DREAM Act aka AMNESTY
amnesty

Algodones, NM

#22 Dec 9, 2010
Tony M wrote:
This type of behavior by our government makes me ill. They act as if taxpaying, law-biding American citizens and our children are nothing more than lazy, stupid, undeserving slobs. I am tired of hearing about the poor illegals that are hardworking people looking for a better life. What about our children and what about us. It is times like this I am disgusted and ashamed of my country.
I have a daughter that graduated this past year validictorian at the New Mexico School for the Deaf. She was also an All-American in basketball and track. Her dream was to go to Rochester Institute of Technology to pursue a degree in engineering and photography and to play basketball. She recieved funding for tuition and books at a cost of $13,000. It was not enough she still needed $12,000 per. yr. for room and meals. The school tried to get her to take out student loans to pay for this. But, to me this is a no no since, I am still paying student loans for my degrees.
My daughter finished the quarter and has to return home and find a less expensive school to attend. She did make the Deans list w/ a 3.6 GPA. If she were an illegal she could have gotten in-state tuition. Which would have helped defer the cost of room and meals. Anyway, her dream of going to the school of her dreams is gone. But, does Congress care. Shit No. I'm sure plenty of American families can share this experience.
Enough is Enough. Our people and our children have to come first. We cannot allow the Dreams of those who pay taxes, follow the law, and work hard to be shattered. This has truly hurt our family because we feel completely helpless.
Sad story,but realize that is not sunday every day just for the americans,I'm mexican puertorican born in america I do pay taxes,follow the law and work as hard as you do and I still get discriminated,so it doesn't matter if we are legal or illegal you people always crying and complaining about something.Quit your crying and don't drown in a glass of water
Tony M

Huntsville, AL

#23 Dec 10, 2010
amnesty wrote:
<quoted text>Sad story,but realize that is not sunday every day just for the americans,I'm mexican puertorican born in america I do pay taxes,follow the law and work as hard as you do and I still get discriminated,so it doesn't matter if we are legal or illegal you people always crying and complaining about something.Quit your crying and don't drown in a glass of water
Who is you people? Talk about crying and complaining. All minorities do is make excuses and use their ethnicity or race as an excuse for their shortcomings. The difference between myself and people like you is. Instead, of being a Mexican and Puerto Rican born in America. I am an American of Brazilian, Italian and Albanian descent. My grandparents, parents, aunts, uncles, all 9 siblings, now my children are just Americans, plain and simple. Something that actually has no value in this country anymore. In fact, I have informed my children they are Native Americans since they were born in this country to U.S. citizens that were born here. We have never and will never use our minority status to get anything. If we don't get it as just plain Americans we don't want it. Unlike many people of certain ethnic groups. We refuse to play the race game for the government to gain control of our souls.
The so-called discrimination you feel is maybe just a plain ole dislike for you personally. So you have a nice day and try not to drown in your tears.
You cannot

Santa Fe, NM

#24 Dec 10, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
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Uuuummmm an illegal immigrant doesnt pay taxes. As they have no ssn to paid said taxes.
be that dumb - maybe you are?
El Padrote

United States

#25 Dec 10, 2010
The DREAM Act is designed to put the children of illegal immigrants on a path to US citizenship, it is not an automatic amnesty program. It has tough requirements of having to be of good moral character, finished high school, no criminal record, at least 2 yrs of military service or 2 yrs of college (at his/her own expense).

It may also greatly bolster the enlistment crisis that the US military is having as most young americans are opting not to enlist.

Interestingly enough, had these requirements been in place, most, if not all of your European ancestors would not have been allowed to immigrate here.
Willie

Los Angeles, CA

#26 Dec 10, 2010
How many of these students will soon be popping out more children on our dime?
What a

Alamogordo, NM

#27 Dec 10, 2010
You cannot wrote:
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be that dumb - maybe you are?
joker!

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#28 Dec 10, 2010
You cannot wrote:
<quoted text>
be that dumb - maybe you are?
Again illegals CANT pay taxes as they have no SSN. Whats so hard to understand about that?

