:
I haven't known you for decades.
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litesong wrote:
But I've know for years that 'piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling' is a slimy filthy vile pukey proud reprobate racist rooting pig.

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