Illegal Immigration Will Destroy the ...
peter

Lady Lake, FL

#23 Apr 18, 2010
Tony M wrote:
Yes, William you racist pig lol. You should know better than to say anything derogatory about poor illegals. The fact that the Mexican gov't actually shoots illegals from the south isn't racists. Anytime an American says anything mean spirited they are either a racists or a psychopath. That is how gutless we have become as a nation. That is why other countries do not fear or respect us. Mexico and it's people understand this and are literally taking over America. While we sit by and call each other names.
ok, so what your saying it is ok to kill someone solely because they're on US soil illegally trying to make a living? if they're here commiting physical harm to a human being, which some are, then I am all for capitol punishment. I do believe the powers that be need to beef up our OWN borders with the help of military, no disrespect to our BP but they are highly undermanned. I am very angry how my family along with many other American born families are having to sacrifice decent lifestyles because of undocumented non tax paying workers. I am a contractor and directly lose work because of undocumented workers, for example, just last week was bidding on a job and the homeowner somehow brought these workers up in conversation and admitted she would hire them if the job was done correctly to save a buck. So it's not just lowlife contractors who hire undocumented workers but also consumers who want to save a little money who are contributing to our hardship economy. Violence against illegal aliens would more than likely work, but if it resorts to that,this country will never be the same.
Common Sense

United States

#24 Apr 18, 2010
I'm not worried, the rightwing hate mongers will destory this country in 10 years. With the help of Faux News.
William L

Alamogordo, NM

#26 Apr 18, 2010
peter wrote:
William william william,
I will have to say I agree with 99% of your opinion. Illegal immigration is greatly "contributing" to bringing our economy down along with many other unrelated reasons that we won't get into. The mention of a bullit to the head just for being here illegally,You've got to be a racist with a comment like that!
Actually, I' am not raciest, I did take a oath to protect the USA, and that means all threats foreign and domestic, If we were found to be in Mexico illegal, They could put a bullet in our head, Remember, Mexican law: Guilty, Guilty without a trial, We are Foreign to them, AUTOMATIC GUILT, Why not do them the same way ?
William L

Alamogordo, NM

#27 Apr 18, 2010
We are wrote:
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americans - we have higher standards. There is no excuse for psycho threats and the old racist BS.
They can call me what they will, The Illegal Alien has and is now draining social services that you and me and every honest taxpayer has to pay for, The Illegal Aliens do not pay taxes, they do not obtain automobile insurance, They cut down all the trees on property they buy (we need those trees to breathe)They treat their women like crap, I would go on, but there is NOT enough room on here.
peter

Lady Lake, FL

#28 Apr 19, 2010
William L wrote:
<quoted text>They can call me what they will, The Illegal Alien has and is now draining social services that you and me and every honest taxpayer has to pay for, The Illegal Aliens do not pay taxes, they do not obtain automobile insurance, They cut down all the trees on property they buy (we need those trees to breathe)They treat their women like crap, I would go on, but there is NOT enough room on here.
And how many Americans treat their spouses like crap? How many Americans don't have auto ins.? and finally, believe it or not, many American born citizens don't pay taxes and work under the table? Illegal immigrants are only CONTRIBUTING to our problems, not saying we shouldn't take care of the immigration problem, just saying many others fall into the categories you mentioned! I do believe this country should make drastic modifications the way we handle our immigration problems! oh yea, my oppologies for the racist comment, this is actually a subject I shouldn't comment on because it fires me up evry time.
peter

Lady Lake, FL

#29 Apr 19, 2010
Peaches Just Passing By wrote:
Immigration will always be a issue. Immigration is not going to destroy American. The negative views about any group of people outside gays is whats destroying America.
"Illegal" immigration is the issue! on your second statement, really? lmao.
William L

Alamogordo, NM

#30 Apr 19, 2010
peter wrote:
<quoted text>And how many Americans treat their spouses like crap? How many Americans don't have auto ins.? and finally, believe it or not, many American born citizens don't pay taxes and work under the table? Illegal immigrants are only CONTRIBUTING to our problems, not saying we shouldn't take care of the immigration problem, just saying many others fall into the categories you mentioned! I do believe this country should make drastic modifications the way we handle our immigration problems! oh yea, my oppologies for the racist comment, this is actually a subject I shouldn't comment on because it fires me up evry time.
Your right, as far as the taxes are concerned, They need the So-called "Fair tax" them everyone pays taxes, With the fair tax you pay tax every time you buy something and NO ONE can avoid paying their "Fair Tax"
bob

Medicine Hat, Canada

#31 Apr 19, 2010
peter wrote:
<quoted text>ok, so what your saying it is ok to kill someone solely because they're on US soil illegally trying to make a living? if they're here commiting physical harm to a human being, which some are, then I am all for capitol punishment. I do believe the powers that be need to beef up our OWN borders with the help of military, no disrespect to our BP but they are highly undermanned. I am very angry how my family along with many other American born families are having to sacrifice decent lifestyles because of undocumented non tax paying workers. I am a contractor and directly lose work because of undocumented workers, for example, just last week was bidding on a job and the homeowner somehow brought these workers up in conversation and admitted she would hire them if the job was done correctly to save a buck. So it's not just lowlife contractors who hire undocumented workers but also consumers who want to save a little money who are contributing to our hardship economy. Violence against illegal aliens would more than likely work, but if it resorts to that,this country will never be the same.
oh what the hell, we started going against the geneava convention treaty and shredded the constitution and bill of rights 6 or 7 years ago. thug life
Bubba

