General obligation bond will affect all NMSU campuses

Oct 9, 2012 Full story: KVIA-TV El Paso 62

The New Mexico General Obligation Bond C election contains proposed funding for improvements to all New Mexico State University campuses, along with several other schools throughout the state.

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AGGIES08

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Oct 10, 2012
No way - no how

Money for golden parachutes, money for loser
football programs and overpaid coaches and
incompetent administrations with overpaid
con artists.

VOTE NO!

Since: Sep 08

Alamogordo, NM

#2 Oct 11, 2012
Vote No. Throwing $$$$ down a union hole does not equal increased graduation rates.
Ex- El Paso Resident

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Oct 11, 2012
I am a graduate of NMSU from the 80s.

Last night I got a call from the Alumni association asking for a $150 donation. When I said no they kept asking and decreasing the amount every time I said no.

When they got to the lowest amount I said no and explained my reasons:

1. The fact their fired Couture was a good thing but only a step in a journey of 1000 miles.

2. If NMSU can afford such lavish severance (almost a half a million dollars) why do they need my help?

3. When will we see the cronies making big bucks go away as well?

4. Why did NMSU move $4 million for academics to athletics when they had an "unexplained" shortfall and did not ask why the short fall occurred or hold anyone accountable?

5. Why is the conferences the loosing worthless Aggie football team is in more important than maintaining accreditation of the Nursing program at DABCC?

6. Why is NMSU at a level of only around 60% rate of students completing and receiving degrees (the University cannot do better than public K-12 schools in New Mexico)?

7. Why is the looser football coach the second highest paid employee?

When NMSU gets its collective sh*t together then maybe I will support it again. In my opinion that includes a new Board of Regents as well as a complete change in the upper administration, decrease funding or outright dump the football program and once again focus on education and a good success rate in graduation (NMSU was warned on the low graduation rate just recently by the Department of Education).

I plan to vote NO on the bond issue and encourage others to do the same. It is "not for the kids"; it is for people like Couture to get rich when they fail.

Unless things change a lot my kids will go to New Mexico Tech or UTEP instead of NMSU. Never thought I would say that but this is not my NMSU anymore.
carol

Carlsbad, NM

#4 Oct 11, 2012
vote YES if U like and pay more rent
IF MY TAX GOES UP I WILL INCREASE YOUR RENT

COUNT ON IT!!!!!!!!!!
Spiro Agnew

Artesia, NM

#5 Oct 11, 2012
Nicely put, Carol. Many punks (17-30) just assume that when a business get's taxed, they just throw a smaller Christmas party at the end of the year. News flash, junior: all taxes get translated down to LOSS OF TAKE-HOME PAY TO THE LOWEST WAGE EARNER through skipped wage bonuses and higher fees for things like Netflix and blank checks at your bank for your 'free-checking' account. Revenue is NOT created in a vacuum.

Register now. Vote Romney/Ryan and we'll all be rich enough to live comfortably.
an Aggie

Las Cruces, NM

#6 Oct 12, 2012
Ex- El Paso Resident wrote:
I am a graduate of NMSU from the 80s.
Last night I got a call from the Alumni association asking for a $150 donation. When I said no they kept asking and decreasing the amount every time I said no.
When they got to the lowest amount I said no and explained my reasons:
1....
I plan to vote NO on the bond issue and encourage others to do the same. It is "not for the kids"; it is for people like Couture to get rich when they fail.
Unless things change a lot my kids will go to New Mexico Tech or UTEP instead of NMSU. Never thought I would say that but this is not my NMSU anymore.
Good points, well stated.

I am also a 1980s graduate of NMSU. As such, and having worked for New Mexico Tech in the 1990s and first half of the 2000s, I would suggest you do some more home work before sending your kids to NM Tech. While I worked at Tech, the admistration there from the top down had a very "we're a big fish in a small pond" attitude. The regents would routinely do meeting by conference call and closed session against the open meetings act, kept poor agenda records, etc., to the point where the NM Attorney General forced them to change on the threat of legal action. Hirings, firings, promotions, etc., were basically politically motivated. NM TEch Pres. DR. Dan Lopez basically got his job through political connections in Santa Fe and eslsewhere, rather than any real merit in admistration.(You'd hope the president of a Tech University might have a science/tech background- Pres. Lopez's nearest connection to that is a degree in POLITICAL science.) And when Gov. Richrdson was tapped for Commnerce Sectrary in the Obama White House, NM Tech President got the job of heading the search committee to find a replacment for then NM Lt. Governor Diane Denish - which show the connections Lopez had with the highest levels of state government.

