Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish...

Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

There are 59976 comments on the WGRZ Buffalo story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY. In it, WGRZ Buffalo reports that:

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York.

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Dunkirk Disconnection

Buffalo, NY

#53832 Feb 3, 2013
Why do you hide behind a keyboard like a coward for years and talk about people? How do the personal lives of priests and other people actually affect you? You have a sad, sad disease and I hope the people on this board pray for you since St Peter won't be answering the door when you get there....
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#53833 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Disconnection wrote:
Why do you hide behind a keyboard like a coward for years and talk about people? How do the personal lives of priests and other people actually affect you? You have a sad, sad disease and I hope the people on this board pray for you since St Peter won't be answering the door when you get there....
Wow, this is mind-boggling. Dunkirk Connection HIDES behind a keyboard,right? You're judging me while you HIDE behind made up names, all cowards not afraid to lash out at people but too scared to validate your opinions by using your real names. If it wasn't so pathetic, your comment would actually be hilarious. And you in particular, oh how pompous you are to assume the role of God in judging me. God has to take a back seat to you because you've already done His work for Him. You are nothing short of amazing.
anon

Buffalo, NY

#53834 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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I wasn't there physically or monetarily but I still considered myself a parishioner. Doesn't everybody make up their own rules these days? Heck, Jedrabeauty made my husband a parishioner at St. Hyacinth's and he's not even Catholic. I told Jedra that too. But there was hubby's name on the envelopes and he was counted as a parishioner. So you see, anything goes.
If you are not there physically or monetarily for over twenty years—you are not a parishioner.
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#53835 Feb 3, 2013
anon wrote:
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If you are not there physically or monetarily for over twenty years—you are not a parishioner.
Sez who? People who haven't stepped foot in their church or tossed an envelope in the basket in more than half a century end up getting a Catholic funeral at their home church for maybe $100 more than the going rate. How is this fair to someone who has supported their parish faithfully all their lives? Some pastors will do this, others will not.What does Canon law say about the rights of a fallen away baptized Catholic to have a Mass of Christian Burial when he dies? I'm just pointing out there's no consistency in the modern church. Anything goes. On the other hand, if you didn't have the money for the church services, would it matter that you supported the church all your life? Would you get a Catholic service in church if you couldn't pay for it? Just wondering. The church of 2013 bears little resemblance to the church I knew in the 1950s when the Felicians made us diligently study our Baltimore catechism.
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#53836 Feb 3, 2013
Happy Super Bowl Sunday.
anonymous

Naples, FL

#53837 Feb 3, 2013
Msgr Goodski wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, you can expect more church closings probably towards the end of the year. One factor is the poor quality of priests in the DOB, and low tenor of the spiritual life. Some places are experiencing a spiritual revival. Not the DOB.
This is not surprising, given where many of the current priests were prepared.
Anonymousl

United States

#53838 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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Sez who? People who haven't stepped foot in their church or tossed an envelope in the basket in more than half a century end up getting a Catholic funeral at their home church for maybe $100 more than the going rate. How is this fair to someone who has supported their parish faithfully all their lives? Some pastors will do this, others will not.What does Canon law say about the rights of a fallen away baptized Catholic to have a Mass of Christian Burial when he dies? I'm just pointing out there's no consistency in the modern church. Anything goes. On the other hand, if you didn't have the money for the church services, would it matter that you supported the church all your life? Would you get a Catholic service in church if you couldn't pay for it? Just wondering. The church of 2013 bears little resemblance to the church I knew in the 1950s when the Felicians made us diligently study our Baltimore catechism.
All Sacraments are free of charge.
A priest is required to offer a mass even without a stipend (but the organist has the right to be paid).
A Catholic Funeral may be denied in very limited circumstances. I only know of a reputed mafioso somewhere in Canada.(Are all mafiosi Italian?)
People who never went to church may have a church funeral so that those
who go to church can pray for them and give them one last chance...
Polish National

United States

#53839 Feb 3, 2013
anon wrote:
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If you are not there physically or monetarily for over twenty years—you are not a parishioner.
Desagree. Envelopes or not, a Catholic is always a parishioners of the teritorial church where he lives. At the same time he can be a parishioner of a language or ethnic parish.
Anon

Danielson, CT

#53840 Feb 3, 2013
Polish National wrote:
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Desagree. Envelopes or not, a Catholic is always a parishioners of the teritorial church where he lives. At the same time he can be a parishioner of a language or ethnic parish.
Then why do you have to JOIN a parish? I had to join.
Mary of Magdela

Salamanca, NY

#53841 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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Wow, this is mind-boggling. Dunkirk Connection HIDES behind a keyboard,right? You're judging me while you HIDE behind made up names, all cowards not afraid to lash out at people but too scared to validate your opinions by using your real names. If it wasn't so pathetic, your comment would actually be hilarious. And you in particular, oh how pompous you are to assume the role of God in judging me. God has to take a back seat to you because you've already done His work for Him. You are nothing short of amazing.
There are some real nuts here as I assume you know. We try to ignore and carry on.
About Dunkirk Connection

