Ft Hood Attack

[Old Glory]

The horror of Ft. Hood is well publicised (sp). We all had a lump in our throats as we watched it unfold.
What do you feel should be done with Hassan? Do you think this was a terrorist attack or a man who just lost it?
Sound off!

[Deming-ite]

Just my thoughts, but I think he just lost it. From what I read and heard, he was about to be deployed, I think for the 1st time, and couldn't handle that. Of course it all depends what channel/news you were listening too, many varied with the stories about the incident.

If you can't handle certain situations, then I say just shoot yourself if you must. Why take all these other people down with you ? Some reports said he was called a "camel jock", which if I was him,would find offensive and hurtful. Maybe no one will ever know what triggered all of this, perhaps it may come out later if he speaks up, but he should be punished to the fullest extent the law allows, whether he lost it or not.

I'm not making excuses for him, he should receive the stiffest penalties for his act, but unless you're inside his head, we don't know for sure what was going on, maybe we never will.

I had a lump in my throat as I watched all this unfold because I have family on that base. Lucky for me they were home safe and sound when I phoned to check on them. Not so lucky were the people caught in the line of fire and my heart goes out to the families left behind, but glad I wasn't one of them.

I maybe opening a can of worms with this statement, but I see this war like I did the war with Vietnam, getting to be a useless battle, almost a no win situation. I think for every one we kill over there, 100's, maybe 1,000's are waiting their turn for 5 min. of fame and glory in the name of Allah, and to die for their cause. To us we may feel they have a weird way of thinking, to them it's an honor, and there's so many of them this is going to go on and on and on.

I always felt we should retaliate for the 9/11 act, but it's almost getting to be a lost cause, seeing no end to this, and enough is enough. With the problems we have in this country, and on our borders, I'm beginning to think we need our military back on our soil to protect us right here. I'm sure plenty of you may disagree, and it's only lately that I've started feeling this way, well before this Ft. Hood incident.

I think what also concerns me is "copy cat" incidents now, let's hope no one else goes off the deep end.

[Old Glory]

I see where you are coming from. I want to believe that Hassan just lost it, but I will hold my judgement.

[ShrubFan18]

Old Glory wrote:

I see where you are coming from. I want to believe that Hassan just lost it, but I will hold my judgement.

I am on the same page as you are on this one. I hope he lost it. not planned it

[Deming-ite]

I'm not sure if you agree on most things I said, but it seems that some of us may think he just lost it. If he didn't, then I think we're in for a lot of trouble since he's not the only one with his ethnic background in this country. I just hope the truth comes out and very soon. It's not looking too good the way this country's going. If you think illegals from other countries are a problem, coming here just for a better life for the most part, it makes one wonder how many people from the Middle East are here for a different reason, although I'm sure not all have bad things on their minds, but the situation may be getting more tense as time goes on. Like I said, I just hope no "copy cat" situations arise.

Thank you for not biting my head off for my other thoughts. I really don't mean to come off sounding un-patriotic, it's just my own thoughts and feelings lately.

[cactus jim]

not all arabs and muslims are terrorists but it seems like all terrorists are muslims.if it looks like a skunk,acts like a skunk,and smells like a skunk most likely it is a skunk.

[NM Desert Rat]

I don't think it was a terrorist attack. From what I have been reading this guy has been having problems for a while. I believe he just lost it.

[Skuttlebutt]

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

The guy was a terrorist and this happened under Predsidunce Odumbo's watch. NICE JOB BARRY!!!!

[BarbMoore]

It has been reported that he stated he was a Muslim first; American second. He did not want to go to Iraq and kill other Muslims. He yelled ‘Allahu Akbar’. It was a planned attacked because he had 2 guns.

[RepublicanLies]

The biggest terrorists in the world are white men in heavily decorated military formal wear. These men, the joint chiefs of staff, have plotted terrorist attacks against their own country.(Operation Northwoods: A declassified document that proves this false-flag attack conspiracy)

On September 11, 2001, some would say this country was attacked by its own military apparatus. Many questions pervade this topic. Example: why was the man who wired Atta, the lead attacker, eating breakfast with White House officials on the morning of September 11, 2001? The 9/11 commission wilfully neglected this fact; along with the entire WTC 7 collapse.

You think you know what a terrorist looks like? Wow, you ARE scientific aren't you. You are a reader I bet.

Before one of you geniuses says the term "conspiracy theory", please know there are no theories involved here. These are documented facts.

