Martinez vetoes minimum wage increase

Martinez vetoes minimum wage increase

There are 107 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Mar 30, 2013, titled Martinez vetoes minimum wage increase. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

Gov. Susana Martinez on Friday vetoed a bill to increase the state's minimum wage by $1 an hour, to $8.50. Martinez, a Republican, blamed majority Democrats in the state Legislature for seeking too large an increase.

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Since: May 10

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#21 Mar 30, 2013
xando wrote:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2005/01/03...
^^^^^^^^^From one of your own.
What do you consider to be the lesser of two evils--fascism or socialism?
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Both are equally evil. The author is wrong.

Furthermore, I am not "anti-war". Sometimes, war is necessary to preserve freedom.

“Eys so hendsum!”

Since: Jun 09

Ol' Juarez

#22 Mar 30, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Please provide the link to the poll which provided your statistic.
Regardless, in a republic, where our leaders are elected to do what is right, not necessary what feels good at the moment, sometimes the answer is just "no".
Then it isn't necessary for her to make big bucks, and for her to live on what most people do. I am sure she would have signed the bill in a heartbeat.
You cant be serious

Flint, MI

#23 Mar 30, 2013
fmer505-1951 wrote:
<quoted text>I would like to see Sucia support herself and Chuck on the current wage of $7.50, pay rent, buy food, gas their vehicles, buy clothes, shoes and toiletries. I doubt she would be able to do it, even if she bought her clothes at Walmart.
When you got your first job ever, and probably got paid minimum wage, were you expecting to support a family and most likely retire on that wage? Minimum wage was created to stop sweat shops and keep the crooked business owners from having an unfair advantage over their unskilled employees. Most minimum wage employees are unskilled and inexperienced when they first go into the work force. Most employees try to improve their work skills and move up the ladder to work their way out of minimum wage and/or go to school to improve their way of life. Minimum wage is not meant for anyone to stay at that wage forever and then bitch about it. You are responsible for your successes and failures not the government.
Your point might be better taken if your hate and anger weren't so apparent and childish like.
xando

Scottsdale, AZ

#24 Mar 30, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Please provide the link to the poll which provided your statistic.
Regardless, in a republic, where our leaders are elected to do what is right, not necessary what feels good at the moment, sometimes the answer is just "no".
Not exactly.

They are elected to represent the will of the people within the confines if the Constitution; not to simply make arbitrary decisions, because they "know what's best for us."

I think the people's wish to raise minimum wage falls well within the parameters of the Constitution.

“Eys so hendsum!”

Since: Jun 09

Ol' Juarez

#25 Mar 30, 2013
You cant be serious wrote:
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When you got your first job ever, and probably got paid minimum wage, were you expecting to support a family and most likely retire on that wage? Minimum wage was created to stop sweat shops and keep the crooked business owners from having an unfair advantage over their unskilled employees. Most minimum wage employees are unskilled and inexperienced when they first go into the work force. Most employees try to improve their work skills and move up the ladder to work their way out of minimum wage and/or go to school to improve their way of life. Minimum wage is not meant for anyone to stay at that wage forever and then bitch about it. You are responsible for your successes and failures not the government.
Your point might be better taken if your hate and anger weren't so apparent and childish like.
I got paid above minimum wage for the time of year. Unskilled? People work at various jobs, that no matter what the skills are the greedy employer only starts them off at minimum wage, with raises far and few between. Don't tell me that everyone goes out and gets a degree, because that is unrealistic. No one is saying that the government is responsible for someones success or failure, but people should get an increase in wages. Again, would you be able to pay rent, buy groceries, pay utilities, gas your vehicle, buy medications, etc. on $7.50 an hour? The cost of living is sky rocketing. Every time I go into the Supermarket for groceries the prices have jumped up fifty cents or more in one week. If the prices remained low then there wouldn't be an outcry to raise the wages.
xando

Scottsdale, AZ

#26 Mar 30, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Both are equally evil. The author is wrong.
Furthermore, I am not "anti-war". Sometimes, war is necessary to preserve freedom.
Yes, you are clearly a poseur.

Since: May 10

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#27 Mar 30, 2013
xando wrote:
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Not exactly.
They are elected to represent the will of the people within the confines if the Constitution; not to simply make arbitrary decisions, because they "know what's best for us."
I think the people's wish to raise minimum wage falls well within the parameters of the Constitution.
Considering that Susan Martinez made her conservative views quite will known prior to her election, and yet she was elected nonetheless, and her popularity level remains quite high, then I believe that her decision does indeed represent the will of the people.

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#28 Mar 30, 2013
xando wrote:
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Yes, you are clearly a poseur.
The beauty of conservatism is that, unlike leftists, we don't all have to walk in lockstep with anyone.

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#29 Mar 30, 2013
fmer505-1951 wrote:
<quoted text>I got paid above minimum wage for the time of year. Unskilled? People work at various jobs, that no matter what the skills are the greedy employer only starts them off at minimum wage, with raises far and few between. Don't tell me that everyone goes out and gets a degree, because that is unrealistic. No one is saying that the government is responsible for someones success or failure, but people should get an increase in wages. Again, would you be able to pay rent, buy groceries, pay utilities, gas your vehicle, buy medications, etc. on $7.50 an hour? The cost of living is sky rocketing. Every time I go into the Supermarket for groceries the prices have jumped up fifty cents or more in one week. If the prices remained low then there wouldn't be an outcry to raise the wages.
It is not the duty of an employer to provide anyone with a standard of living.

