Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish...

Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

There are 62218 comments on the WGRZ Buffalo story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY. In it, WGRZ Buffalo reports that:

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York.

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A Warning

Crittenden, NY

#45188 Dec 24, 2011
So tell me, how many of you are going to look at your pastor standing behind the altar tonight wondering if he has any secrets to hide..

When he stands on that pulpit telling you how you must repent to the little child that was born this morning all well knowing how many children he has harmed in the past?

Keep giving your hard earned money to support his trips and dinners.

Merry Christmas.
anonymous

Grand Island, NY

#45189 Dec 25, 2011
This is the first Christmas since the restored translation of the Mass. There was nothing bad about the previous translation, but it failed to affirm transcendent aspects of the liturgy and our Faith. The restored translation emphasizes precisely the things that were forgotten by many people in the last 40 years. The mundane translation we were using went along with other changes - like demoting the Blessed Sacrament, first to a side altar, then sometimes to another room. Churches were rearranged towards an enforced "togetherness", so that the congregation worhips the congregation. The crucifix was replaced by something else, and the Stations of the Cross were replaced by painless stick figures.
This resulted in fewer priests, fewer laity, and now fewer parishes. Restoring the language of the liturgy is only one step in a deeper restoration,all towards reemphasizing God.
Mary Christmas to all readers on this blog.
anonymous

Grand Island, NY

#45190 Dec 25, 2011
In restoring the liturgical emphasis on God,the obstacle is the weak catechetics of recent decades. When I taught teens a few years ago, many had no idea the Mass had anything to do with the Crucifixion. They regarded it only as a community gathering, where Christ is made "present" to the extent people were caring and enthusiastic. They knew a priest was necessary, but only as a kind of leader, to draw people together. The next bishop will have to communicate directly with parents, to bypass many of the Religious Educators in the schools or parishes, who won't teach the supernatural or transcendent aspects of the sacraments. We have to solve the catechetical issue today, or there will be a lot more parishes closing tomorrow.
anonymous

Bay Shore, NY

#45191 Dec 25, 2011
Don't expect the next bishop to work miracles. There will be more parish closings.
Anonymous

AOL

#45192 Dec 25, 2011
Heard that St Adalberts was packed yesterday for their Mass....if everyone loves the mass there so much why didnt they go there before???? why didnt they support it all along and they wouldnt have had to close. Pretty stupid....lot of good it does now to go there....its over!!
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#45193 Dec 26, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
Heard that St Adalberts was packed yesterday for their Mass....if everyone loves the mass there so much why didnt they go there before???? why didnt they support it all along and they wouldnt have had to close. Pretty stupid....lot of good it does now to go there....its over!!
Many of the churches were packed this weekend, especially the Christmas Eve Vigil Masses. Many make their once a year appearance and then wonder why the churches are closing.
Cinderella

Buffalo, NY

#45194 Dec 26, 2011
anonymous wrote:
Don't expect the next bishop to work miracles. There will be more parish closings.
The next bishop is not going to brag about his 'cinderella accomplishments' like the one in tha Falls after merging 5 parishes, and olso trying "to steal" parishoners from other churches in town by behind-the-scene manipulations.
Cinderella

Buffalo, NY

#45195 Dec 26, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
Heard that St Adalberts was packed yesterday for their Mass....if everyone loves the mass there so much why didnt they go there before???? why didnt they support it all along and they wouldnt have had to close. Pretty stupid....lot of good it does now to go there....its over!!
Did the 'cinderella parish' in the Falls was filled to the capacity for Xmas? Did the 'golden boy' enjoyed his 'glory' to the fullest with his groupies?Did he fill up his coffers well-to the brim?
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#45196 Dec 26, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
Heard that St Adalberts was packed yesterday for their Mass....if everyone loves the mass there so much why didnt they go there before???? why didnt they support it all along and they wouldnt have had to close. Pretty stupid....lot of good it does now to go there....its over!!
This makes no sense.
I went to Ascension NT, there were 900 families there, all the Masses were full, The Eucharist was the center of everything that went on there, and they closed that place of worship.
annon

Buffalo, NY

#45197 Dec 26, 2011
Cottage wrote:
Get ready for huge Xmas Eve party at the lake in Ransomville! Be there on time! Bring gifts! Huge bills are preferable since the horse ranch costs a lot. Merry Xmas to all!
give it up Ivan- you are a real ass.
Use your brain

Lancaster, NY

#45198 Dec 26, 2011
anonymous wrote:
This is the first Christmas since the restored translation of the Mass. There was nothing bad about the previous translation, but it failed to affirm transcendent aspects of the liturgy and our Faith. The restored translation emphasizes precisely the things that were forgotten by many people in the last 40 years. The mundane translation we were using went along with other changes - like demoting the Blessed Sacrament, first to a side altar, then sometimes to another room. Churches were rearranged towards an enforced "togetherness", so that the congregation worhips the congregation. The crucifix was replaced by something else, and the Stations of the Cross were replaced by painless stick figures.
This resulted in fewer priests, fewer laity, and now fewer parishes. Restoring the language of the liturgy is only one step in a deeper restoration,all towards reemphasizing God.
Mary Christmas to all readers on this blog.
Honey, once the ship sinks, it ain't ever going to sail again!

