The US-AA merger - what the route map will look like

Feb 20, 2013 Full story: Anna.aero 112

Another tailfin in the trash: US network airline brand US Airways is consigned to the history books, following Continental Airlines and Northwest Airlines to leave just three - American Airlines, Delta Air Lines and United Airlines.

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dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#81 Feb 27, 2013
Toad wrote:
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DL has AC checks all over the world, we fly all over the world. The majority of chx are done right here stateside. Alas, it wasn't the quality of ur work that got you fired. It was ur refusal to change w/ the tide of the industry. U were still holding out for 1968 packages that had long outgrown their days everywhere but NWA. U played hardball for 1 1/2 hr lunches, membership #'s, 4 30min breax and no mandadtory overtime in an industry that has to have folks working round the clock for various reasons, one being the weather, Intl and , best of all, the need to get the equpment making money. U guys were the same ones telling everyone AC couldn't be flown 20 hrs a day. U had a membership quota. U got fired. The Corp moved on, went BK, merged and now makes a ton of moola w/ shared sacrfices by all groups. U didn't want to play as a team, the rest of us do.
I guess you just believe anything anyone tells you. I worked the line and the cks, and never saw 2 hour lunch or 30 min break. Perhaps you do not know much about a airline works in a hub and spoke system. The planes come in roughly all at one time, the people change planes, they leave again, and a few hours later a bunch of other planes come back and the process repeats itself several time a day. If you call a mech that has 2.5 hours of idle time in between ground time a lunch, what do you call a fireman's idle time between fires; a vacation?

Often I and many others did not get a break or a lunch if we had a broke plane. Go talk to a IBM field engineer at BLDG J, if it is still there. Those guys do almost nothing, but when something breaks, they work and that essentially is what an line mech is, and do not tell me how much more educated they because they necessarily are not.

It was a really stupid manager that got mad watching line mechs sitting around playing card or doing nothing, because that essentially meant everything was going great. It is when nobody is around, and out on the tarmack fixing things is when the pressure will be on the manager to get planes out of the line hangar or gate, and DTW had some real stupid managers.

And saying we refused overtime, you really are clueless. We practically fought each other over it, and during those two DC10-30 ever made retrofits in C world, the Director forced 16.5 hours days on us outside in the cold in a unheated airplane in a very cold January.

Summarily,you know nothing about what you talk about.
dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#82 Feb 27, 2013
Spade a Spade wrote:
<quoted text> I have seen first hand the work returned from overseas and spent many hours correcting what wasn't done correctly. Tell you what read the experts on the subject. One good book is Attention all Passengers by Mcgee. He list sources and experts on the subject.
Those DC10 would always spend the next 30 days in HGR 2 as Hanger Queen as we worked the bugs out after comming back from Heavy Check in Asia.

I downed a DC9 in DTW the summer or 05 for still having having the smoke detectors taped over for dinol treatment in Dothan AL HVCK. The managers covered it up; remember Value Jet? A friend of mine died on that flight.
dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#83 Feb 27, 2013
Spade a Spade wrote:
<quoted text> Then why did he get his job back with full backpay?
Because we quit working overtime, and the MEL count got quite high and the feds started to put pressure on the airline. Then the the Director/Management came to RED and begged for us to accept overtime again.
Toad

Atlanta, GA

#84 Feb 28, 2013
dirtydog wrote:
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I guess you just believe anything anyone tells you. I worked the line and the cks, and never saw 2 hour lunch or 30 min break. Perhaps you do not know much about a airline works in a hub and spoke system. The planes come in roughly all at one time, the people change planes, they leave again, and a few hours later a bunch of other planes come back and the process repeats itself several time a day. If you call a mech that has 2.5 hours of idle time in between ground time a lunch, what do you call a fireman's idle time between fires; a vacation?
Often I and many others did not get a break or a lunch if we had a broke plane. Go talk to a IBM field engineer at BLDG J, if it is still there. Those guys do almost nothing, but when something breaks, they work and that essentially is what an line mech is, and do not tell me how much more educated they because they necessarily are not.
It was a really stupid manager that got mad watching line mechs sitting around playing card or doing nothing, because that essentially meant everything was going great. It is when nobody is around, and out on the tarmack fixing things is when the pressure will be on the manager to get planes out of the line hangar or gate, and DTW had some real stupid managers.
And saying we refused overtime, you really are clueless. We practically fought each other over it, and during those two DC10-30 ever made retrofits in C world, the Director forced 16.5 hours days on us outside in the cold in a unheated airplane in a very cold January.
Summarily,you know nothing about what you talk about.
I know a quit well how a hub works..........if you guys were so good, and so busy and you gave up lunch and you know whatever else you suffered..........how come the AL's are safer now they have ever been and have 1/3 less MTO and the size of the AL is twice the size and..........forget it, a DAL Richard Anderson NWA hater once and always will be.
Toad