However, if you want to blame anyone for skyrocketing prices, blame government. It is government meddling in the private sector that has driven prices food and energy prices higher.

It IS government's duty to provide the economic environment whereby innovation and entrepreneurship can provide a better standard of living for it's citizens. In that regard, government has utterly failed.
xando

Camp Verde, AZ

#30 Mar 30, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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The beauty of conservatism is that, unlike leftists, we don't all have to walk in lockstep with anyone.
LOL. Now that's funny, since you cons ALL repeat talking points like puppets. You sound like Rush Limbaugh miniatures.
xando

Camp Verde, AZ

#31 Mar 31, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Considering that Susan Martinez made her conservative views quite will known prior to her election, and yet she was elected nonetheless, and her popularity level remains quite high, then I believe that her decision does indeed represent the will of the people.
An overwhelming number of New Mexicans support the minimum wage increase:

http://www.pva-nm.org/unified_action.htm
xando

Camp Verde, AZ

#32 Mar 31, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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It is not the duty of an employer to provide anyone with a standard of living.
However, if you want to blame anyone for skyrocketing prices, blame government. It is government meddling in the private sector that has driven prices food and energy prices higher.
Would you give examples of this--not just a con opinion?
It IS government's duty to provide the economic environment whereby innovation and entrepreneurship can provide a better standard of living for It's citizens. In that regard, government has utterly failed.
How has government failed in that regard?

Since: May 10

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#33 Mar 31, 2013
xando wrote:
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LOL. Now that's funny, since you cons ALL repeat talking points like puppets. You sound like Rush Limbaugh miniatures.
Really? Yet I've told you just in this thread alone that I don't agree with ANY increase in the minimum wage..indeed, I don't agree with the concept of the minimum wage at all..while Susana Martinez would support a 30 cent increase, and has made no mention of abolishing the minimum wage. Two very different viewpoints, yet she still has my support, and my vote.

You lefties always make the mistake of connecting a very distinct ideology with "talking points". I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh in years, and indeed Rush Limbaugh does share many of my views, but my conservative roots go back to my high school years, well before Rush Limbaugh appeared on the scene. Merely because those who believe in liberty agree on most issues does not mean there are any "talking points" involved. Indeed, the absence of government interference in our lives is a pretty simple dogma.

In reality, it is the left who engages in hero worship of your political leaders. Witnessing the way the weak minded swooned when Barack Obama was elected, and then re-elected, was enough to make any real American puke.

Since: May 10

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#34 Mar 31, 2013
xando wrote:
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An overwhelming number of New Mexicans support the minimum wage increase:
http://www.pva-nm.org/unified_action.htm
You cite a poll put forth by big government socialists? Bwaahhaaahaaahaaahaa!

I want to see a copy of the actual poll questions, thank you.

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#35 Mar 31, 2013
xando wrote:
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Would you give examples of this--not just a con opinion?
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How has government failed in that regard?
I don't give opinions, I give facts. There is no doubt whatsoever that government drives prices for nearly everything higher, and if they find a segment of the economy that has somehow escaped their control, you can bet that some bureaucrat somewhere is busy trying to find a way to exert that control.

http://www.thepriceoffuel.com/whataffectsfuel...

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011...

http://www.tnfarmbureau.org/content/too-much-...

http://www.nahb.org/generic.aspx...

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/16/obamas-new-...

http://inflationdata.com/articles/2013/03/03/...
xando

United States

#36 Mar 31, 2013
It is really difficult for you to fathom that you and "your ilk" (as you are so fond of saying) do not speak for some silent majority in America.

Common sense should tell you that a minimum wage increase initiative would be firmly supported by New Mexicans. This is an extremely poor state where the majority if employed adults work for minimum wage. Of course they will support an increase.

In fact, the overwhelming majority of Americans support minimum wage increases.

Americans elected Pres Obama, not once but twice. Apparently they approve of the job he is doing.

Face it, you and "your ilk" are a dying breed. You do not speak for many Americans.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
You cite a poll put forth by big government socialists? Bwaahhaaahaaahaaahaa!
I want to see a copy of the actual poll questions, thank you.
xando

United States

#37 Mar 31, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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I want to see a copy of the actual poll questions, thank you.
Do your own footwork. It's enough that I had to give you a link--so out of touch and unaware are you with American preferences.
xando

United States

#38 Mar 31, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text> Witnessing the way the weak minded swooned when Barack Obama was elected, and then re-elected, was enough to make any real American puke.
"REAL" Americans elected Pres Obama TWICE.

LOL

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

Since: Aug 08

Dear old mucky Drasnia

#39 Mar 31, 2013
This puts things in perspective, as to what so-called "conservatives" are actually trying to conserve.

http://tinyurl.com/d4k92jk
xando

United States

#40 Mar 31, 2013
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
This puts things in perspective, as to what so-called "conservatives" are actually trying to conserve.
http://tinyurl.com/d4k92jk
So much for any trickle down effect that these "conservative" bozos continue to maintain is the desirability of the situation described in that link.

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