Election 2012: President Obama shifts to Paul Ryan education plan

[Bystander]

Mr_Bill wrote:

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Not really.
Ryan is only represiding "TRICKLE DOWN, or 'supply side economics' which we have seen fail under Hover, Coolidge, Reagan, and Bush II.
Trickle down is a dead, false, disproved theory; but that is Ryan's one idea. More trickle down.
And, Ryan's trickle down is just to increase the taxes paid by the suffering American middle class, while cutting the taxes of the rich.
I do not wish to, and cannot subsidize very rich guys. But, that is all Ryan offers.

I am soooo tired of hearing the wealthy don't pay their fair share. The Romney's are one huband, one wife. At 14% They paid 2.4 MILLION in federal income tax alone. Then paid more into State income tax.

On top of that they gave 4 MILLION in contributions oot various charities from whom many of us benefited.

It's all the 'living on entitlements' folks that pay NO TAXES and make the most use of the courts, police, medicaid, food stamps, energy assistance, planned partenthood, low income housing, free daycare, free job training for jobs they never intend to get......should I go on?

Don't kid yourself. It's all the wealthy and middle class and small businesses paying all the taxes. We don't need a tax increase on anyone. We need to cut spending STARTING WITH Obamacare.

George Bush would not play one round of golf during the Iraq war. NEVER entered the Oval office without a coat and tie. Even if he was woken at 2 AM.

Obama uses the whole place like a frat house, plays golfs in shorts, while our military members are at war,for Lord's sake, Michelle cannot get enought tax paid vacations and they fly Bo, the dog on a seperate plane.

Ohio, turn it over to someone who knows economy and business, who had the humanity to shut his business down to search for a worker's daughter, loves the country and will respect the office.

Obama's scared to death of Paul Ryan. Biden's too dumb to be.

The 2008 experiment has failed.

[Anonymous of Indy]

Bystander wrote:

<quoted text> I am soooo tired of hearing the wealthy don't pay their fair share. The Romney's are one huband, one wife. At 14% They paid 2.4 MILLION in federal income tax alone. Then paid more into State income tax.
On top of that they gave 4 MILLION in contributions oot various charities from whom many of us benefited.
It's all the 'living on entitlements' folks that pay NO TAXES and make the most use of the courts, police, medicaid, food stamps, energy assistance, planned partenthood, low income housing, free daycare, free job training for jobs they never intend to get......should I go on?
Don't kid yourself. It's all the wealthy and middle class and small businesses paying all the taxes. We don't need a tax increase on anyone. We need to cut spending STARTING WITH Obamacare.
George Bush would not play one round of golf during the Iraq war. NEVER entered the Oval office without a coat and tie. Even if he was woken at 2 AM.
Obama uses the whole place like a frat house, plays golfs in shorts, while our military members are at war,for Lord's sake, Michelle cannot get enought tax paid vacations and they fly Bo, the dog on a seperate plane.
Ohio, turn it over to someone who knows economy and business, who had the humanity to shut his business down to search for a worker's daughter, loves the country and will respect the office.
Obama's scared to death of Paul Ryan. Biden's too dumb to be.
The 2008 experiment has failed.

Presidential vacations: How does Obama compare? and this was last year

There has been criticism of the president's vacation at this time. But how does the number of vacation days the president has spent compare to his predecessors? CBS Radio's Mark Knoller has kept track of presidential vacations for years and supplied the data.

So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.

Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton took the least time off -- 28 days.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-2009380...

[Vance1]

Ron Paul: Department of Education wants to 'indoctrinate' children

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/518...

Democrats advance 'lesbians-as-role models' plan
'Costly state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing'
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/278681/

Obamanation is bent on indoctrinating our children.

Stop Indoctrinating Our Kids!
http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2012/...

[Anonymous of Indy]

Vance1 wrote:

Ron Paul: Department of Education wants to 'indoctrinate' children
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/518...
Democrats advance 'lesbians-as-role models' plan
'Costly state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing'
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/278681/
Obamanation is bent on indoctrinating our children.
Stop Indoctrinating Our Kids!
http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2012/...

Sounds like the Goal of John D. Rockefeller when he got involved with Public Education with the General Education Board in 1902.