They can change all the words, but the story will still end the same....the church is D E A D!!!!!!!
anonymous

North Tonawanda, NY

#45199 Dec 26, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
This makes no sense.
I went to Ascension NT, there were 900 families there, all the Masses were full, The Eucharist was the center of everything that went on there, and they closed that place of worship.
I empathize with your loss, and the loss of all the Ascension parishioners. Father Hunt, Msgr. Szabo and Father Gibson must be turning over. However, do you think it was the same with Gary and Ted? In fact, I recall Jost saying the closings were "right sizing."
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#45200 Dec 27, 2011
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
I empathize with your loss, and the loss of all the Ascension parishioners. Father Hunt, Msgr. Szabo and Father Gibson must be turning over. However, do you think it was the same with Gary and Ted? In fact, I recall Jost saying the closings were "right sizing."
Watch out OLC, Gary has his ways. Eliminate the polish, then the whole shebang.
Paranoia

Lockport, NY

#45201 Dec 27, 2011
The 'cinderella' priest in the Falls has a real paranoia. We the parishioners(former)know you well. Do not blame other people for your 'plastic smile' and other stuff. You have a problem, you 'golden boy.'
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#45202 Dec 27, 2011
Paranoia wrote:
The 'cinderella' priest in the Falls has a real paranoia. We the parishioners(former)know you well. Do not blame other people for your 'plastic smile' and other stuff. You have a problem, you 'golden boy.'
Who is the Cinderella priest?
Which Church is he at?
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#45203 Dec 27, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is the Cinderella priest?
Which Church is he at?
He goes by many names, the Divine Mr M., the Candyman, Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, The Pruner, Jack Rabbit, Mr. Casino and the list goes on. He is pastor of two parishes and lives in 3 Rectories. Its tough to hit a moving target isn't it.
anonymous

Grand Island, NY

#45204 Dec 27, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
This makes no sense.
I went to Ascension NT, there were 900 families there, all the Masses were full, The Eucharist was the center of everything that went on there, and they closed that place of worship.
If Ascension focused on the Eucharist, that is a blessing. Many parishes, and more religious ed programs, taught that communion is a stepping stone to something more important, like friendliness or Peace and Justice. Many growing up in recent decades never learned about the Real Presence, and learned the priesthood only as social work, no connection to the Eucharist. Potential vocations were lost, thus the priest shortage, thus good parishes closed. It wasn't the fault of your parish. Do what you can to restore Catholic teaching in whatever situation you are in.
anonymous

Bay Shore, NY

#45205 Dec 28, 2011
But other dioceses are actually getting vocations. One of the problem is the generally poor quality of priests in the DOB. Good priests attract interest in the priesthood. It is difficult to do so,when priests are seen,and in many cases, known to be, poorly educated, neurotic, gossipy, and even "gay". No self-respecting young man is going to want to enter the seminary. As it is, the diocese over the ext 8 years will at best ordain 2-3 priests per year,while losing 5-7,due to death and retirement.
PrunerAndCandyma n

Lockport, NY

#45206 Dec 28, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>He goes by many names, the Divine Mr M., the Candyman, Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, The Pruner, Jack Rabbit, Mr. Casino and the list goes on. He is pastor of two parishes and lives in 3 Rectories. Its tough to hit a moving target isn't it.
What is Mazur pruning now in the Falls? Who is getting the candies? Any sheep to 'attack?' Is he so 'divine' that he does not know that some day everything will come to an end? Is the Jack Rabbit still jumping around his groupies? Is Casino a lucrative income every Saturday night for this wordle priest? No snow for his snowmobile!Good!Let him see how poor people live!
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#45207 Dec 28, 2011
PrunerAndCandyman wrote:
<quoted text>What is Mazur pruning now in the Falls? Who is getting the candies? Any sheep to 'attack?' Is he so 'divine' that he does not know that some day everything will come to an end? Is the Jack Rabbit still jumping around his groupies? Is Casino a lucrative income every Saturday night for this wordle priest? No snow for his snowmobile!Good!Let him see how poor people live!
Does not want to live at the parish in the neighborhood - too many "poor people". A beautiful lake ranch is more his style.

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