Akela Apache Homlands Entertainment Center

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Local

Washington, DC

#1 Feb 17, 2011
Is this place ever going to open up? I think they need help from us Dona Ana and Luna County folks to write Govenor Susan Martinez. She is very well aware of the umemployment rate in both of these counties more so in Luna county since they have the highest umemployment rate in New Mexico. Richardson stopped the opening for his cronie friend Stan Fulton (owner of Sunland) and because Richardson was not going to immediately cut his cut in the casio profits. Richarson is now gone and both counties can benefit with the high number of personnel they will hire with great benefits, paid medical, dental, vacation, nice pay (better than what most local business' will pay their employees. The money these employees earn will be mostly be spent in both counties. People will be able to afford to buy nicer home and live a more decent/comfortable life style and the employment rate will go down. I feel if we the people of both counties do not get on the ball and do something to bring revenue to our cities/counties we will continue to go further into debt. The Federal subsitance to the states.counties is gone the country is going broke. So jobs need to be created in our couties to bring in the money to be spent here.. let so Luna & Dona Ana...
Just Saying

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Feb 18, 2011
They don't need a fancy entertainment center. Just give them a big shed with lots of booze. Instant entertainment for Indians.
Sarge

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Feb 18, 2011
Local wrote:
Is this place ever going to open up? I think they need help from us Dona Ana and Luna County folks to write Govenor Susan Martinez. She is very well aware of the umemployment rate in both of these counties more so in Luna county since they have the highest umemployment rate in New Mexico. Richardson stopped the opening for his cronie friend Stan Fulton (owner of Sunland) and because Richardson was not going to immediately cut his cut in the casio profits. Richarson is now gone and both counties can benefit with the high number of personnel they will hire with great benefits, paid medical, dental, vacation, nice pay (better than what most local business' will pay their employees. The money these employees earn will be mostly be spent in both counties. People will be able to afford to buy nicer home and live a more decent/comfortable life style and the employment rate will go down. I feel if we the people of both counties do not get on the ball and do something to bring revenue to our cities/counties we will continue to go further into debt. The Federal subsitance to the states.counties is gone the country is going broke. So jobs need to be created in our couties to bring in the money to be spent here.. let so Luna & Dona Ana...
Because their casino needs to be in Oklahoma where they live. That's according to a ruling issued by US Gaming Commission. Native Americans can't just buy a lot and proclaim it part of their reservation. We'd have gambling in every city.

Actually this casino will most probably suck up most patron's paychecks, savings, etc.. What benefits are there in that?
Fact or Fiction

United States

#4 Feb 18, 2011
Local wrote:
Is this place ever going to open up? I think they need help from us Dona Ana and Luna County folks to write Govenor Susan Martinez. She is very well aware of the umemployment rate in both of these counties more so in Luna county since they have the highest umemployment rate in New Mexico. Richardson stopped the opening for his cronie friend Stan Fulton (owner of Sunland) and because Richardson was not going to immediately cut his cut in the casio profits. Richarson is now gone and both counties can benefit with the high number of personnel they will hire with great benefits, paid medical, dental, vacation, nice pay (better than what most local business' will pay their employees. The money these employees earn will be mostly be spent in both counties. People will be able to afford to buy nicer home and live a more decent/comfortable life style and the employment rate will go down. I feel if we the people of both counties do not get on the ball and do something to bring revenue to our cities/counties we will continue to go further into debt. The Federal subsitance to the states.counties is gone the country is going broke. So jobs need to be created in our couties to bring in the money to be spent here.. let so Luna & Dona Ana...
Gov. Martinez is aware of this problem, but I'll bet with other issues that maybe more important I figure she'll eventually get around to Akela. Talked to the manager some time ago and with potential expansion later on it once they open it should employ a few hundred people, many full time with all the benefits I was told.
Valley Native

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Feb 18, 2011
If there is an Indian tribe that deserves a waver for relocation of a casino it's the Fort Sill Apaches.

The only reason they left the area was because they were loaded up in rail road box cars and shipped out to Florida.

This area is their home lands and they deserve the benefit provided to other Indian tribes. These are a proud people with a rich heritage to the area which goes far beyond any area culture that followed.

Here's the Wikipedia introduction.

