Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish...

Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

There are 62663 comments on the WGRZ Buffalo story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY. In it, WGRZ Buffalo reports that:

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York.

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A Grateful PNC

Buffalo, NY

#51041 Oct 18, 2012
Just a short story of how wonderful a man Fr. Moreno was:

I was 64 years old and was the Power of Attorney for my aunt who was in the hospital on death's door step. We belong to the Polish National Catholic Church in Lancaster and the doctors and nurses advised me that I should contact one of our priests to give my aunt her last rights. I made the phone call, and no one was there to answer. It was around 11:00 at night. I told the nurses that no one answered the telephone and asked what I should do. One nurse told me that she could help me out. About 1/2 hour later, a priest showed up to my aunt's room and introduced himself as Father Joe Moreno. He asked if my aunt was Catholic and I told him yes, but Polish National Catholic. He said that was fine. He proceeded to give my aunt her last rights, and then gave the both of us communion. He sat and talked with me for about 20 minutes until he asked to be excused and said that he'd he right back. He returned about 10 minutes later and had a large pepperoni pizza in hand. We ate the pizza and had a wonderful conversation.
My aunt passed away later that morning.
What a wonderful man! I will never forget him or what he did for us.
May Fr. Joe rest in peace.
anonymous

Bay Shore, NY

#51042 Oct 18, 2012
Billable Hours wrote:
How much is Terry Connors, the diocesan crimminal law consultant, getting paid to deal with the cops, the suicide note and the gun?
A lot. He is one of the most expensive lawyers anywhere. And don't forget tall the work he did with Cunningham and Mansell to cover up clergy sex abuse.
anonymous

Bay Shore, NY

#51043 Oct 18, 2012
Was Moreno officially or even unofficially a police/fire depatment chaplain?
anonymous

Bay Shore, NY

#51044 Oct 18, 2012
Ultimately, are Malone and LiPuma going to be at the funeral? Are the family's apparent wishes going to be honored?
Fire Kevin

Buffalo, NY

#51045 Oct 18, 2012
Again, Kevin doesn't grasp how to handle communications. I do know he has background, but does he have credentials? He has an art for actually making people more angry/upset because he says things that an average person just wouldn't believe. The Deacon is saying they pushed him too hard, his (Moreno's)family is upset at the Diocese, people who know him are saying how upset he was with the Diocese ---- what does the Communication director say: We don't know what could have caused it based on the other stress factors in his life. Kev????????? Go back to school and learn how to sell something to the public. That is not how to handle damage control in such a situation. When you say what you said, you actually lose credibility. Now, Slick Dick on the other hand, was doing fine until he started telling a couple fibs that the public refused to buy. Thus, he destroyed his credibility now and people will no longer trust him. Welcome to many years in your new assignment and being the town villain. After succeeding who he succeeded he could have actually have been the town hero. All gone in one trip to the Basilica.
anonymous

Bay Shore, NY

#51046 Oct 18, 2012
Homophobia wrote:
Outcome Buffalo, local gay online news source, cites Bishop Malone's anti gay efforts in Maine for fostering hate against gays.
This is unfortunately true. Anytime a preacher of any denomination defends the the tradtional Christian teaching on homosexuality. The Catechism of the Catholic church opposes all acts of hatred and discrimination against gays.
oh yeah

Lockport, NY

#51047 Oct 18, 2012
anonymous wrote:
Ultimately, are Malone and LiPuma going to be at the funeral? Are the family's apparent wishes going to be honored?
if tv cameras are there, so will they.
watch for the heartfelt interview.
anonymous

New York, NY

#51048 Oct 18, 2012
Fire Kevin wrote:
Again, Kevin doesn't grasp how to handle communications. I do know he has background, but does he have credentials? He has an art for actually making people more angry/upset because he says things that an average person just wouldn't believe. The Deacon is saying they pushed him too hard, his (Moreno's)family is upset at the Diocese, people who know him are saying how upset he was with the Diocese ---- what does the Communication director say: We don't know what could have caused it based on the other stress factors in his life. Kev????????? Go back to school and learn how to sell something to the public. That is not how to handle damage control in such a situation. When you say what you said, you actually lose credibility. Now, Slick Dick on the other hand, was doing fine until he started telling a couple fibs that the public refused to buy. Thus, he destroyed his credibility now and people will no longer trust him. Welcome to many years in your new assignment and being the town villain. After succeeding who he succeeded he could have actually have been the town hero. All gone in one trip to the Basilica.
I read months ago Kevin was leaving to take another position in the private sector.Why is he still here?
A Good Son