Maybe things have changed at Tech in the past 5+ years, but the situation while I worked there put NMSU's current climate to shame.
minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#7 Oct 12, 2012
Vote NO on this. They will only use the money to give other state officials Golden Parachuttes like Couture.

No more money on stupidity. They mishandle the public's money then demand more. The schools do not need it. We do not need a fancy new Art building or a fancy bookstore.

You don't need fancy buildings and expensive staff to run a university.

How much do the Regents get paid per year? There's a good cut that can pay for improvements. How much does the university president of these campuses get paid? Slash it. How much do professors get paid for 8 months of work? Slash. How much is wasted on these losing sports teams? Slash again.

There are plenty of places to cut waste in the universities. Cut, cut and cut some more. We don't need 2 Dona Ana branch colleges in this little town. Cut.

This is starting to sound like the federal govt. Tax, tax and tax some more.
NOMOREYEARS

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Oct 13, 2012
No more yes on bonds either.

Locksley and Couture Golden Parachutes for
poor performance.

Transfer of academic funds to a poor football
program.

Low morale, lower student enrollment.

VOTE NO UNTIL THESE CLOWNS GET THEIR STUFF IN
ORDER!
minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#9 Oct 13, 2012
No, no, no ... Absolutely not ... No no no more money to these wasteful universities.
johnny

Carlsbad, NM

#10 Oct 13, 2012
carol wrote:
vote YES if U like and pay more rent
IF MY TAX GOES UP I WILL INCREASE YOUR RENT
COUNT ON IT!!!!!!!!!!
indeed..........
all tax is paid by the least able to pay because the uneducated are too stupid to realize that a vote for this bond will increased their rent, insurance, groceries, walmart purchases, etc etc
minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#11 Oct 13, 2012
Vote no. These places have way too much waste.
Loyal Dem

Alamogordo, NM

#12 Oct 13, 2012
Passing the GO bond will NOT increase your existing taxes, grocery bills, rent, insurance,etc. Where on earth are you getting your information? This is an extension of an existing bond. You won't even feel it.

The GRT, on the other hand, will be felt if you shop outside the boundaries of the municipality - anywhere in the county. The tax will NOT, however, even with the increase, be as high as the current tax within the Alamogordo city limits.

The GO Bond is to repair infrastructure and help the libraries. Period. That means it is used to fix buildings and roofs and buy books. It will not be used for anything to do with 'golden parachutes', lining people's pockets.... Where do you folks get your information??? NMSU-A has beautiful buildings that have to be maintained. It is less expensive to maintain a building than to build a new one.

Folks, please do your homework. NMSU-A has lower enrollment because the graduating classes of the high school is going down. Fewer and fewer students can afford college/afford to pay their school loans. And if Romney gets elected, unless your daddy has money for you to borrow, which is Romney's solution to funding your college tuition - then things will only get more critical. Vote YES for the GO Bonds and the GRT. Do the smart and right thing.
minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#13 Oct 13, 2012
Vote no on any tax increases. You were told you wouldn't feel the bailouts also.
Loyal Dem

Alamogordo, NM

#14 Oct 13, 2012
The only thing you and I felt from the 'bail-out' was a recession that slowed down. Check out the stock market now, minimitt. It's higher than it's been in years. Thank god Obama had the foresight to bail out wall street, save the automotive industry and save us from an even worse recession. Voting 'no' on the GO Bond only deprives the libraries of addition funding for materials, deprives the colleges of funds to fix infrastructure and voting 'no' on the GRT only deprives us of improving our quality of life here in Alamogordo. Maybe not every tax increase is good but this time, they're all winners. Sometimes you have to belly up and pay a little bit to see improvements in our community. What are you so angry about?????
Dont get fooled AGAIN