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#29 Dec 10, 2010
El Padrote wrote:
The DREAM Act is designed to put the children of illegal immigrants on a path to US citizenship, it is not an automatic amnesty program. It has tough requirements of having to be of good moral character, finished high school, no criminal record, at least 2 yrs of military service or 2 yrs of college (at his/her own expense).
It may also greatly bolster the enlistment crisis that the US military is having as most young americans are opting not to enlist.
Interestingly enough, had these requirements been in place, most, if not all of your European ancestors would not have been allowed to immigrate here.
Newsflash the child is ILLEGAL too. No one is claiming its automatic. It wrong either way. And btw. Being of good moral character, finsihing HS, no criminal record, 2 years of military service, or 2 years of college it NOT tough. Its rather EASY! ANd it NOT at his/her own expense. High School is free, even more free for an illegal as their parents dont pay taxes, they get all kinds of grants and scholarships to go to college. Joining the military is FREE...so where is the cost?

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#30 Dec 10, 2010
Willie wrote:
How many of these students will soon be popping out more children on our dime?
Just as many as the generatons before them have. If not more as they know the Amercan government will give them more as their families grow!
Geezer

Las Cruces, NM

#31 Dec 10, 2010
Screw them-let them dream about their homeland they fled to come here illegally. Kill them before they multiply!! The only good illegal is a dead one.

“Eat me. I'm a Danish.”

Since: Dec 10

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#32 Dec 10, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
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Again illegals CANT pay taxes as they have no SSN. Whats so hard to understand about that?
Ever heard of witholdings? I guess you dont realize that taxes are taken out of your pay check when you get paid. So in actuality most illegals pay more than their share of taxes. Employers definitely take the witholdings out of the checks.

You can definitely argue the point that they are here illegally and that our government has falen short on enforcement. You can show many good reasons why illegals should be deported and kept from entering. But the fact remains that the illegal alien is a NET GAIN for our economy. Not without risks and issues, but definitely an economic positive whether the partisans and nativists can admit it or not.

This reminds me of the drivers license issue. People gripe becasue illegals arent insured, but when they are allowed licenses then people gripe about that. We should DEMAND they all carry ID! It is expected from all of us!

The problem is that they are here in the first place. Not that they "pay no taxes" (which is a lie) or "Can vote with a driver's license" (which is another lie), or "get more benefits than a US citizen" (another lie), or "get free tuition" (another lie).

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#33 Dec 10, 2010
Sol Rebl wrote:
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Ever heard of witholdings? I guess you dont realize that taxes are taken out of your pay check when you get paid. So in actuality most illegals pay more than their share of taxes. Employers definitely take the witholdings out of the checks.
You can definitely argue the point that they are here illegally and that our government has falen short on enforcement. You can show many good reasons why illegals should be deported and kept from entering. But the fact remains that the illegal alien is a NET GAIN for our economy. Not without risks and issues, but definitely an economic positive whether the partisans and nativists can admit it or not.
This reminds me of the drivers license issue. People gripe becasue illegals arent insured, but when they are allowed licenses then people gripe about that. We should DEMAND they all carry ID! It is expected from all of us!
The problem is that they are here in the first place. Not that they "pay no taxes" (which is a lie) or "Can vote with a driver's license" (which is another lie), or "get more benefits than a US citizen" (another lie), or "get free tuition" (another lie).
Bottm line.....most illegals get paid under the table for "day work" That the group I was talking about. Now if they have a "legit" job they got it under an assumed identity (one they have stolen) yet another crime. If an employer knowingliy hires an illegal they should be IMMEDIATELY stripped of their business license! If we stop creating jobs for this illegal trash maybe that will help keep them away!
I never said they get free tuition, they do for a fact qualify for certian scholarships and grants. I posted earlier on this thread or another one about a young lady that was illegal that had recently grauated from college, she basically admitted she went to college for next to nothing out of her pocket because of scholarships and grants. THe sad part is she took money away from an American citizen!
Just Tired