Buffalo, NY

#51049 Oct 18, 2012
anonymous wrote:
Ultimately, are Malone and LiPuma going to be at the funeral? Are the family's apparent wishes going to be honored?
Father Joseph Porpiglia convinced the family that they should allow Bishop Grosz to preside over the funeral. Fr. LiPuma suggested that perhaps Fr. Porpiglia could have a better foot in the door with the family. Like a devoted son, Fr. Porpiglia came through for the Diocese and shall have favor. He and Father Gullo will con-celebrate.
Salomea

North Tonawanda, NY

#51050 Oct 18, 2012
A Good Son wrote:
<quoted text>
Father Joseph Porpiglia convinced the family that they should allow Bishop Grosz to preside over the funeral. Fr. LiPuma suggested that perhaps Fr. Porpiglia could have a better foot in the door with the family. Like a devoted son, Fr. Porpiglia came through for the Diocese and shall have favor. He and Father Gullo will con-celebrate.
Yeah Fr. Gullo...a man of God. Little LiPuma should just keep his nose out of this as should all of the other undesirables; and I'm sure they all know who they are. Let this family pray and grieve. The presence of these undesirables would only be a reminder to the family of all that these "so called people of God in the chancery" have done to contribute to Fr. Morenos demise.

If I was a family member, I would escort off of the altar anyone that they do not want there.....and I'm sure that by now they know who they are.

Let's hope that Bishop Malone will finally see the need to investigate his "trusted employees?" and CLEAN HOUSE! Should have happened long time ago.

God Will Bless You Fr. Moreno.
Cimoc

Lancaster, NY

#51051 Oct 18, 2012
Watch out for the three Pinocchio's Malone ,LiPuma and Keenan as they try to save themselves from eternal damnation.
Salomea

North Tonawanda, NY

#51052 Oct 18, 2012
Cimoc wrote:
Watch out for the three Pinocchio's Malone ,LiPuma and Keenan as they try to save themselves from eternal damnation.
Yes, Yes, but let's not forget "THE" Regina. She is a force to be reckoned with. Whomever gave her such power should be excommunicated.How about it Bishop Malone???...can or WILL you change things here in our Diocese? Guess that remains to be seen.The HOUSE hasn't been cleaned in a long time.
Mary of Magdela

Tonawanda, NY

#51053 Oct 18, 2012
Good Grief! LOL!
Cimoc

Lancaster, NY

#51054 Oct 18, 2012
Fellow clergy. Please be leaders and not minions of the diocese of buffalo.
Anonymous

United States

#51055 Oct 18, 2012
Cimoc wrote:
Fellow clergy. Please be leaders and not minions of the diocese of buffalo.
Fr. Joe will tell who is honest and who is phoney. R.I.P.
Cimoc

Lancaster, NY

#51056 Oct 18, 2012
At the end of tomorrows service lets give Fr. Joe a standing ovation and a great round of applause for his dedicated service to the Buffalo community of which he so loved.It would be a fitting tribute to a Man of God who exemplified the qualities of Saints. God Bless you all.
Discouraged

Arcade, NY

#51057 Oct 19, 2012
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Some people on this Board are “in” the Catholic Church, but more or less outside the Catholic Faith. In today’s world, the media is practically the established religion. The media never looks at secular humanism, secular humanism is the lens through which they look at, and judge, everything else. The media hates the Catholic Faith, because it believes in fixed dogmas, rather than relativism. The Faith teaches that some things are absolutely true or good, regardless of what year it is, whether 1 percent, or 99 percent of people, are in agreement. People on the Board aren’t bad, they are influenced by the media, which tries to undermine any hint of religious authority – pastor, bishop, pope – because the religious authority is what preserves fixed truths. I try to post on this Board some alternatives to the media “group-think” mentality, but of course I’m biased somewhat by the media too.
Are some of the people on here really "priests" as the original answer to my post stated? If so, God help us, I think we're going to need all the help we can get.
I can understand people being disgruntled - I guess for lack of a less offensive word - because of JF&G, I have friends whose parishes were closed or merged, and I know how painful it was for them. However, they didn't let it wreck their faith like it seems like so many on here have.
Influenced by the media that much? What happened to being in the world but not of it? Do some of these people have any idea how the things they say sound? If they do, and say them anyway, if they are priests, maybe they shouldn't be. Instead of - or perhaps in addition to - saying that Bishop Malone should clean house, maybe some of the people on here should look inward for a change and clean their own house - their spiritual house - before it's too late.
Thank you for your kindness.
Anonymous