"The purpose of the foundation (the General Education Board) was to use the power of money, not to raise the level of education in America, as was widely believed at the time, but to influence the direction of that education... The object was to use the classroom to teach attitudes that encourage people to be passive and submissive to their rulers. The goal was-and is-to create citizens who were educated enough for productive work under supervision but not enough to question authority or seek to rise above their class. True education was to be restricted to the sons and daughters of the elite. For the rest, it would be better to productive skilled workers with no particular aspirations other than to enjoy life." -G. Edward Griffin in The Creature from Jekyll Island

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

Vance1 wrote:

Ron Paul: Department of Education wants to 'indoctrinate' children
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/518...
Democrats advance 'lesbians-as-role models' plan
'Costly state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing'
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/278681/
Obamanation is bent on indoctrinating our children.
Stop Indoctrinating Our Kids!
http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2012/...

Obama just wants them educated. Rmoney and Ryan want to Privatize and Capitalize.

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

robert wrote:

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If government deserved credit for a businesses success in the first place you might have a point in the second place.
I have had a business and government did not build that.

They didn't build that!!!
Politics and Government - 2012 Presidential Watch - The Caucus ... thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/ - Similarto Politics and Government - 2012 Presidential Watch - The Caucus ...
3 hours ago ... The Caucus - The Politics and Government blog of The New York Times ..... at the Republican National Convention may not be seen by ABC, CBS,... A petition has been started on the White House Web site asking that the ...
BBCW: Oops, GOP Convention Held in Government Funded Stadium bungalowbillscw.blogspot.com/2012/08/oops-gop...
6 hours ago ... A theme of the Republican National Convention is "We Built This".... A majority of the funds to build the stadium came from the government.

[Bystander]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>years George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-2009380...

Yeah, at his ranch where his staff joined him for meetings. Not exactly a vacation. is it?

Obama's staff and especially the press corps can't find him half the time. Too busy taping 'Entertainment Tonight'.

Do a search on 'Bo the dog flys to Maine'

You know, up until around January I'd complain, "Good Lord, I never saw any president on TV so much!"

Since then he's slowly gone under the radar. "Where's Waldo?"

The guy's a bad joke at the country's expense for the last four years. We're not looking for 'cool' anymore and he has no substance.

Take away his teleprompter and he's toast. Man there will be some fact checking after the debate.

[UdintBuildThat]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>How Doctors Gouge Medicare
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-438422...

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If Dr.s aren't being paid fair market value, they'll either adapt and improvise, or else they just won't accept new Medicare patients.
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If they are told they are forced to, they will say FU and move to Costa Rica or New Zealand.
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So will you sell beans if they embargo them and drive the price down to $6 bucks indy? BTW, I sold another 1000 today.

[UdintBuildThat]

Thinking about buying puts incase president downgrade decides to do the stupid thing and embargo.
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You know theres chimps chirping in his ear to do it. Of course he would do it even though the last time they did, the world market went to Brazil, tore down the rain forest and planted soybeans... Thanks Jimuh Cawtuh...

[Bystander]

Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:

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They didn't build that!!!
Politics and Government - 2012 Presidential Watch - The Caucus ... thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/ - Similarto Politics and Government - 2012 Presidential Watch - The Caucus ...
3 hours ago ... The Caucus - The Politics and Government blog of The New York Times ..... at the Republican National Convention may not be seen by ABC, CBS,... A petition has been started on the White House Web site asking that the ...
BBCW: Oops, GOP Convention Held in Government Funded Stadium bungalowbillscw.blogspot.com/2012/08/oops-gop...
6 hours ago ... A theme of the Republican National Convention is "We Built This".... A majority of the funds to build the stadium came from the government.

"A majority of the funds to build the stadium came from the government"

Idiot, the government got the money from the TAXPAYERS. Republicans and Democrats and independents.
And no doubt, the RNC is paying big bucks to rent the stadium and make improvements to it.

The government has NO INCOME other than taxes collected from citizens. The government pays for NOTHING, taxpayers pay for it all.

The government is to serve at the taxpayers pleasure. Their bosses, if you will, who pay them their salaries, health care and pensions, along with their expensive junkets, like those recently uncovered re the GSA, Federal Courts and now the Veteran's Administration.$22,000.00 for a short film spoofing the movie "Patton' for their private entertainment when we have 8.7% unemployment. An insult to any ethical person.

