Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

There are 59671 comments on the WGRZ Buffalo story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY. In it, WGRZ Buffalo reports that:

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York.

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ANONYMOUS

Buffalo, NY

#57110 Sep 9, 2013
Close Em All wrote:
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Every polish parish represents what's wrong with the DOB. Close em all!! Starting with Dunkirk and finishing with Buffalo! Their filled with trash parishioners that support criminal priests for their own selfish needs. Dunkirk is a perfect example of what it means to be a priest whore and she knows it. Just look at her daughter.
There we go getting personal. When people are too dumb or too ignorant to discuss the issues. That's how the DOB wins. Devide and conquer then chop them down one by one. By all means be proud of your stupid selves.
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#57111 Sep 9, 2013
Close Em All wrote:
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Every polish parish represents what's wrong with the DOB. Close em all!! Starting with Dunkirk and finishing with Buffalo! Their filled with trash parishioners that support criminal priests for their own selfish needs. Dunkirk is a perfect example of what it means to be a priest whore and she knows it. Just look at her daughter.
I hope to God you're not wearing a collar -- unless you're at the other end of a leash.
Brain Drain

Buffalo, NY

#57112 Sep 9, 2013
Native son wrote:
Wasn't St. Barbara's always a thorn in the side of the DOB? If my memory serves me, they always heard a different drum beat. The kids in school were taught in Polish even though they were born here. They were also very unfriendly to other cultures. I don't think anyone lost much sleep over that parish.
Who brain washed you? Why shouldn't people be taught different languages even if they are born here? What was so great about the DOB's drum? Look at the results. Do you hear anybody complain that the Jews teach Hebrew or the Greeks , Greek ? Who told you that being an Irish Catholic is better than being a Polish Catholic? Who told you that?
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57113 Sep 9, 2013
Brain Drain wrote:
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Who brain washed you? Why shouldn't people be taught different languages even if they are born here? What was so great about the DOB's drum? Look at the results. Do you hear anybody complain that the Jews teach Hebrew or the Greeks , Greek ? Who told you that being an Irish Catholic is better than being a Polish Catholic? Who told you that?
Bravo!
Native son

Buffalo, NY

#57114 Sep 9, 2013
Brain Drain wrote:
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Who brain washed you? Why shouldn't people be taught different languages even if they are born here? What was so great about the DOB's drum? Look at the results. Do you hear anybody complain that the Jews teach Hebrew or the Greeks , Greek ? Who told you that being an Irish Catholic is better than being a Polish Catholic? Who told you that?
me mudder and me da. Jeez, a little sensitive? Maybe because you received a sub-standard education and you know it.
Native son

Buffalo, NY

#57115 Sep 9, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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I hope to God you're not wearing a collar -- unless you're at the other end of a leash.
I want to be clear. I am a great fan of you. They really were very odd. I have nothing against any nationality but they refused to assimilate. They tried to make us feel bad.
anon

Buffalo, NY

#57116 Sep 9, 2013
Native son wrote:
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I want to be clear. I am a great fan of you. They really were very odd. I have nothing against any nationality but they refused to assimilate. They tried to make us feel bad.
so you tear down their church? That'll really show them!
MsgrBadski

West Milford, NJ

#57117 Sep 9, 2013
Irish Catholics better than Polish Catholics? That's the attitude which brought so much spiritual damage to the church in Buffalo and elsewhere. The cathedral in Lancaster is just one witness to problems that arose out of bigotry several decades ago. Ruthenians and Ukrainians didn't fare much better (egads,married priests). It is appalling to see these ideas re-emerging in the 21st century. Guys,grow up.
anon

Buffalo, NY

#57118 Sep 9, 2013
Native son wrote:
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I want to be clear. I am a great fan of you. They really were very odd. I have nothing against any nationality but they refused to assimilate. They tried to make us feel bad.
So, let's get this straight: Then the Journey in Faith and Grace was not about closing some churches and keeping others open based on studies to determine what made most sense in a financial and population standpoint but rather in a cookie-cutter fashion leaving those churches open where the people would be most likely to conform making robots out of all DOB catholics, noone different, nothing standing out, all people the same, all structures the same, pack 'em in....roll 'em out, 25 minutes start to finish, parking lot emptied. Hmmmmmmm. That's what I thought. BTW, WHO paid for the demolition of St. Barbara's? No, I mean, WHO really paid for it? Same person who WAS going to be made to pay for St. Ann's before it was 'saved'(another crock btw). Money talks, even if it isn't YOUR money.
answer

