NM state troopers will no longer need college credits

Thousands of young soldiers are coming home from war and other dangerous duty, but until now almost none of them qualified to be New Mexico State Police officers. Full Story
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Master Debater

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Apr 15, 2011
All right meow.
Rob Dunlap

Rio Rancho, NM

#2 Apr 15, 2011
Well I feel this is a good move. There are many good future officers out there and a piece of paper means nothing other than you can commit yourself to something and complete a task. I have no college and I competed the corrections academy in santa fe with flying colors! Its just a mind set and how you were raised! I fully agree with this, and may think about joining the NMSP now!
Great

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Apr 15, 2011
"Thousands of young soldiers are coming home from war and other dangerous duty, but until now almost none of them qualified to be New Mexico State Police officers."

Great! First, being a soldier does NOT qualify one to be a police officer. In fact, a soldier is NOT the same as being a police officer. Second, why do Republicans like Susana Martinez think the solution to a lack of officers is NOT to raise salaries but to dumb down the State Police? Typical of the Sun-News to support such STUP IDITY.
Been there

Grand Junction, CO

#4 Apr 15, 2011
If' God forbid, you are ever stopped, for any reason by a NMSP the VERY first thing you should say is:

DON'T SHOOT!
East Mesa Resident

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Apr 15, 2011
I can understand hiring a veteran who was in military law enforcement as they have already gone through training and psychological evaluations/training. I do think that any veteran who is hired for the NMSP be required to complete at least 6 credit hours (half-time) of college each year they are on the force though.

Anymore college can be taken "online" at the student's leisure in most parts of the state. When I was attending college at NMSU, I had quite a few NMSP officers attending classes while in uniform as their commanding officers gave them the neccessary time off to attend classes during their normal working hours.
common sense

Las Cruces, NM

#6 Apr 15, 2011
Great wrote:
"Thousands of young soldiers are coming home from war and other dangerous duty, but until now almost none of them qualified to be New Mexico State Police officers."
Great! First, being a soldier does NOT qualify one to be a police officer. In fact, a soldier is NOT the same as being a police officer. Second, why do Republicans like Susana Martinez think the solution to a lack of officers is NOT to raise salaries but to dumb down the State Police? Typical of the Sun-News to support such STUP IDITY.
How nice of you to call our veterans dumb. Don't confuse education with intelligence.
common sense

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Apr 15, 2011
Great wrote:
"Thousands of young soldiers are coming home from war and other dangerous duty, but until now almost none of them qualified to be New Mexico State Police officers."
Great! First, being a soldier does NOT qualify one to be a police officer. In fact, a soldier is NOT the same as being a police officer. Second, why do Republicans like Susana Martinez think the solution to a lack of officers is NOT to raise salaries but to dumb down the State Police? Typical of the Sun-News to support such STUP IDITY.
Think of it this way. Probably 95% of our wonderfull elected leaders in Washington D.C. have at least a 4 year college degree. Look where that has got us.
wow

Rio Rancho, NM

#8 Apr 15, 2011
Been there wrote:
If' God forbid, you are ever stopped, for any reason by a NMSP the VERY first thing you should say is:
DON'T SHOOT!
You want to explain that idiotic statement you just made?
MrDeeds

Las Cruces, NM

#9 Apr 15, 2011
Now They will be as unqualified as the LCPD! GREAT!
disagree

Rio Rancho, NM

#10 Apr 15, 2011
Just for the record, we are State Police Officers.....not Troopers or Highway Patrol. I completely disagree with this change. What's next? A little bit of dirt on your background won't matter either as long as it's not "too violent". Maybe our recruiters should work a little bit harder. In today's economy, it should not be hard to find qualified applicants with college credits. I obtained a college education prior to applying. I know everyone else has too. I guess we are now going to have officers with the attitude, "Me policeman! Me have gun! You go jail now!" What a sad day!
race to the bottom

Las Cruces, NM

#11 Apr 15, 2011
Great if we cannot compete we just lower the standards!

“phooey on spellcheck”

Since: Nov 08

las cruces, nm

#12 Apr 15, 2011
race to the bottom? it seems we are winning that race easily.