Hobbs, NM

#32 Apr 21, 2010
KTLA.COM

LOS ANGELES -- A senior attorney with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was found guilty Tuesday of three dozen corruption-related charges for taking a series of bribes from immigrants who were seeking documentation to remain in the United States.
Some Guy

Las Cruces, NM

#33 Apr 21, 2010
Illegal immigration is like the Right Wing values babble. It's a distraction from what really needs to be done. While people are busy complaining about Mexicans and worrying about the rights of fertilized human eggs, the important issues go neglected. The US will be a disaster in 40 years, but don't blame it on Mexicans.
No Thanks

Albuquerque, NM

#34 Apr 21, 2010
That's true to some extent, but there is a lot of blame that can go to illegal mexicans. We are not confused about the difference btw them and Americans who are Hispanic Latin. Big difference.
Some Guy wrote:
Illegal immigration is like the Right Wing values babble. It's a distraction from what really needs to be done. While people are busy complaining about Mexicans and worrying about the rights of fertilized human eggs, the important issues go neglected. The US will be a disaster in 40 years, but don't blame it on Mexicans.
Art

United States

#35 Apr 21, 2010
peter wrote:
<quoted text>And how many Americans treat their spouses like crap? How many Americans don't have auto ins.? and finally, believe it or not, many American born citizens don't pay taxes and work under the table? Illegal immigrants are only CONTRIBUTING to our problems, not saying we shouldn't take care of the immigration problem, just saying many others fall into the categories you mentioned! I do believe this country should make drastic modifications the way we handle our immigration problems! oh yea, my oppologies for the racist comment, this is actually a subject I shouldn't comment on because it fires me up evry time.
Stop comparing tacos to apple pie. Regardless of how Americans treat their spouses etc is irrelevant and the point is moot, as you're talking about the behavior of Americans in America as opposed to that of illegal aliens in America. Get a clue and go back to school
Randy

Rawlins, WY

#36 Apr 22, 2010
Mexico Immigration Law
Immigration Reform? Let's Try Mexico's Immigration Law!
By John Lillpop

Tuesday, February 27, 2007

The article that follows by Dr. J. Michael Waller should be an eye opener to liberals who believe in open borders and loose immigration enforcement.

Mind you, this is the law of the land in Mexico, the third-world nation that has encouraged millions of its citizens to invade America.

It is also the same country that threatened to take the U.S. to the UN for building a fence on American soil!

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Mexico's Immigration Law:
Let's Try It Here at Home By J. Michael Waller, Citizens for a Constitutional Republic

Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven't been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it's noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

in the country legally;

have the means to sustain themselves economically;

not destined to be burdens on society;

of economic and social benefit to society;

of good character and have no criminal records; and

contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that:

immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country's internal politics;

foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;

those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Randy

Rawlins, WY

#37 Apr 22, 2010
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Poblacion, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution.[1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents.(Article 34)

Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants.(Article 73)

A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity.(Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned.(Article 116)

Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment.(Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished.(Article 117)

Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years.(Article 118)

Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned.(Article 125)

Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported.(Article 126)
Randy

Rawlins, WY

#38 Apr 22, 2010
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison.(Article 127)

Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined.(Article 132)

All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lillpop02...
James

Elm, UK

#39 Jul 7, 2010
It is to late. The USA is importing Indians in vast numbers, both legal and illegal. They will make Mexican immigration seem like a handful in the near future. They will overrun the USA in time. They have larger families, are scam merchants, and they will take what you have. Their ideas of fair play, honesty etc. are very different to the American ideal. The welfare system will buckle under their numbers. The intial inflow will possess skills and qualifications, some even earned not phoney, but their family members (who soon follow) and their offspring will soon establish themselves and use the system to their advantage. All countries that have large numbers of Indian immigrants regret the day that the first one arrived. Europe, Australia, Canada, just ask the locals what they think. Big mistake.

“I got it back!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#40 Jul 7, 2010
Randy wrote:
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Poblacion, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.
It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution.[1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.
Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents.(Article 34)
Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants.(Article 73)
A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity.(Articles 85 and 86)
A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned.(Article 116)
Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment.(Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished.(Article 117)
Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years.(Article 118)
Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.
Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
RAndy

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post a link to the actual document with these articles.... Sooo many out there say that this is all hogwash, and I want to read it firsthand...

PLEASE!!
Bubba

Hobbs, NM

#41 Jul 9, 2010
Illegal Immigration Will Destroy NEW MEXICO now.
guille

Panama, Panama

#44 Sep 13, 2010
this stupid thing yoyu need to know first latin america is good and bad depent in the country bolivia haiti example they are in pronblem but countrys like brazil chile panama costa rica are good an d one more thing you need to now this america is the continent not is the name off your country understood
Hah

Santa Fe, NM

#45 Sep 13, 2010
Perfection wrote:
<quoted text>
RAndy
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post a link to the actual document with these articles.... Sooo many out there say that this is all hogwash, and I want to read it firsthand...
PLEASE!!
thisdope is begging for it.

Again, why do you idiots want to emulate unamerican values?

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