Buffalo, NY

#53842 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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Sez who? People who haven't stepped foot in their church or tossed an envelope in the basket in more than half a century end up getting a Catholic funeral at their home church for maybe $100 more than the going rate. How is this fair to someone who has supported their parish faithfully all their lives? Some pastors will do this, others will not.What does Canon law say about the rights of a fallen away baptized Catholic to have a Mass of Christian Burial when he dies? I'm just pointing out there's no consistency in the modern church. Anything goes. On the other hand, if you didn't have the money for the church services, would it matter that you supported the church all your life? Would you get a Catholic service in church if you couldn't pay for it? Just wondering. The church of 2013 bears little resemblance to the church I knew in the 1950s when the Felicians made us diligently study our Baltimore catechism.
If I were Dunkirk Connection, I would never write anything. As a rule of thumb, she avoids the question or point and instead gives some jibberish answer that more or less attempts to rationalize that some other point (which has no relation to the matter discussed) is a justification for the original point.

She lied and wanted to paint the picture she was a member of the parish for many more years than she was and that is the bottom line. Any way you slice it or spread it, the point is you lied and were caught.

Then there is the matter early on of people on this blog speaking out against Krysa. At that point, Krysa had not upset you. What did you do? You defended Krysa and told everyone who wrote how what was being said wasn't true and minimized their every point about him. Why? Because you didn't seem to care or even give others the benefit of the doubt on what they were saying. You weren't concerned about them, but remain only concerned about your own selfish and opinionated way of seeing things. Yes, later you started saying the same things as everyone else HAD been saying, but that was because now you were upset and wanted everyone to join in on what you were saying.

Then, we have Chalupka. Others had been saying about his many questionable practices. You insulted those people, called them nasty names and discounted them on every point. Then, when you found out some things about him, it was O K to criticize him. Why? Because now YOU found out about him and were appalled at something he had done.

Mary Ann, I don't know what your educational background might be, but all you will ever do in journalism is write for those second rate papers that allow you to publicize your opinionated perspectives on life that would appall most people who have any sort of intelligence.

The problem is you still want your little girl Church that wasn't real in the 1950's and certainly is not real in 2013. You are a little girl who has grown older, but certainly has never grown or developed emotionally or psychologically. You now are seen by most as a big bully, not unlike the childhood bullies on the playground. Unfortunately, your playground is now an adult world.

I am glad you have attached yourself to the unholy and false Catholic Church. You exemplify what a true Catholic is all about and that certainly has nothing to do with mirroring or following Christ. I am happy that you are part of the Catholic landscape because you are truly one of the people who are helping to destroy and slowly erase them from our lives.

Keep talking in circles and BSing people, it's not working, but boy is it entertaining.

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About Dunkirk Connection

Buffalo, NY

#53843 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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Wow, this is mind-boggling. Dunkirk Connection HIDES behind a keyboard,right? You're judging me while you HIDE behind made up names, all cowards not afraid to lash out at people but too scared to validate your opinions by using your real names. If it wasn't so pathetic, your comment would actually be hilarious. And you in particular, oh how pompous you are to assume the role of God in judging me. God has to take a back seat to you because you've already done His work for Him. You are nothing short of amazing.
Mary Ann, Dunkirk Connection is not your name. It is a moniker which you hide behind. You can spout off by using that name and pretending to be straightforward, but you avoid using your real name for a reason. I know that and you know that!

This is a blog, it would not be safe for people to use their own name. That is why people have screen names, monikers or simply fill in the word anonymous. That's a safety precaution to avoid nutty people from perhaps bothering or even harming people because of their comments. The fact that you do not use your name is wise, but don't pretend to be doing more than others, when you are not.