Carlsbad, NM

#34 Dec 10, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
I am 100% against the Dream Act! It doesnt matter that it not their fault they are over here. People can go to prison for "not their fault" but are still guilty of the crime.
These illegals have recieved a first rate education for FREE, many have gone to college for FREE, now they want us to give them more. They have yet to pay a single cent in taxes, yet they line up with their hands out, while they protest (something they have NO right to do)! I wish ICE would start rounding them up as they admit they are here illegally. Deport them. I do not care if they have bben here for basically their whole life and that America is all they know. They are criminals and need to be sent packing!
Not give them, they've earned it. Get over it.
Border Native-American

Florissant, CO

#35 Dec 10, 2010
Just Tired wrote:
<quoted text> Not give them, they've earned it. Get over it.
No, they haven't. They need to go to the end of the line and wait just like all the others who have done it right.
another

Santa Fe, NM

#37 Dec 10, 2010
Geezer wrote:
Screw them-let them dream about their homeland they fled to come here illegally. Kill them before they multiply!! The only good illegal is a dead one.
insane poster.
Just Tired

Carlsbad, NM

#38 Dec 10, 2010
Border Native-American wrote:
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No, they haven't. They need to go to the end of the line and wait just like all the others who have done it right.
Your useless. I bet you don't work and just sit in front of the TV or the Computer and fill your useless brain with racist crap. Everyone has a right to be in the land of the free. What the government needs to do is not give any criminals the right to be here. Not even people that were born in the US that break the law. Everyone should be treated fairly and equally.
Just Tired

Carlsbad, NM

#39 Dec 10, 2010
Tony M wrote:
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Who is you people? Talk about crying and complaining. All minorities do is make excuses and use their ethnicity or race as an excuse for their shortcomings. The difference between myself and people like you is. Instead, of being a Mexican and Puerto Rican born in America. I am an American of Brazilian, Italian and Albanian descent. My grandparents, parents, aunts, uncles, all 9 siblings, now my children are just Americans, plain and simple. Something that actually has no value in this country anymore. In fact, I have informed my children they are Native Americans since they were born in this country to U.S. citizens that were born here. We have never and will never use our minority status to get anything. If we don't get it as just plain Americans we don't want it. Unlike many people of certain ethnic groups. We refuse to play the race game for the government to gain control of our souls.
The so-called discrimination you feel is maybe just a plain ole dislike for you personally. So you have a nice day and try not to drown in your tears.
So what your saying that your Brazilian, Italian and Albanian people had no right to be here that you are against them being here. As you said you were born here and they weren't. For you to be born here at least your mother was here illegaly.
Just Tired

Carlsbad, NM

#40 Dec 10, 2010
Geezer wrote:
Screw them-let them dream about their homeland they fled to come here illegally. Kill them before they multiply!! The only good illegal is a dead one.
No one deserves to be killed you are not God. I don't even think you even believe in God. What you need is for someone to cut your tongue out and feed it to your dog. How could a human even wish death on another human being? You are sick in the head. Get help.
Just Tired

Carlsbad, NM

#41 Dec 10, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
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They were interviewing an illegal the other night on the news. She told the reporter she graduated with honors.(A free education as her parents never paid a dime in taxes) She went on to say she recieved grants and scholarships that payed for her college.(another words she STOLE the oppertunity for an American citizen to go to college that didnt have the money by STEALING grants and scholarships that could ahve gone to the American) Now she is whining because she afaird of deportation. She has yet to give back, yet to pay taxes, yet she want citizenship handed to her on a golden platter. I am with you Americans should come first. Illegals should NOT even be allowed in our public schools, as they slow down the learning of others because they dont understand english and theacher must take time away from American students to help the illegal!
It looks like you might be sore because they never offered you a scholarship. Look at how many mistakes you made on this paragraph that probably took you an hour to write. I counted 5 and I just stopped. It's not worth my time. Oh and it's teacher not "Theacher". LMAO.
So Tell Me

United States

#43 Dec 11, 2010
Where do the illegals plan on going after they've turned the US into another Mexico?

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