Buffalo, NY

#57119 Sep 9, 2013
anon wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't that Fr. Richard Augustyn's parish?
Remember St. Bonaventure in West Seneca. Twelve hundred parishioners, no debt, and many parish activities. They had a pastor and nun(who ran the parish) that wanted the Parish closed and encouraged the DOB to close it. Parishioners were sent to St. William's where there are now less than a thousand parishioners combined. The only meeting space on the property is not handicap accessible and the most promoted activity is going to the casino.
No Brainer

Buffalo, NY

#57120 Sep 9, 2013
Native son wrote:
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I want to be clear. I am a great fan of you. They really were very odd. I have nothing against any nationality but they refused to assimilate. They tried to make us feel bad.
Does anyone out there understand that assimilation is against Church teaching? Does anyone out there understand anything about Church teaching?
MsgrBadski

West Milford, NJ

#57121 Sep 10, 2013
Somethings to think about: the number of priests in the USA is going down at a rate of about 405 annually; the number of nuns are declining at a rate of about 1150 per year, and about 185 parishes close every year.
Anonymous

United States

#57122 Sep 10, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
Somethings to think about: the number of priests in the USA is going down at a rate of about 405 annually; the number of nuns are declining at a rate of about 1150 per year, and about 185 parishes close every year.
If it was not because of immigrant vocations and faithful
those statistics would be even worse!
anonymous

Grand Island, NY

#57124 Sep 10, 2013
Keep in mind that parishes like St. Adalbert and St. Ann were firmly prolife for their entire history, and refused to cooperate in any way with any newspaper or broadcaster that supported legalized abortion.
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57125 Sep 10, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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If it was not because of immigrant vocations and faithful
those statistics would be even worse!
How many seminarians at Orchard Lake in Michigan? How many immigrant vocations? U.S. vocations?
Anonymous

United States

#57126 Sep 10, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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How many seminarians at Orchard Lake in Michigan? How many immigrant vocations? U.S. vocations?
In 2013 there were 511 ordained priests in the U.S., up 12% in 2005. In 2011, about one-third of priests ordained in U.S. Catholic dioceses were foreign-born, up almost 50% from 1999, according to data Georgetown University compiled for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. The number of foreign-born seminarians has varied between 20% to 30% over the past decade. For ex., of the 293 priests serving at metro Detroit parishes, more than 50 are foreign-born, from countries such as India, Vietnam, Mexico, the Philippines, Cameroon, Poland, and Ireland.
Anon

Buffalo, NY

#57127 Sep 10, 2013
True
MsgrBadski

West Milford, NJ

#57128 Sep 10, 2013
How many DOB priests are foreign born? We can expect the number to go up. right now CTK has four students from Africa and two from Poland.
Sr Regina fan

Buffalo, NY

#57129 Sep 10, 2013
If ever there was a nun I liked, it was Sr. Regina. She has done so much to destroy and shut down the church in Buffalo and for that, I am eternally grateful. We need more people like her who are willing to help stop Catholicism. Three cheers for Sr. Regina.
anon

Buffalo, NY

#57130 Sep 10, 2013
Sr Regina fan wrote:
If ever there was a nun I liked, it was Sr. Regina. She has done so much to destroy and shut down the church in Buffalo and for that, I am eternally grateful. We need more people like her who are willing to help stop Catholicism. Three cheers for Sr. Regina.
I agree with almost everything you say regarding Sr. Regina Murphy. Several years ago, I had never laid eyes on her until the benefactress invited Fr. David (B) and myself to join her for dinner (dutch treat on my part, as always). I met them at Curly's in Lackawanna and shortly after being seated, Sr. Regina Murphy was seated at the table next to ours (in a nearly empty restaurant), facing me. Fr. David told me who she was and he said that she hated him. I didn't know anything about her at the time only what Fr. said.
Since that time, I have come to hear a lot of things about her. Of the things I have heard regarding her, the ones that have left a lasting impression on me are that in court, she accused me of one lie after another in order to discredit me so that I cannot work for the diocese. She accused me of being anti Catholic, anti gay, pro abortion, of having had an abortion (even came up with a man who was paid to lie and say I had an affair with him), anti nun and so on and so forth. She was unsuccessful in her endeavors but the damage has been done. There is NOW a nun I don't like and it has nothing to do with the habit she wears.
The point of this is to say that throughout this entire blog history, especially the last three and a half years, the one thing that I am certain of is that Fr. David was right, Sr. Regina does not like him. If the JF&G was, indeed, her doing, why were so many of the Polish churches and Polish communities targeted? Hardly any were left unscathed. I have maintained these last three years that the Polish churches were targeted because Fr. David had been named to become the Bishop of Buffalo and one jealous Msgr and one hate-filled nun wanted to destroy what they thought was near and dear to his heart if they weren't successful in destroying his character. I would bet the farm on that.

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