31 charter schools risk closure in 2011 | The Columbus Dispatch

It is improbable, but not impossible: At the same time that 31 Ohio charter schools could be ordered to close, another 41 could be gearing up to open. Full Story
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Cartman

Marysville, OH

#1 Jun 28, 2010
A primary justification for charter schools was to help the poor students in urban districts escape inadequate public schools. Instead they created a system where a few greedy individuals can set up fake institutions of learning, swindle those they claim to help, deprive kids of any chance to learn and walk off with pockets full of money. What could be wrong with continuing this process when it has been a proven failure?
SomeoneWhoKnowsB etter

Canal Winchester, OH

#2 Jun 28, 2010
"Charter schools are taxpayer-funded public schools, but most are privately run."

That's what happens when you outsource. Frankly, I'm surprised that there are any charter schools left with the quality of education that they provide. Heck, you might as well home school your kids or send them to one of those crazy bible thumping schools. The quality is just as poor.
Ellyjays

Chillicothe, OH

#3 Jun 28, 2010
"a system where a few greedy individuals can set up fake institutions of learning, swindle those they claim to help, deprive kids of any chance to learn..."

Sounds like public schools and the teachers unions to me. The unions have swindled our kids. I think if failing charters are forced to close, then failing traditional schools should be forced to close too. And failing teachers should be fired.
one4me

Columbus, OH

#4 Jun 28, 2010
You would be in trouble to if you had Obama,Teddy and the teachers union trying to put out of busness.
Not Accountable To Voters

Richton Park, IL

#5 Jun 28, 2010
I actually hope that ALL CHARTER SCHOOLS CLOSE! Yes, they are public, but charter schools are a prime example of what is WRONG with education. Folks, charter schools are not accountable to voters. Truth be told, charter schools are formed by groups of people that want to use public money for their own ends, with no accountability beyond minimal state regulations. They don't have an elected school board or a board appointed by an elected official. Until the voters decide their fate, they should be closed.

Additionally, opposition to charter schools doesn't mean that people should race for vouchers either. There is no guarantee that the value of the voucher will correspond with the price of private school tuition. Moreover, what happens if a parent decides to use a voucher to send their child to a school that is of poor quality or a school that teaches things that are completely out of bounds like hate or incest? Should the public be expected to fund that kind of education?
April

Reynoldsburg, OH

#6 Jun 28, 2010
Seems to me it was just yesterday some/a Cleveland charter school(s) were trying to get use of public school buildings. Sounds like a bunch of shady-goings-on to me.
Libcrusher101

Powell, OH

#7 Jun 28, 2010
Cartman wrote:
A primary justification for charter schools was to help the poor students in urban districts escape inadequate public schools. Instead they created a system where a few greedy individuals can set up fake institutions of learning, swindle those they claim to help, deprive kids of any chance to learn and walk off with pockets full of money. What could be wrong with continuing this process when it has been a proven failure?
Sounds alot like the DNC....

Since: Jun 10

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Jun 28, 2010
Charter schools: the Republican plan to destroy public education in this country by "starving the beast." We now have two half-systems of public education, neither of which can work well under the circumstances the GOP developed for it during their Reign Of Error in Ohio and many other states. One system gets its money diverted to the other system, with the latter essentially being a payoff to GOP cronies. Charter school operators donate to the GOP who then shovel public tax dollars to their businesses.

Definitely one of the more profitable divisions of the Republican Criminal Enterprise.
DMR

Knoxville, TN

#10 Jun 28, 2010
There is no empirical data that overall indicates that over the long term charter schools provide any benefit over public schools. The track record of charter school, over the last ten years, in Franklin County alone is very poor. Many have had some very questionable financial practices where a few people benefited greatly at taxpayer expense. There have been additional problems with the oversight management companies that again appear to benefit a few people, and not the students. At both the national and the local level, in a very large number of cases, the results from the charter schools, long term, are poor.