“In 1886, Chiricahuas were taken as Prisoners of War by the U.S. federal government and their land was seized. The military forcibly removed 400 members of the tribe from the Fort Apache and San Carlos Reservations[2] to U.S. Army installations in Alabama and Florida.[3] In 1894, they were relocated to Indian Territory by a special provision passed by the US Congress. They were the last Indian tribe to be relocated into what is now Oklahoma.[3]
The Chiricahuas arrived at Fort Sill and were promised the lands surrounding the fort as theirs to settle; however, local non-Indians resisted Apache settlement, and the tribe was pressured to leave. Many wanted to return to their traditional lands in the southwest, and the Mescalero Apaches offered them land on their reservation. A third of the third stayed, demanding that the US fulfill its promise to give them the Fort Sill lands.[3] As a compromise, the government gave the remaining Chiricahuas unclaimed allotment land on the nearby Kiowa-Comanche-Apache Reservation.[3] in 1914, 84 individuals were released from prisoner status and granted allotment lands around Fletcher and Apache, Oklahoma.[3]
The Fort Sill Apaches struggled in the ensuing years in the economically depressed areas of southwestern Oklahoma. The tribe seized the opportunity afforded by Oklahoma Indian Welfare Act of 1936 and, with great difficulty and perseverance, organized as a federally recognized tribe in 1976.[3]”

As far as I'm concerned they should be allowed to return to their homelands. There is plenty of space out here so whats the problem.
Just Saying

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Feb 18, 2011
The Indian's homelands are NOT in the USA. They immigrated here from the Pacific Islands or the land bridge in Alaska. They have no more claim to these lands than anyone else. Time to stop Indian's dependency on the federal government and state governments. Time for Indians to actually BE Americans and not some bogus seperate entity within the country. NONE of the present day Indians were alive when the Indian Wars were taking place. If you give Indians freebies then the blacks and Chinese and every other ethnic group is gonna want freebies.
DEMINGNITE

United States

#7 Feb 18, 2011
Sarge wrote:
<quoted text>
Because their casino needs to be in Oklahoma where they live. That's according to a ruling issued by US Gaming Commission. Native Americans can't just buy a lot and proclaim it part of their reservation. We'd have gambling in every city.
Actually this casino will most probably suck up most patron's paychecks, savings, etc.. What benefits are there in that?
Sarge, sounds like you know what you are talking about, but for your information employees who work at casinos CAN NOT gamble in the casinos they work at, so lets try something else. Besides that yes they live in Ok but they did not go there by choice. Oh as far as Patrons pay checks being sucked up by casinos no one forces anyone to go to casinos, just like buying new cars, buy booze, smoking, drinking, taking drugs, living the life style you live, you make your choices as everyone else does. So what is your solution to boost the employment/pay in Luna County? Heck they wanted to put a Home Depot or Lowes in Deming but it never happened like a lot of other business's even small business's are disapproved. So once again Magic Man what is your Suggestions and Solutions? Did you know even though the was to be Casino did not open it donated several thousands of dollars to Luna County School district a few years back. Other then Wal-Mart what other business does or has done that? Point is Luna needs JOBS....
Sarge

Santa Fe, NM

#8 Feb 21, 2011
DEMINGNITE wrote:
<quoted text>
Sarge, sounds like you know what you are talking about, but for your information employees who work at casinos CAN NOT gamble in the casinos they work at, so lets try something else. Besides that yes they live in Ok but they did not go there by choice. Oh as far as Patrons pay checks being sucked up by casinos no one forces anyone to go to casinos, just like buying new cars, buy booze, smoking, drinking, taking drugs, living the life style you live, you make your choices as everyone else does. So what is your solution to boost the employment/pay in Luna County? Heck they wanted to put a Home Depot or Lowes in Deming but it never happened like a lot of other business's even small business's are disapproved. So once again Magic Man what is your Suggestions and Solutions? Did you know even though the was to be Casino did not open it donated several thousands of dollars to Luna County School district a few years back. Other then Wal-Mart what other business does or has done that? Point is Luna needs JOBS....
I didn't say anything about the employees. They would most probably come from the tribe too. My "magical" suggestion or solution is to keep it closed and open it in Oklahoma. I too was brought into this world not by choice. The people living in Luna County aren't forced to live there. They can move to where the jobs are...I did.

Any questions?