Your country is gone because its citizens are no longer able to think for themselves. It's a four letter word called "Doom". Enjoy.

[RepublicanLies]

...who wired Atta, the lead attacker $100,000,...

[Old Glory]

Deming-ite wrote:

I'm not sure if you agree on most things I said, but it seems that some of us may think he just lost it. If he didn't, then I think we're in for a lot of trouble since he's not the only one with his ethnic background in this country. I just hope the truth comes out and very soon. It's not looking too good the way this country's going. If you think illegals from other countries are a problem, coming here just for a better life for the most part, it makes one wonder how many people from the Middle East are here for a different reason, although I'm sure not all have bad things on their minds, but the situation may be getting more tense as time goes on. Like I said, I just hope no "copy cat" situations arise.
Thank you for not biting my head off for my other thoughts. I really don't mean to come off sounding un-patriotic, it's just my own thoughts and feelings lately.

Why bite your head off? I asked for opinions. I also dont like the way this country is going. Seems poloticians dont give a rip about the nose dive America is in.
I do believe there will be a lot of back lash in Muslim communities by some. Just like there was after 9-11. It is still hard for me to see one and not "stare" I know it wasnt them who did it, but cant help but to think what are they planning on doing.

[RepublicanLies]

People who today call themselves "Christians" are the most violent, murderous, and delusional people on Earth. They have comitted genocide on three continents, and are the only people to ever use an atomic weapon against another.

In the name of God, Security, Oil, and Money they have sewn soils around the world with the blood of their brothers because they are "God's chosen people". What God could this be? Perhaps you worship Jesus of Nazareth, and play make believe on Sunday, but actually serve (to use your own mythology) thy true master: Satan?

Yeah, according to you Jesus would pick up an M16, yell Hoooraah, and lead the attack in your terroristic war on terror.

What you give is what you get.

[Deming-ite]

Here's something I heard recently concerning this Ft.Hood incident. The FBI was told NOT to investigate and/or look at this as an act of terrorism. The only one that can order the FBI to do this would be Obama or Atty.Gen. Holder. Can anyone shine some light on this ?

[Old Glory]

RepublicanLies wrote:

People who today call themselves "Christians" are the most violent, murderous, and delusional people on Earth. They have comitted genocide on three continents, and are the only people to ever use an atomic weapon against another.
In the name of God, Security, Oil, and Money they have sewn soils around the world with the blood of their brothers because they are "God's chosen people". What God could this be? Perhaps you worship Jesus of Nazareth, and play make believe on Sunday, but actually serve (to use your own mythology) thy true master: Satan?
Yeah, according to you Jesus would pick up an M16, yell Hoooraah, and lead the attack in your terroristic war on terror.
What you give is what you get.

Go read the bible on how God told the Iseralites to treat the peoples they conquered. He wanted ALL dead! Including women and children, and animals! They even got in trouble when they didnt anilalate.

[ruidosogal]

Skuttlebutt wrote:

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
The guy was a terrorist and this happened under Predsidunce Odumbo's watch. NICE JOB BARRY!!!!

You're not seriously blaming our President for another person's behavior are you???? This is BEYOND a great stretch!

[PlacitasRoy]

Deming-ite wrote:

Here's something I heard recently concerning this Ft.Hood incident. The FBI was told NOT to investigate and/or look at this as an act of terrorism. The only one that can order the FBI to do this would be Obama or Atty.Gen. Holder. Can anyone shine some light on this ?

Yeah - You gotta stop listening to the Reicht-wing hate radio and the Fox Falsifiers. they are racists, haters, bigots, and LIARS.

[Deming-ite]

I've been listening to different channels/news over the last couple of days, and it's sort of hard to figure out who's telling the truth, or what the truth is. I said before that I thought Husan had just lost it, now I'm not sure.

I'm hearing who Husan made contact with over a period of time, who he knows, well in advance of this Ft. Hood incident, and I'm trying to make sense of some of this news. Red flags went up some time ago, and people that counted just didn't seem to pay attention. This sounds so familiar, just like it was when Al Gore questioned Oliver North,who was trying to tell us about Bin Laden, and not many, if any, paid attention to his warnings/red flags. Seems this has happened more than once or twice where the Middle East was concerned. Again, we seemed to have missed some "red flags" where Husan is concerned, so now I'm re-thinking my position on whether he just lost it or not.

[PlacitasRoy]

It is sickenng the redneck Okie Raputre-right bible thumppin' Senator is not 'suppoting the trops. That SOB is causing more trauma for the vets than the crazy guy down at Ft. Hood. You aren't going to hear about this sorry bastard on hate radio or from the Fox freaks.