The blame game for the public schools is a pathetic joke, by lazy parents or parents with a political agenda, or some combination of the two. One of the biggest problems in K-12 public schools is the parents are NOT involved in their child's education. They make no effort to communicate with the child's teacher, or come for parent-teacher meetings,(even when asked) they make no effort to academically support their child, doing such things as making sure the students homework is done and helping with class projects.

You also have parents with a political or religious agenda trying to force their view, forgetting the PUBLIC schools are secular, and do their best to operate outside the influences of various political agenda. Issues such as creationism are the domain of religion, and should be taught by, not the schools, but the churches. Not all religions embrace the same ideas on creationism, and cloaking it as intelligent design does not change it. It would be near impossible to find a version of the story of creation that all churches would accept. Let the churches do what they do best, teach religion. If parents want religion in the K-12 classroom, they need to put their child in a private school.

The constant attacks on the teachers union are a joke. The teachers unions are not all powerful as many parents like to claim. The teachers union blame is simply an easy target for uninvolved parents, who know little or nothing of the education process.

The key to quality K-12 education is parental involvement. Involvement with their children as students. Their involvement in the classroom. Their involvement in the educational process. Many of the parents that scream the loudest seldom if ever attend a PTA meeting, attend parent-teacher meetings. or help at the school. If these parents want to change how schools operate, they need to run for school board.

I am a product of Columbus Public Schools (Northland High School, 1971). I have multiple graduate degrees, and work in a professional field (not K-12 education). The biggest difference between what was done then and now is today parents have little involvement in the education process, and these same parent want to blame everyone but themselves.

“Fire in my Bones and”

Since: Apr 10

The sweet taste of Kerosene

#11 Jun 28, 2010
I am a proud parent of a child who goes to a charter school. Our local "Public" school is Weinland park. Please actually read this info to see why my daughters go to Columbus Prep. Academy.
I have pulled this from CPS website.

On the 2009 OAT, 26% of Weinland Park Elementary School Grade 3 students met or exceeded standards in Math. This is lower than the Columbus City School District average of 66%, and lower than the Ohio state average of 81%.
(*26% that is HORRIBLE! Do you REALLY expect me to accept this sub-standard education for my child?)

On the 2009 OAT, 21% of Weinland Park Elementary School Grade 3 students met or exceeded standards in Reading. This is lower than the Columbus City School District average of 60%, and lower than the Ohio state average of 77%.
(*Once again REALLY??? I should just settle for this?)

On the 2009 OAT, 14% of Weinland Park Elementary School Grade 5 students met or exceeded standards in Science. This is lower than the Columbus City School District average of 41%, and lower than the Ohio state average of 71%.

On the 2009 OAT, 14% of Weinland Park Elementary School Grade 5 students met or exceeded standards in Social Studies. This is lower than the Columbus City School District average of 41%, and lower than the Ohio state average of 62%.
(*14% that in its self should be enough said.)

WHY because I am lower income, and can't live in Dublin or New Albany, should my child get such a sub-standard education? If Columbus Public can't teach my children I will find someone who can. Not ALL charter schools are crooks. Research Mosaica Education, the group that runs my daughters school. She tested at 81% and Higher on her Iowa Basic Skill Test last year (1st grade) and that is Nationally not just Locally. Her school is amazing, Her teachers are amazing, and her little sister is beyond excited to go to Kindergarten this year. Weinland Park Elem. is listed as one of the top 20 worst schools in the state, and I will be damned if she is going to be another statistic. The teachers there speak ebonics, the principal seems to care less about the the whole situation, there is a park out side where 2 shootings have happened in the last 8 months......NO THANKS CPS. My SCHOOL, MY CHOICE. My income should NOT designate my childs education. Once again not all charter schools are doing poorly, our just opened another branch in New Albany, called Cornerstone Academy. They bus from everywhere in Franklin County, and are a lifesaver. I KNOW my children will succeed.
Ellyjays