Tularosa, NM

#15 Oct 13, 2012
Loyal Dem wrote:
The only thing you and I felt from the 'bail-out' was a recession that slowed down. Check out the stock market now, minimitt. It's higher than it's been in years. Thank god Obama had the foresight to bail out wall street, save the automotive industry and save us from an even worse recession. Voting 'no' on the GO Bond only deprives the libraries of addition funding for materials, deprives the colleges of funds to fix infrastructure and voting 'no' on the GRT only deprives us of improving our quality of life here in Alamogordo. Maybe not every tax increase is good but this time, they're all winners. Sometimes you have to belly up and pay a little bit to see improvements in our community. What are you so angry about?????
It is equally important to remember the $5 million votech bond the taxpayers are funding from a recent election. Could you give us an update on the votech program at NMSA-A and a rough estimate of the fund balance? I'm just joking. The fund is gone and no votech. Am I right?
minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#16 Oct 13, 2012
Not angry at all. How many of these college grads are we keeping in NM and for you specifically, How many in Alamogordo? Show me the return on investment.

And yes, unless you are 70 yrs old, you will pay for the bailouts. A high percentage of the money has not been paid back. I don't deny that some things have worked. Many did not. Where'd all the GREEN money go? Don't count your chickens yet. Things are not horrible, but they are by no means good.
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#17 Oct 13, 2012
Loyal Dem wrote:
Passing the GO bond will NOT increase your existing taxes, grocery bills, rent, insurance,etc. Where on earth are you getting your information? This is an extension of an existing bond. You won't even feel it.
The GRT, on the other hand, will be felt if you shop outside the boundaries of the municipality - anywhere in the county. The tax will NOT, however, even with the increase, be as high as the current tax within the Alamogordo city limits.
The GO Bond is to repair infrastructure and help the libraries. Period. That means it is used to fix buildings and roofs and buy books. It will not be used for anything to do with 'golden parachutes', lining people's pockets.... Where do you folks get your information??? NMSU-A has beautiful buildings that have to be maintained. It is less expensive to maintain a building than to build a new one.
Folks, please do your homework. NMSU-A has lower enrollment because the graduating classes of the high school is going down. Fewer and fewer students can afford college/afford to pay their school loans. And if Romney gets elected, unless your daddy has money for you to borrow, which is Romney's solution to funding your college tuition - then things will only get more critical. Vote YES for the GO Bonds and the GRT. Do the smart and right thing.
Looks like it's time to give us back a little of our money. Instead of spending what was there let's give it back to the tax payer in their check and let them spend it as they see fit!
Ryannochio

Alamogordo, NM

#18 Oct 14, 2012
Vote YES.
NOMOREYEARS

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Oct 14, 2012
VOTE NO ON THIS BOND ISSUE

Why allow these fools to get their hands on
your hard earned money to hire fools like

Locksley (1.2 million dollar buyout after the
clown should have been fired) with is first
sexual harrassment claim; Mumme with his performance and another buyout; Fat Boston who
is a absolute loser, Dwayne 1-11 season Walker
next buyout coming; and golden parachute
Couture) who by the way will have another soon
to be departure of Huerta with her claims for
a parachute.

JUST VOTE NO - no need to increasee your property
taxes or any other taxes - they want money pass it
along in increased tuition.
minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#20 Oct 14, 2012
Loyal Dem,

Talk to me about the return on investment. I am not seeing it. New books? What's wrong with the old books? Have the laws of physics changed lately? Are the buildings falling down? What's the scoop? How many of these kids that you are educating stay in New Mexico? If you can't throw up a large number, then there is very little return. New Mexico universities educate people for other states. Yup, right out of college I went to arizona. Seems that NM didn't have jobs. All of my friend went to Michigan. Maybe the state needs to ask the other states to pitch in for the books.

Honestly, I had better teachers in grade school. The professors at least at NMSU (not all of them) don't care about the kids learning. If you are smart, you go off and learn on your own. The schools have crazy high cheating rates. I don't see that adding more money will change this.

Return on investment. That is how all business decisions should be made. If you cannot prove an ROI, then you don't need the cash. Also, it's one thing to collect money saying it is for books, then suddenly you are transferring funds to the football team or to the departing president.

People, be smart. Vote no on any and all additional contributions to these schools until they cut out all the stupidity. Hiring their friends and relatives, giving outrageous departing gifts to those being fired, massived cheating (investigators should be all over this), and many many more things. For crying out loud, the professors are so lazy that they have the same tests each semester or they alternate on semesters. The network of kids has all of these tests. They don't even have to go to class. Just study the old tests. Then we put out kids that don't know a thing.

Not bitter and not angry. Public education must be fixed from grade school to the top. Why are you so willing to simply keep adding and taking?

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