You don't raise taxes and you don't waste money during an economic downturn, which, in reality is a recession.(A 'blame Bush reply can be expected)

Copy, paste and site all the shakey sources you want. We, the people, are not stupid.

[Anonymous of Indy]

UdintBuildThat wrote:

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If Dr.s aren't being paid fair market value, they'll either adapt and improvise, or else they just won't accept new Medicare patients.
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If they are told they are forced to, they will say FU and move to Costa Rica or New Zealand.
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So will you sell beans if they embargo them and drive the price down to $6 bucks indy? BTW, I sold another 1000 today.

nope, but beans are going to go high, china is in desperate need of soybeans and the chinese government is talking about rationing because Soybeans are predicted to go even higher.

[Anonymous of Indy]

UdintBuildThat wrote:

Thinking about buying puts incase president downgrade decides to do the stupid thing and embargo.
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You know theres chimps chirping in his ear to do it. Of course he would do it even though the last time they did, the world market went to Brazil, tore down the rain forest and planted soybeans... Thanks Jimuh Cawtuh...

I dont think it will happen because the government would loose out on tax revenue if they did that and the government needs every tax dollar they can get right now. About 2 weeks Argentina said they were thinking about getting ready to sell their Reserve stock of Soybeans because the price is so high and the Argentine Government would use the revenue to pay down their National debt and the world soybean market is tight and going to be for some time because South America cant makeup what the US lost this year.

[UdintBuildThat]

I notice Claypool Indiana has 6 trainloads waiting to come in and dump. :-/

[Anonymous of Indy]

UdintBuildThat wrote:

I notice Claypool Indiana has 6 trainloads waiting to come in and dump.:-/

soybeans.

[Anonymous of Indy]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>soybeans.

only reason I say Soybeans is because Louis Dreyfus has and built a Soybean Processing and Biodiesel Plant their, and the Ethanol Plants in Indiana are shuting down because corn got to expensive.

[Dane T]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>Presidential vacations: How does Obama compare? and this was last year
There has been criticism of the president's vacation at this time. But how does the number of vacation days the president has spent compare to his predecessors? CBS Radio's Mark Knoller has kept track of presidential vacations for years and supplied the data.
So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton took the least time off -- 28 days.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-2009380...

Obama MUST maintain a rigorous schedule if he is to foster enough hate and division in the populace for the Nation to be demoralized enough to surrender and submit to the Progressives Orwellian nightmare. This is the closest the Marxist Collectivists have come to completely transforming America into a Failed State. He mustn't take his eye off the prize.

[Anonymous of Indy]

Dane T wrote:

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Obama MUST maintain a rigorous schedule if he is to foster enough hate and division in the populace for the Nation to be demoralized enough to surrender and submit to the Progressives Orwellian nightmare. This is the closest the Marxist Collectivists have come to completely transforming America into a Failed State. He mustn't take his eye off the prize.

that sounds just like the progressive Republican Party in 1908 with 16th amendment.

[UdintBuildThat]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>only reason I say Soybeans is because Louis Dreyfus has and built a Soybean Processing and Biodiesel Plant their, and the Ethanol Plants in Indiana are shuting down because corn got to expensive.

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6 trainloads of beans lined for Claypool LD.*
GPRE (cargil) still receiving corn at Bluffton IN to make ethanol.
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Did you see farm journal report that we're in worse shape now,(supplies on hand) drought wise than we were in 88, and all things considered, the price of beans should really be closer to $55 a bushel?

[Anonymous of Indy]

UdintBuildThat wrote:

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6 trainloads of beans lined for Claypool LD.*
GPRE (cargil) still receiving corn at Bluffton IN to make ethanol.
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Did you see farm journal report that we're in worse shape now,(supplies on hand) drought wise than we were in 88, and all things considered, the price of beans should really be closer to $55 a bushel?

I believe that, because US government has been trying to calm global fears that the US will adequate supplies to meet global demand but I dont think the crops are going to be there, I havent heard anybody say what Ohio is looking like, I know northern Indiana is setting the best.

[UdintBuildThat]

I really don't care what happens as far as yield goes. I hope it actually gets worse so the price is driven up hard in November because that's when my insurance price will be set.
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As it stands now, the income insurance policy I have is guaranteeing $1,100 an acre with the price where its at now. Hope it goes another 2 or 3 dollars higher if not 5 or 6.¦-]