Chillicothe, OH

#12 Jun 28, 2010
"One of the biggest problems in K-12 public schools is the parents are NOT involved in their child's education."
This is true, but the public schools only want the parents involved to a point.; The standard in public schools is mediocrity, and if a parent wants their child to rise above that standard, they're seen as a troublemaker or as a pushy parent. Parents should have the right to pull their kids out of that and place them in a school that THEY decide is best for their child.
JPA8

Columbus, OH

#13 Jun 28, 2010
As long as parents and children (the students) do not see the immediate need in this country to become personally intellectually superior, in a global competition for top dog, we will have many schools that acquiese to the lackadaisical and mediocre. It does not matter if the school is public or privately operated as long as either receives public money, the result is the same.
Ellyjays

Chillicothe, OH

#14 Jun 28, 2010
"Charter schools: the Republican plan to destroy public education in this country by "starving the beast." "

Teachers unions: The Democrat plan to destroy public education in this country by "starving the beast."

I'll opt for innovation and free markets in education any day, over a government-run monopoly.
Sam

Pickerington, OH

#15 Jun 28, 2010
The key to quality K-12 education is parental involvement.

Amen! You are absolutely right. Everyone's solution to the education problem is to throw money at it, but funding is not the main problem. Until the parents are involved and active in their child's education, the problem is not going to improve.

“Fire in my Bones and”

Since: Apr 10

The sweet taste of Kerosene

#16 Jun 28, 2010
DMR wrote:
There is no empirical data that overall indicates that over the long term charter schools provide any benefit over public schools. The track record of charter school, over the last ten years, in Franklin County alone is very poor. Many have had some very questionable financial practices where a few people benefited greatly at taxpayer expense. There have been additional problems with the oversight management companies that again appear to benefit a few people, and not the students. At both the national and the local level, in a very large number of cases, the results from the charter schools, long term, are poor.
The blame game for the public schools is a pathetic joke, by lazy parents or parents with a political agenda, or some combination of the two. One of the biggest problems in K-12 public schools is the parents are NOT involved in their child's education. They make no effort to communicate with the child's teacher, or come for parent-teacher meetings,(even when asked) they make no effort to academically support their child, doing such things as making sure the students homework is done and helping with class projects.
You also have parents with a political or religious agenda trying to force their view, forgetting the PUBLIC schools are secular, and do their best to operate outside the influences of various political agenda. Issues such as creationism are the domain of religion, and should be taught by, not the schools, but the churches. Not all religions embrace the same ideas on creationism, and cloaking it as intelligent design does not change it. It would be near impossible to find a version of the story of creation that all churches would accept. Let the churches do what they do best, teach religion. If parents want religion in the K-12 classroom, they need to put their child in a private school.
The constant attacks on the teachers union are a joke. The teachers unions are not all powerful as many parents like to claim. The teachers union blame is simply an easy target for uninvolved parents, who know little or nothing of the education process.
The key to quality K-12 education is parental involvement. Involvement with their children as students. Their involvement in the classroom. Their involvement in the educational process. Many of the parents that scream the loudest seldom if ever attend a PTA meeting, attend parent-teacher meetings. or help at the school. If these parents want to change how schools operate, they need to run for school board.
I am a product of Columbus Public Schools (Northland High School, 1971). I have multiple graduate degrees, and work in a professional field (not K-12 education). The biggest difference between what was done then and now is today parents have little involvement in the education process, and these same parent want to blame everyone but themselves.
In response to this. I am a parent who works, as does my husband. We sit down and do homework everynight, at least an hours worth. Our 3 year old son can write his name already, our 5 year old (who enters kindergarten this august) can read simple senstences. Our soon to be 2nd grader is at the top of her class. BUT as you can see from my stats above, that if the cirriculum is NOT being taught, what chance does she have? I simply can't have her go to school for 7 hours a day just to play and then basically home school her and constantly be in teacher mode. It not fair to her or to me to have to basically be in school 24 hours a day. She deserves so much better than her CPS chool can offer. Because I live where the majority of Parents and Teachers simply don't care, is unacceptable. CPS in the 60-70's compaired to CPS 2000's simply doesn't work. Different times.