North Tonawanda, NY

#51058 Oct 19, 2012
Discouraged wrote:
<quoted text>
Are some of the people on here really "priests" as the original answer to my post stated? If so, God help us, I think we're going to need all the help we can get.
I can understand people being disgruntled - I guess for lack of a less offensive word - because of JF&G, I have friends whose parishes were closed or merged, and I know how painful it was for them. However, they didn't let it wreck their faith like it seems like so many on here have.
Influenced by the media that much? What happened to being in the world but not of it? Do some of these people have any idea how the things they say sound? If they do, and say them anyway, if they are priests, maybe they shouldn't be. Instead of - or perhaps in addition to - saying that Bishop Malone should clean house, maybe some of the people on here should look inward for a change and clean their own house - their spiritual house - before it's too late.
Thank you for your kindness.
Yes, we too were discouraged when they closed our parish, and we continue to be discouraged 4 years later. DOB had absolutely no concern for the parishes they shut down and they continue to have no concern. Personally, I don't care what they do or shut down - I don't have a parish, never will. Thank you very much.
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#51059 Oct 19, 2012
Discouraged wrote:
<quoted text>
Are some of the people on here really "priests" as the original answer to my post stated? If so, God help us, I think we're going to need all the help we can get.
I can understand people being disgruntled - I guess for lack of a less offensive word - because of JF&G, I have friends whose parishes were closed or merged, and I know how painful it was for them. However, they didn't let it wreck their faith like it seems like so many on here have.
Influenced by the media that much? What happened to being in the world but not of it? Do some of these people have any idea how the things they say sound? If they do, and say them anyway, if they are priests, maybe they shouldn't be. Instead of - or perhaps in addition to - saying that Bishop Malone should clean house, maybe some of the people on here should look inward for a change and clean their own house - their spiritual house - before it's too late.
Thank you for your kindness.
No, it is apparent you don't know what you're talking about, for lack of saying something more offensive to you. Instead, you're saying you are basically, "new" to the faith, but feel you are going to come in and tell everyone else who has been here what is going on. Or, worse yet, someone else has their hand in your posting.

The Church is dirty and that is proven more and more each and every day. We've seen the more serious cases of Father Jim Bartnik, who had a stroke in Bishop Kmiec's office when trying to report an embezzlement by a priest. There he was yelled at by Monsignor LiPuma (because apparently LiPuma was related to another person who was a possible accomplice to the other priest). We see Father Joseph Moreno who was treated poorly, who told people how bad he was treated by diocesan officials and who then gave up rather than deal with the stink inside the Church. We also have seen the Bishop of Buffalo lie at Our Lady of Victory Basilica to try to save himself from how poorly he handled the situation.

The Church is called to be in the world, but not of it, yet we continue to see the Church is very much of the world. Their interests rest in sex (pedophilia), money (big time), power, image & public relations, corporate attorneys to protect them, lies and cover ups, crushing people who get in their way........etc.

Since you like to preach, I recommend you do some research to back up what you say. Don't just come on here and offer your emotions. In many ways, it sounds like perhaps you are questioning your new decision to join and are looking for some reassurance that you did the right thing. Well, if you turn in your envelope each week, clap for your priest & treat him like a popular celebrity and stay out of everyone's way..........you'll do fine!
anon

Hamburg, NY

#51060 Oct 19, 2012
I am not a parishoner at St. Lawrence but have had multiple encounters over the years with Fr. Joe in a positive manner. I personally observed him helping the sick and poor in a variety of ways. He was a true priest. Quite possibly if Bishop Malone is looking for a reason for his despair it may be his complete disillusionment over the current state of the diocese of Buffalo. I am sure this could be quite overwhelming to a true priest who only wants to do good for the sick, poor and downtrodden. I will not be attending the funeral, but for all of us unable to attend I suggest we stop and say a prayer today for the soul of this generous priest. I pray for the family and parishoners to gain peace and comfort in the days ahead. I am sure their suffering is great.

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