Oh by the way, it looks like the bribe (giving money to Luna County) didn't work.
LOCAL

United States

#9 Mar 18, 2011
Sarge wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say anything about the employees. They would most probably come from the tribe too. My "magical" suggestion or solution is to keep it closed and open it in Oklahoma. I too was brought into this world not by choice. The people living in Luna County aren't forced to live there. They can move to where the jobs are...I did.
Any questions?
Oh by the way, it looks like the bribe (giving money to Luna County) didn't work.
Sorry Sarge, it isnt over till the fat lady sings....dont you understand the tribe want to come back to their homeland? They didnt actually leave on their own, they were forced to leave or get killed. What would you and many others do if the government put you in the same position to leave your home (house and all) and tell you lets go or get killed and you have no choice where you want to go??? Stick that in your hat. Besides Luna county needs an employer who will pay better then Wal-mart or any other bushiness here. Why do people not want to work if they can collect more on unemployment and food stamps and get free medical. The jobs here do not pay enough for them to get medical or dental insurance nor do they have retirement plans...where the casino has all that...not everyone here is as fortunate as you and I.

Since: Mar 11

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#10 Mar 18, 2011
Just Saying wrote:
They don't need a fancy entertainment center. Just give them a big shed with lots of booze. Instant entertainment for Indians.
Aww, that was precious!

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#11 Mar 18, 2011
LOCAL wrote:
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Sorry Sarge, it isnt over till the fat lady sings....dont you understand the tribe want to come back to their homeland? They didnt actually leave on their own, they were forced to leave or get killed. What would you and many others do if the government put you in the same position to leave your home (house and all) and tell you lets go or get killed and you have no choice where you want to go??? Stick that in your hat. Besides Luna county needs an employer who will pay better then Wal-mart or any other bushiness here. Why do people not want to work if they can collect more on unemployment and food stamps and get free medical. The jobs here do not pay enough for them to get medical or dental insurance nor do they have retirement plans...where the casino has all that...not everyone here is as fortunate as you and I.
Newsflash, but local and state governments are ALREADY forcing people to leave the land they own unwillingly. It's called eminent domain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain

So no tears for the Indians. They get treated just like the rest of us.
Sra Pendeja y Chingon

Missoula, MT

#12 Mar 18, 2011
Deputy276 wrote:
<quoted text>
Newsflash, but local and state governments are ALREADY forcing people to leave the land they own unwillingly. It's called eminent domain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
So no tears for the Indians. They get treated just like the rest of us.
Go back to the truck stop and start giving tap dancing lessons again, guey. Go give your famous Johnson Rub to the truckers who swear by it relaxing as - a bargain at $.50 we hear.
Local

Washington, DC

#13 Mar 26, 2011
Sarge wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say anything about the employees. They would most probably come from the tribe too. My "magical" suggestion or solution is to keep it closed and open it in Oklahoma. I too was brought into this world not by choice. The people living in Luna County aren't forced to live there. They can move to where the jobs are...I did.
Any questions?
Oh by the way, it looks like the bribe (giving money to Luna County) didn't work.
Come on Man, get it together, first off yes there will be tribal natives working at the casino, however like most casinos as you know the majority working there are not american natives. What the heck bribe to Luna County are you talking about? LUNA COUNTY has no say if the casino can go up or not. I the National Indian Gaming Commission (NIGC) of New Mexico (who are federal) that say the yeah or ney. And whether they open a doughnut shop or taco stand or sandwich shop or burger joint in Deming then jobs will
be created...so it is favor of Deming/Luna county to open more business's LUNA COUNTY has the HIGHEST UMEMPLOYMENT rate in New Mexico... besides why should the residents or those who lived and were raised here all their lives have to leave if they do not want to, and hoping more business's open up to get a decent job. By the way stand by cuz the casino will probably open sooner then we think, but remember you dont have to patronize it as you are not forced to patronize any business's. I am for the people who want to work here in LUNA County or anywhere else as long as there are job opportunity for the people of this county..
Sra Pendeja y Chingon

Songkhla, Thailand

#14 Mar 26, 2011
Can someone translate my Topix name? I'm actually a gringo and have no idea what it means.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#15 Mar 26, 2011
If you’re a working schlub in Cleveland trying to run a numbers game with your co-workers, the Feds will throw your white arse in Prison.
If you’re a church offering a bingo-for-money game to raise money for kids going to camp. You’d be shut down and fined; if not jailed.
If your Great-Great-relatives were brown-skinned marauders who, not being able to stand a peaceful day in their miserable lives, just HAD to piss off every other Indian tribe around and torment Mexican and US settlers, you get to run a casino with impunity.

I guess that sounds fair.
carlos mendoza

Van Nuys, CA

#16 Apr 23, 2013
yes you have it right!!!
carlos mendoza

Van Nuys, CA

#17 Apr 23, 2013
yes you have it right

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