“Fire in my Bones and”

Since: Apr 10

The sweet taste of Kerosene

#17 Jun 28, 2010
*sentences
Been_there

New York, NY

#18 Jun 28, 2010
Ashes82 wrote:
...WHY because I am lower income, and can't live in Dublin or New Albany, should my child get such a sub-standard education? If Columbus Public can't teach my children I will find someone who can. Not ALL charter schools are crooks. Research Mosaica Education, the group that runs my daughters school. She tested at 81% and Higher on her Iowa Basic Skill Test last year (1st grade) and that is Nationally not just Locally. Her school is amazing, Her teachers are amazing, and her little sister is beyond excited to go to Kindergarten this year. Weinland Park Elem. is listed as one of the top 20 worst schools in the state, and I will be damned if she is going to be another statistic. The teachers there speak ebonics, the principal seems to care less about the the whole situation, there is a park out side where 2 shootings have happened in the last 8 months......NO THANKS CPS. My SCHOOL, MY CHOICE. My income should NOT designate my childs education. Once again not all charter schools are doing poorly, our just opened another branch in New Albany, called Cornerstone Academy. They bus from everywhere in Franklin County, and are a lifesaver. I KNOW my children will succeed.
I find it telling that Mosaica Education - a for profit group - has TWO schools on the potential closure list. As for their "new" school in New Albany - Cornerstone Academy...it used to be downtown, originally started independently. 3 years ago they closed abruptly due to low enrollment. The director at the time, Thomas Gay, actually professed to wanting to hire attractive african-american males to walk around in front of Columbus Public Schools to talk to single females as they picked up their kids, hoping they'd sign their kids up. Mosaica kept recruiting new families into the summer, closing with little notice and leaving dozens of families in the lurch.

They then proceeded to browbeat their teachers into quitting to avoid paying unemployment to them. Real classy act.

“Fire in my Bones and”

Since: Apr 10

The sweet taste of Kerosene

#20 Jun 28, 2010
Can you post back up stating all of that? What about Columbus Prep. Academy where my children actually go? I haven't researched the new mosaica school, I have however researched my childrens school.

On the 2009 OAT, 73% of Columbus Preparatory Academy Grade 3 students met or exceeded standards in Reading. This is higher than the Ohio state average of 72%.

On the 2009 OAT, 77% of Columbus Preparatory Academy Grade 4 students met or exceeded standards in Math. This is higher than the Ohio state average of 75%.

On the 2009 OAT, 87% of Columbus Preparatory Academy Grade 4 students met or exceeded standards in Writing. This is Higher than the Ohio state average of 81%.

That says something to me. My children actually matter to them. We are highly involved there, go to PTA meetings monthly, they have mandatory parent involvement. They have a Paragon Night Monthly, for all of the children to show us what they have been doing over the last few weeks. I absolutely ADORE my school. They ONLY reason CPS schools aren't on those lists is because they are CPS schools.

I like how the issue about the horrible education keeps getting skirted around though, that should matter right? I should just work 8 hours a day come home make dinner, and keep my daughter up until 10 pm homeschooling her after school, right?

“Fire in my Bones and”

Since: Apr 10

The sweet taste of Kerosene

#21 Jun 28, 2010
Another at-risk school, Columbus Preparatory Academy, opened in 2004. It won't be on a closing list again, said Principal Chad Carr, because it has rapidly improved.

"Great things have happened here," he said. "We've become better teachers and are creating better learners."

(Mr.Carr also recieved an educator of the year award last year)
i did it

Columbus, OH

#22 Jun 28, 2010
too bad the State isn't as concerned with Columbus City Schools as they are the charters. Someone should be shutting down CCS.

It's sad that I live in Clintonville and can't even send my children to CCS because the schools are deplorable. So, I shell out over 20K to send them to the Catholic Schools, and it's so costly becayuse we aren't Catholic.

I wish Clintonville had their own district.

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