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anon

Buffalo, NY

#53844 Feb 3, 2013
Mary of Magdela wrote:
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There are some real nuts here as I assume you know. We try to ignore and carry on.
Ya.....she is no different than you......you use Mary Magdela and we all know who you are too!
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#53845 Feb 3, 2013
Mary of Magdela wrote:
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There are some real nuts here as I assume you know. We try to ignore and carry on.
Pot calls kettle black.
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#53846 Feb 3, 2013
About Dunkirk Connection wrote:
<quoted text>
If I were Dunkirk Connection, I would never write anything. As a rule of thumb, she avoids the question or point and instead gives some jibberish answer that more or less attempts to rationalize that some other point (which has no relation to the matter discussed) is a justification for the original point.
She lied and wanted to paint the picture she was a member of the parish for many more years than she was and that is the bottom line. Any way you slice it or spread it, the point is you lied and were caught.
Then there is the matter early on of people on this blog speaking out against Krysa. At that point, Krysa had not upset you. What did you do? You defended Krysa and told everyone who wrote how what was being said wasn't true and minimized their every point about him. Why? Because you didn't seem to care or even give others the benefit of the doubt on what they were saying. You weren't concerned about them, but remain only concerned about your own selfish and opinionated way of seeing things. Yes, later you started saying the same things as everyone else HAD been saying, but that was because now you were upset and wanted everyone to join in on what you were saying.
Then, we have Chalupka. Others had been saying about his many questionable practices. You insulted those people, called them nasty names and discounted them on every point. Then, when you found out some things about him, it was O K to criticize him. Why? Because now YOU found out about him and were appalled at something he had done.
Mary Ann, I don't know what your educational background might be, but all you will ever do in journalism is write for those second rate papers that allow you to publicize your opinionated perspectives on life that would appall most people who have any sort of intelligence.
The problem is you still want your little girl Church that wasn't real in the 1950's and certainly is not real in 2013. You are a little girl who has grown older, but certainly has never grown or developed emotionally or psychologically. You now are seen by most as a big bully, not unlike the childhood bullies on the playground. Unfortunately, your playground is now an adult world.
I am glad you have attached yourself to the unholy and false Catholic Church. You exemplify what a true Catholic is all about and that certainly has nothing to do with mirroring or following Christ. I am happy that you are part of the Catholic landscape because you are truly one of the people who are helping to destroy and slowly erase them from our lives.
Keep talking in circles and BSing people, it's not working, but boy is it entertaining.
Gee, you sound like you could be Jay Tokasz and if this is the case YOU should never write anything. You are bought and paid for by the diocese of Buffalo although you profusely deny that. You went out of your way to destroy Fr. Bialkowski's reputation and outdid yourself when you dragged the name and character of the late Fr. Moreno through the mud on the front page of the Buffalo News. You had your own selfish, greedy motives for doing that. Did you even once think of what you were doing to the Moreno family with your yellow journalism"? Hadn't they suffered enough by tragically losing their son and brother? Can you imagine how they felt reading your subjective degrading garbage - all from anonymous sources? Was it worth it? Of course the family can't even comment on this since they're in the process of suing the pants off of the diocese. And rightfully so.

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anon

Buffalo, NY

#53847 Feb 3, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Then why do you have to JOIN a parish? I had to join.
In reality you do not HAVE to join. Your pastors may interpret the law for you but they are not following the letter of the law. They don't break the rules but break the spirit of the rule and thereby breaking our spirits too. But if you want a reducttion in school tuition, you should join. A practicing Catholic does not mean he is obligated to have an envelope number.
anon

Buffalo, NY

#53848 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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Gee, you sound like you could be Jay Tokasz and if this is the case YOU should never write anything. You are bought and paid for by the diocese of Buffalo although you profusely deny that. You went out of your way to destroy Fr. Bialkowski's reputation and outdid yourself when you dragged the name and character of the late Fr. Moreno through the mud on the front page of the Buffalo News. You had your own selfish, greedy motives for doing that. Did you even once think of what you were doing to the Moreno family with your yellow journalism"? Hadn't they suffered enough by tragically losing their son and brother? Can you imagine how they felt reading your subjective degrading garbage - all from anonymous sources? Was it worth it? Of course the family can't even comment on this since they're in the process of suing the pants off of the diocese. And rightfully
so.
It is a well known fact that Mr. Tokasz only writes what the diocese and company approve. We have all seen it many times and it doesn't take a great brain to figure it out. Too bad for us.
Thanks

Buffalo, NY

#53849 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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Gee, you sound like you could be Jay Tokasz and if this is the case YOU should never write anything. You are bought and paid for by the diocese of Buffalo although you profusely deny that. You went out of your way to destroy Fr. Bialkowski's reputation and outdid yourself when you dragged the name and character of the late Fr. Moreno through the mud on the front page of the Buffalo News. You had your own selfish, greedy motives for doing that. Did you even once think of what you were doing to the Moreno family with your yellow journalism"? Hadn't they suffered enough by tragically losing their son and brother? Can you imagine how they felt reading your subjective degrading garbage - all from anonymous sources? Was it worth it? Of course the family can't even comment on this since they're in the process of suing the pants off of the diocese. And rightfully so.
Thanks for proving my point!

As usual, you avoid the statement that was made and respond with something that has nothing to do with what was said. You would be a joy to put on the witness stand as a witness for the other side. A good lawyer would tear your testimony to pieces.

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anon

Buffalo, NY

#53850 Feb 3, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
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What a crock! I have never harmed or maligned the child. She is just an innocent victim of circumstances. It's the parents who are pathetic and disgusting. P.S. At least I can spell! In the future. try not to use a word that's too difficult for you to handle! LOL!
Why is this child a victim? We are all grateful for the gift of life. On the other hand women are all victims today, maybe she will be able to get a settlement after she sues all the people on this blog.
Thanks

Buffalo, NY

#53851 Feb 3, 2013
anon wrote:
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In reality you do not HAVE to join. Your pastors may interpret the law for you but they are not following the letter of the law. They don't break the rules but break the spirit of the rule and thereby breaking our spirits too. But if you want a reducttion in school tuition, you should join. A practicing Catholic does not mean he is obligated to have an envelope number.
You are correct! All a practicing Catholic means is believing that you know more than Christ and living the opposite of how Jesus taught.

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