Senators call on Coburn to lift his hold on veterans benefits bill.
"Earlier this month, it was revealed that Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) has placed a hold on a major veterans benefits bill.... Democratic Senators are calling on Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) to lift his hold on a veterans’ health bill that Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) hopes to clear before the chamber adjourns this week for a three-day recess.

Sens. Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Jon Tester (D-Mont.) and Mark Begich (D-Alaska) will hold a press conference Monday to rally support for the measure.[...]

In a floor statement Friday, Begich called on Coburn to lift his hold. Other Democratic Senators made similar appeals, but Begich took the rare step of naming Coburn on the Senate floor.

“I am disappointed that my Senate colleague does not feel this same sense of duty and responsibility to our nation’s heroes, who have sacrificed so much for our very right to stand in this body and debate this matter,” Begich said.“There is no good reason or rationale for a hold to be placed on this legislation and I call on my colleague to remove his hold.” Democratic Senators are calling on Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) to lift his hold on a veterans’ health bill that Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) hopes to clear before the chamber adjourns this week for a three-day recess.

Sens. Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Jon Tester (D-Mont.) and Mark Begich (D-Alaska) will hold a press conference Monday to rally support for the measure.[...]

In a floor statement Friday, Begich called on Coburn to lift his hold. Other Democratic Senators made similar appeals, but Begich took the rare step of naming Coburn on the Senate floor.

“I am disappointed that my Senate colleague does not feel this same sense of duty and responsibility to our nation’s heroes, who have sacrificed so much for our very right to stand in this body and debate this matter,” Begich said.“There is no good reason or rationale for a hold to be placed on this legislation and I call on my colleague to remove his hold.”

Democratic Senators are calling on Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) to lift his hold on a veterans’ health bill that Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) hopes to clear before the chamber adjourns this week for a three-day recess.

Sens. Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Jon Tester (D-Mont.) and Mark Begich (D-Alaska) will hold a press conference Monday to rally support for the measure.[...]

In a floor statement Friday, Begich called on Coburn to lift his hold. Other Democratic Senators made similar appeals, but Begich took the rare step of naming Coburn on the Senate floor.

“I am disappointed that my Senate colleague does not feel this same sense of duty and responsibility to our nation’s heroes, who have sacrificed so much for our very right to stand in this body and debate this matter,” Begich said.“There is no good reason or rationale for a hold to be placed on this legislation and I call on my colleague to remove his hold.” http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/09/coburn-ho...

[Old Glory]

Deming-ite wrote:

I've been listening to different channels/news over the last couple of days, and it's sort of hard to figure out who's telling the truth, or what the truth is. I said before that I thought Husan had just lost it, now I'm not sure.
I'm hearing who Husan made contact with over a period of time, who he knows, well in advance of this Ft. Hood incident, and I'm trying to make sense of some of this news. Red flags went up some time ago, and people that counted just didn't seem to pay attention. This sounds so familiar, just like it was when Al Gore questioned Oliver North,who was trying to tell us about Bin Laden, and not many, if any, paid attention to his warnings/red flags. Seems this has happened more than once or twice where the Middle East was concerned. Again, we seemed to have missed some "red flags" where Husan is concerned, so now I'm re-thinking my position on whether he just lost it or not.

I have heard on both CNN and Fox that Hassan has been on the "radar" for approximately 6 months for "terrorist" e-mails he had recieved and sent.The red flags were there, who knows why action wasnt taken. We the people will probably never know the truth about it. Some parts leaked will be truth some will be to lead away for certian truths. Whats sad is the more they try to lead away the more guilty things will look. Like I have mentioned I hope something snapped and he just lost it, but deep down I am beginning to feel that it was a planned attack. Here are a few reasons.
One he gave away many of his personal belongings. Yes he was about to deploy but why would you get rid of your bed and other personal item needed for the feww weeks before you left and the morning the attack happens.
Second the "red flags" if they were there like most reports say. Why was nothing done? At the very least questioning Hassan.
Third. The way it went down, Reports say he yelled that phrase, it excapes me now, and starting shooting. Witnessess say he was very calm and collected, methodical, showing little emotion. I may be wrong but working with mentally insane criminals, there is not much methodical and collected about them. Even there crimes were very erratic, like they didnt have any idea what they were doing.
Thats how I am looking at it. Yes I do look at it with a grain of salt, as none of us are sure just what to hold as truth or toss aside as a smoke screen.