Atlanta, GA

#85 Feb 28, 2013
Spade a Spade wrote:
<quoted text> Yea right they are all liars if they don't agree with Dick..lmao
Yep, they are all liars if they do agree w/ Mr Anderson. Right?
Toad

Atlanta, GA

#86 Feb 28, 2013
dirtydog wrote:
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I guess you just believe anything anyone tells you. I worked the line and the cks, and never saw 2 hour lunch or 30 min break. Perhaps you do not know much about a airline works in a hub and spoke system. The planes come in roughly all at one time, the people change planes, they leave again, and a few hours later a bunch of other planes come back and the process repeats itself several time a day. If you call a mech that has 2.5 hours of idle time in between ground time a lunch, what do you call a fireman's idle time between fires; a vacation?
Often I and many others did not get a break or a lunch if we had a broke plane. Go talk to a IBM field engineer at BLDG J, if it is still there. Those guys do almost nothing, but when something breaks, they work and that essentially is what an line mech is, and do not tell me how much more educated they because they necessarily are not.
It was a really stupid manager that got mad watching line mechs sitting around playing card or doing nothing, because that essentially meant everything was going great. It is when nobody is around, and out on the tarmack fixing things is when the pressure will be on the manager to get planes out of the line hangar or gate, and DTW had some real stupid managers.
And saying we refused overtime, you really are clueless. We practically fought each other over it, and during those two DC10-30 ever made retrofits in C world, the Director forced 16.5 hours days on us outside in the cold in a unheated airplane in a very cold January.
Summarily,you know nothing about what you talk about.
Remember Value Jet? Now you are suggesting DAL is so unsafe that peoples lives are in danger? Another paranoid guy looking from the outside in wishing he was inside.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#87 Feb 28, 2013
Toad wrote:
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Remember Value Jet? Now you are suggesting DAL is so unsafe that peoples lives are in danger? Another paranoid guy looking from the outside in wishing he was inside.
Wow, you say it's safer with 1/3 less mechs and twice the amount of aircraft.
Spade a Spade

Saint Paul, MN

#88 Feb 28, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you say it's safer with 1/3 less mechs and twice the amount of aircraft.
I bet toad wouldn't agree with one stewardess and one pilot per flight, frankly that is all you need to operate an aircraft, how be it not safely..
old NWA Guy

Naples, FL

#89 Feb 28, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
So once again The exnwa executives end up on the bottom of the pool. AA, Ual, then delta. Gee maybe my prediction were wrong after all.
There you go again Spade talking about an industry you have zero knowledge about. What predictions would that be that you are claiming you made about the industry You have never been correct about a single thing concerning airlines.
Toad

Atlanta, GA

#90 Feb 28, 2013
Spade a Spade wrote:
<quoted text> I bet toad wouldn't agree with one stewardess and one pilot per flight, frankly that is all you need to operate an aircraft, how be it not safely..
So you think 1 FA and 1 Pilot can handle the 74 from ATL-NRT-MNL-NRT-ATL? As Ronald Reagan would say..........there you go again. The reason they can do more w/ less is because the team dumped your union that cared only about membership #'s, grievances and slow downs/sick outs. The team, that is those folks out there working for a living voted to keep ur unions off our campuses. Quit the rebuke I would say.
dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#91 Feb 28, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
I know a quit well how a hub works..........if you guys were so good, and so busy and you gave up lunch and you know whatever else you suffered..........how come the AL's are safer now they have ever been and have 1/3 less MTO and the size of the AL is twice the size and..........forget it, a DAL Richard Anderson NWA hater once and always will be.
Maybe because you all have new aircraft. How many DC10s do you all have now, how many 747 -100/200, how many MD 80s, how many 727-100/200, and we all know what happens to those DC9 that get bent up; to the trash heap. Just wait a few years, and I bet you were a big time AMFA supporter who crossed the line. There was allot of them.
dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#92 Feb 28, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember Value Jet? Now you are suggesting DAL is so unsafe that peoples lives are in danger? Another paranoid guy looking from the outside in wishing he was inside.
Wish I was inside. What a joke! I left voluntarily, after I finished a LC on overtime 3rd shift on the Thursday before that fateful Friday AND on my own time because it ran late, and then got walked out by three managers where one was the manager I passed probation with; a hard ass. You see I was a hard and loyal worker who never played any games or got in trouble, but I saw plenty of AMFA or IAM trouble makers cross that line, plenty of them, and that is what pisses me of.