“phooey on spellcheck”

Since: Nov 08

las cruces, nm

#14 Apr 15, 2011
disagree wrote:
Just for the record, we are State Police Officers.....not Troopers or Highway Patrol. I completely disagree with this change. What's next? A little bit of dirt on your background won't matter either as long as it's not "too violent". Maybe our recruiters should work a little bit harder. In today's economy, it should not be hard to find qualified applicants with college credits. I obtained a college education prior to applying. I know everyone else has too. I guess we are now going to have officers with the attitude, "Me policeman! Me have gun! You go jail now!" What a sad day!
i agree with your post except the last part. we already have police in all the local agencys with exactly that mentality/ attitude. this new change will only mean there are more of them.
Michael Morris

Tularosa, NM

#15 Apr 15, 2011
disagree wrote:
Just for the record, we are State Police Officers.....not Troopers or Highway Patrol. I completely disagree with this change. What's next? A little bit of dirt on your background won't matter either as long as it's not "too violent". Maybe our recruiters should work a little bit harder. In today's economy, it should not be hard to find qualified applicants with college credits. I obtained a college education prior to applying. I know everyone else has too. I guess we are now going to have officers with the attitude, "Me policeman! Me have gun! You go jail now!" What a sad day!
Actually the sad days are when, for instance, NMSP officer Matthew Carrejo, speeding down California St. in Socorro for, as his captain explained, "no official reason", slammed into a car killing several NMT students, was white washed and Carrejo promoted. This one, however, will probably produce more straight up killings of the intentional kind.

“phooey on spellcheck”

Since: Nov 08

las cruces, nm

#16 Apr 15, 2011
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually the sad days are when, for instance, NMSP officer Matthew Carrejo, speeding down California St. in Socorro for, as his captain explained, "no official reason", slammed into a car killing several NMT students, was white washed and Carrejo promoted. This one, however, will probably produce more straight up killings of the intentional kind.
please explain your last sentence?
Marquant

United States

#17 Apr 15, 2011
I was a cop for 20+ years, a US Marine and college educated. I worked around officers with and without degrees, even some who had never seen the inside of a college classroom. You know what? It didn't make a bit of difference. Most had it what it takes, some didn't, but a 4 year degree made no difference, and 60 hrs of credit surely did not. As far as the use of force vs. college education theory, it's all B.S. Individual maturity and the level of professionalism set by the department are what matters.
Get Real

Las Cruces, NM

#18 Apr 15, 2011
Our soldiers receive a lot of training that in many instances should qualify for college credit, in addition to the combat experience.

We are not fighting conventional wars where everyone is the enemy and it is shoot on sight. If it were like that the war would be over because all you have to do is shoot anything that moves.

We are fighting in areas where it is hard to distinguish friend from foe because they are commingled. Soldiers are trained to make split decisions every day because they the face a court marshal if they shoot civilians.

Between the combat experience, military training and police academy training, I think we will see great potential from our service men and women.
BadIdea

Las Cruces, NM

#19 Apr 15, 2011
While every other industry is pushing for MORE college, leave it to New Mexico to push for less. I am a Veteran and I pursued a college degree during my 6 year enlistment. I did not complete a degree to our OPTEMPO, but I did have well over 30 credits that were required! The military pushes VERY heavily for you to go to college. They are even requiring college now for certain promotions. The Army also has tuition assistance, to where you don't even pay while you're going to college and enlisted!(I'm not talking about the GI Bill either).

Anyway, if a veteran wanted to get a job with the State Police, they should have showed that by going to school.
Regular Guy

Modesto, CA

#21 Apr 15, 2011
I appreciate Vets but think any qualified citizen should have an equal sot at the job.

Since: Jan 09

Red Bank, NJ

#22 Apr 15, 2011
Michael Morris wrote:
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Actually the sad days are when, for instance, NMSP officer Matthew Carrejo, speeding down California St. in Socorro for, as his captain explained, "no official reason", slammed into a car killing several NMT students, was white washed and Carrejo promoted. This one, however, will probably produce more straight up killings of the intentional kind.
Or the even sadder days when Clyde Woods (AKA Killer Clyde) New Mexico State Parks officer in Elephant Butte murdered in cold blood Bruce Teschner who refused to pay a $14.00 camping fee.

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