Bill outlawing corporal punishment in NM public schools goes to governor

Full story: Carlsbad Current-Argus

Gov. Susana Martinez now must decide whether public schools should be able to paddle students.

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Judi Siegfried

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I cannot believe that corporal punishment is still an option anywhere, nor that school districts can make that decision. As a social worker for more than 25 years, I am aware of research showing that violence promotes violence, that children live what they learn. This is medieaval, and it is hard to know that corporal punishment is endorsed anywhere in this state
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Judi Siegfried wrote:
I cannot believe that corporal punishment is still an option anywhere, nor that school districts can make that decision. As a social worker for more than 25 years, I am aware of research showing that violence promotes violence, that children live what they learn. This is medieaval, and it is hard to know that corporal punishment is endorsed anywhere in this state
Many of us in New Mexico agree with you and are embarrassed by this. I apologize for this. We outlawed the death penalty last year. Maybe we can join the 21st Century on beating of children soon.(We have a few other issues to address that are equally embarrassing as well.)

Like the death penalty on a grander scale, corporal punishment teaches that violence is a solution to your problem. Those you take issue with can be dealt with by violence. Wrong.
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Judi Siegfried wrote:
I cannot believe that corporal punishment is still an option anywhere, nor that school districts can make that decision. As a social worker for more than 25 years, I am aware of research showing that violence promotes violence, that children live what they learn. This is medieaval, and it is hard to know that corporal punishment is endorsed anywhere in this state
Bull-SH-IT! You are probably a big proponent of the Prisons for Profit system. Letting kids run wild ensures a large enrollment in the prisons being built right now.

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Those of wiser mind comprehend the inherent value of the corporal punishment option.

It isn't the punishment.

It's the "possibility" of the punishment.

Throughout all life-forms known to man, the primary motivators for behavior can be narrowed down to two:

1. Desire for what feels good
2. Fear of what feels bad.

When you eliminate one, you have chosen to cut your chances for success in half.

The homogenization of hundreds of subcultures within this country has created its own nasty dynamic. Not everyone wants to be fairly-treated, and thousands of children are emotional misfits in the environment of the schools we have fashioned.

And for the record, not all physical punishment is "violent."
Robert Fathman

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This is great news for the parents and grandparents in New Mexico. I hope Governor Martinez signs the bill. She campaigned on a pledge to fight child abuse, and certainly we do not want our children having this model of settling differences by hitting others with boards. In 30 stares and 110 countries, teachers educate without hitting, and kids in those schools are less likely to drop out, have better test scores, and commit fewer acts of school vandalism. The days of corporal punishment should have ended long ago.
Julie Worley

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Why is hitting a child with a wooden board within the walls of a tax-payer funded school acceptable when that very same act, when done in public (even to an animal), is assault and results in arrest and imprisonment?

I am a Republican Voter who is unable to protect my 3 children, who we do not hit, from hearing classmates being hit by school employees with wooden boards just outside class as a knee-jerk reaction to minor infractions like not turning in homework, chewing gum, being late, horsing around, etc. without parental consent or notification, not required by Tennessee State Law! Our local school district board members ignored our demand to Prohibit Physical Pain as Punishment of Children in our local schools. Several children are injured due to school paddling and since the laws allow it, criminal/civil actions are dropped, half of the 20 remaining "School Paddling States" have "Teacher Immunity Laws" specifically to protect school employees from criminal/civil action.

Get the Facts, search "A Violent Education". Add your voice to End School Paddling in U.S. Schools as Unlimited Justice dot com.

Please urge Governor Martinez to sign the legislation to Abolish Corporal/Physical Pain as Punishment/Paddling of Children in New Mexico Schools.

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I grew up with catholic nuns and got my share of ruler on hands, paddle and 10 rosaries..

I feared those nuns, it would never crossed my mind to talk back to them EVER. Now, late in life my classmates and I are going to one after the other funeral of our feared nuns. And we all agree.

We were a bunch of hoodlums and I don't think we would have turned out the way we did if we didn't have those sisters.

I don't think we should have corporal punishment in school, however there should be a little fear in the kids towards the teacher, not the other way around.

Today's teacher fear the kids. This isn't going to end well

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

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Spare the rod and spoil the child. It still holds true today.

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Then would someone please tell me what the good Lord made 2x4s for? Hurry, I gotta get back to my Porter Wagoner show.
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Corporal punishment works. It is not extreme or violent as the above folks think, and is 99% of the time, the last resort.
Most parents don't discipline their children, teach respect, don't feed them at home and expect the school to do it all.
Schools should kick their undisciplined rears out of school at the first offense and let the parents deal with it during school time instead of watching TV. Every time a student disrupts my child's education, they should be suspended if corporal punishment is not allowed.
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Wake UP World!!! The reason our school systems are in trouble is because there hasn't been any type of decent punishment for "our poor little children." When a young adult is reaching puberty, their "stupid" hormone works more than anything. If a child disrupts a class, they need to go to detention immediately. Detention should be in each school with profound humiliation attached to the word. Maybe that might help.

If all of those that are against corporal punishment spent just 1 day in a junior or high school they would change their mind.
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Deputy276 wrote:
Spare the rod and spoil the child. It still holds true today.
thing there are dumb sayings to guide the weak minded. Otherwise you bone heads would be confused about what to use to shine your shoes.
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good wrote:
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thing there are dumb sayings to guide the weak minded. Otherwise you bone heads would be confused about what to use to shine your shoes.
Thats right, you must be the one in the class that day who didn't pay attention when the teacher was trying to teach a class on proper english, and composition.
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Deputy276 wrote:
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time you have prove yourself to be a liar. Keep your sick fantasies to yourself.
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Patio wrote:
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Thats right, you must be the one in the class that day who didn't pay attention when the teacher was trying to teach a class on proper english, and composition.
"That's right" - not "Thats right" - if you knew what you were talking about.
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All Catholic schools in the U.S. have now prohibited any use of corporal punishment. The Archbishop of New Orleans just last month issued a compelling statement about how hitting children in school was an unfortunate past relic, and is now seen as contradictory to church teachings and not at all in keeping with Christ's attitude toward children.
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Hit them they need it, they don't get it at home where they should. The class rooms are a mess and the teachers don't care. Just the pay check.
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It would be wrote:
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"That's right" - not "Thats right" - if you knew what you were talking about.
That is a incomplete, improper sentence ending in a Preposition.
Tsk-Tsk
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professor wrote:
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That is a incomplete, improper sentence ending in a Preposition.
Tsk-Tsk
should not be in caps.
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Preposition wrote:
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should not be in caps.
should = Should

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