I could have gone back, but why would I? I am doing better since, and living in beautiful Austin TX. I chose to do something else, not cling to RA's handouts.
dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#93 Feb 28, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think 1 FA and 1 Pilot can handle the 74 from ATL-NRT-MNL-NRT-ATL? As Ronald Reagan would say..........there you go again. The reason they can do more w/ less is because the team dumped your union that cared only about membership #'s, grievances and slow downs/sick outs. The team, that is those folks out there working for a living voted to keep ur unions off our campuses. Quit the rebuke I would say.
Reagan, who connived his way into OCS using his Hollywood friend Brigadier General Frank McCarthy connections, gave us a recession in 82' & 87', the highest interest rates ever in 81/82' and raised taxes 11 times. Wow I am impressed. Not well read, are you.
dirtydog

Sandy, TX

#94 Feb 28, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think 1 FA and 1 Pilot can handle the 74 from ATL-NRT-MNL-NRT-ATL? As Ronald Reagan would say..........there you go again. The reason they can do more w/ less is because the team dumped your union that cared only about membership #'s, grievances and slow downs/sick outs. The team, that is those folks out there working for a living voted to keep ur unions off our campuses. Quit the rebuke I would say.
And his duty station was Burbank CA, where he made propganda movies and voice overs and was in the bar by 5 pm while real soldiers and sailors bled out.
ex-mech

Appleton, WI

#95 Mar 19, 2013
Toad wrote:
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Once again you have no idea what you are talking about. DAL pensions are now about 88% funded which is wonderful because many folks pensions got dumped. I am lucky, mine didn't. It was frozen while I sill making pre BK wages. Comes to about 3600 a mo post 65 ys old. So you lied again. That makes 100% lies for you. And no, you haven't seen once piece of DAL equipment since you were locked out. From your nasty perspective it is a good and right thing you got locked out. You tried to advance a cause built on lies and laziness.
Boy your report looked alot diffrent than the one I saw.
ex-mech

Appleton, WI

#96 Mar 19, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
DL has AC checks all over the world, we fly all over the world. The majority of chx are done right here stateside. Alas, it wasn't the quality of ur work that got you fired. It was ur refusal to change w/ the tide of the industry. U were still holding out for 1968 packages that had long outgrown their days everywhere but NWA. U played hardball for 1 1/2 hr lunches, membership #'s, 4 30min breax and no mandadtory overtime in an industry that has to have folks working round the clock for various reasons, one being the weather, Intl and , best of all, the need to get the equpment making money. U guys were the same ones telling everyone AC couldn't be flown 20 hrs a day. U had a membership quota. U got fired. The Corp moved on, went BK, merged and now makes a ton of moola w/ shared sacrfices by all groups. U didn't want to play as a team, the rest of us do.
And Sean Hanitty is a Great American......Corps are great, Corps are great, say it with me.
ex-mech

Appleton, WI

#97 Mar 19, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you say it's safer with 1/3 less mechs and twice the amount of aircraft.
How do you like it there wine?
ex-mech

Appleton, WI

#98 Mar 19, 2013
dirtydog wrote:
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And his duty station was Burbank CA, where he made propganda movies and voice overs and was in the bar by 5 pm while real soldiers and sailors bled out.
Whats up C, its been a while since I have looked at topix, i see it's pretty much the same.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#99 Mar 20, 2013
ex-mech wrote:
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How do you like it there wine?
Like it where?
ex-mech

Appleton, WI

#100 Mar 20, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text> Like it where?
Sorry, maybe I was just assuming, I thought maybe you are now working for the outfit in Duluth.

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